webfact Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Donald Trump touring Alligator Alcatraz on July 1, 2025 | Picture courtesy of The White House via Wikipedia Two Italian nationals, Fernando Eduardo Artese, 63, and Gaetano Cateno Mirabella Costa, 45, are being held in the notorious ICE detention centre dubbed "Alligator Alcatraz" in Florida for immigration violations. Italy’s foreign ministry has acknowledged their detention but remains tight-lipped on specifics, citing privacy. The Italian government has yet to publicly address the situation or the conditions in the controversial facility. Italian opposition figure Laura Boldrini has called on Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni to intervene. The US Department of Homeland Security (DHS) confirmed the detentions, labelling both men as "criminal illegal aliens." Boldrini has criticised the current conditions, calling them unacceptable and seeking action from the Italian government to assist in their release. Artese's daughter, Carla, explained that her father, who has dual Italian-Argentinian citizenship, had been living legally in the US but was caught over an outstanding warrant for a driving violation. He was detained during a family road trip intended to document their journey back to Argentina on YouTube. According to the DHS, Artese has overstayed his visa since 2015. His daughter Carla has started a fundraising campaign to secure an attorney, expressing anguish over the inhumane conditions and lack of legal access her father faces. Artese described the detention centre as a “concentration camp” in a previous interview. Gaetano Mirabella Costa, also detained, spoke to Italy’s state broadcaster RAI, describing cramped and degrading conditions. Costa, with a criminal record including domestic violence and drug possession, overstayed his B2 visa by nearly seven years, as per DHS. His mother has criticised the harsh treatment he’s received, comparing it to being treated like a "dog." The Italian Consulate in Miami remains in contact, though they haven’t disclosed further details. This international incident underscores ongoing debates over immigration enforcement and human rights within detention facilities. Adapted by ASEAN Now from CNN 2025-07-23 1 1
Popular Post bkk6060 Posted 6 hours ago Popular Post Posted 6 hours ago Overstay criminals. Too bad. 2 3 2 2
Jingthing Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 32 minutes ago, bkk6060 said: Overstay criminals. Too bad. With maga, cruelty is the point. Alligator Alcatraz is highly visible American fascism theater. 2 1 6 1 3
Popular Post TedG Posted 6 hours ago Popular Post Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: With maga, cruelty is the point. Alligator Alcatraz is highly visible American fascism theater. In your world, enforcing the law is seen as cruel. 5 3 1 2 2 2
Popular Post expat_4_life Posted 2 hours ago Popular Post Posted 2 hours ago 4 hours ago, webfact said: Costa, with a criminal record including domestic violence and drug possession Sounds like an "immigrant" we can do without, no sympathy for a criminal. 4 2 1 1
Paul Henry Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Trump is keen to see his legacy as "The Great President". He will go down in history as the worst president in history.His criminal and inhumane edicts will let his name live in infamy. A disgrace to his country. 2 1 8 1 3
Popular Post newbee2022 Posted 2 hours ago Popular Post Posted 2 hours ago 4 hours ago, webfact said: Carla has started a fundraising campaign , Oh, it's not only a British thing 😂 1 5
KhaoHom Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 hours ago, Jingthing said: With maga, cruelty is the point. Alligator Alcatraz is highly visible American fascism theater. We can only hope 1
Popular Post KhaoHom Posted 2 hours ago Popular Post Posted 2 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Paul Henry said: Trump is keen to see his legacy as "The Great President". He will go down in history as the worst president in history.His criminal and inhumane edicts will let his name live in infamy. A disgrace to his country. Cry harder 1 2 2 5
Hamus Yaigh Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 hours ago, TedG said: In your world, enforcing the law is seen as cruel. And in your world detention in cruel degrading conditions without due process is acceptable. 1 1
Popular Post mikeymike100 Posted 2 hours ago Popular Post Posted 2 hours ago 18 minutes ago, Paul Henry said: Trump is keen to see his legacy as "The Great President". He will go down in history as the worst president in history.His criminal and inhumane edicts will let his name live in infamy. A disgrace to his country. Maybe if other countries leaders were more harsh with illegals they wouldn't have so many problems, like the UK does! 1 2 1
Zimar Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Appears as if the previous US administrations have ignored the Immigration laws to enhance cheap labor and influence voting through procreation of children on US soil. Now it appears there is an Administration that intends to enforce the Immigration laws. With all the riots and protesting, the efforts may be more productive in re-writing the Immigration laws. I've read the US Constitution and congressional laws were intended, at the will of the people, to change with future needs through the Amendment's.
Gsxrnz Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Cry me a bucket, it's not Colditz. They should show some entrepreneurial gumption and commence digging a tunnel. 1
bogozy Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 hours ago, Jingthing said: With maga, cruelty is the point. Alligator Alcatraz is highly visible American fascism theater. What is your wish? Place the criminals in a five star apartman hotel, with full service, and a hefty pocket money per month? 1
Popular Post ecline Posted 1 hour ago Popular Post Posted 1 hour ago 4 hours ago, Jingthing said: With maga, cruelty is the point. Alligator Alcatraz is highly visible American fascism theater. Try pulling the same stunt here. Then you can say "With Thais, cruelty is the point" They overstayed. They broke the law. They got caught. Boo hoo. 1 2
Popular Post TexasCowboy Posted 1 hour ago Popular Post Posted 1 hour ago What happens if you overstay in Italy? What is the holding facility they use prior to deportation? Would you be banned if you overstayed 10 years or 5 years or committed crimes? I don't understand the outrage. Every country I think exports overstayers.....just balancing the trade. 1 3
Jingthing Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, expat_4_life said: Sounds like an "immigrant" we can do without, no sympathy for a criminal. Trump is a criminal. 1
Thingamabob Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Criminal records for domestic violence, drug possession and immigration violations including overstaying. Detention justified, but a trial should follow without delay. 1
Popular Post KhunLA Posted 1 hour ago Popular Post Posted 1 hour ago Not sure what Trump has to do with anything, except taking up space in the deranged folks mind. Criminals caught overstaying their visas have been jailed & deported, since visa have been used to stay in the USA, and probably every other country. So if I overstay my visa here, TH, get deported, that's probably Trump's fault. The 3M that Obama deported, was that's Trump's fault also, in the deranged minds. About 35 years of visa program, and all those deportations, must be Trump's fault. 3
KhunLA Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 9 minutes ago, Thingamabob said: Criminal records for domestic violence, drug possession and immigration violations including overstaying. Detention justified, but a trial should follow without delay. No trial necessary, visa overstayed ... immediate deportation IMHO What is there to process, you no longer have permission to stay, that expired ... BYE BYE Same thing happens here, TH, if I overstay, there's no trial, there's detained while waiting to get deported. Your embassy rep might show up, tell you the obvious, you're an idiot, good luck. If a Yank, they'll pay for the plane ticket, (full fare) and you pay them back, as soon as they garnish your wages or soc sec. CNN ... creating news... ..."The Italian Consulate in Miami remains in contact, though they haven’t disclosed further details. This international incident underscores ongoing debates over immigration enforcement and human rights within detention facilities." ... "International incident" ... Bay of Pigs or Cuban blockade, invading Iraq, is an international incident. Overstaying you visa, is not. 1 1
KhaoHom Posted 32 minutes ago Posted 32 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Hamus Yaigh said: And in your world detention in cruel degrading conditions without due process is acceptable. The lack of due process is a total fiction. The media is no longer crying about it bc the detainees get due process. Moreover, many are placed in detention bc they failed to show up to court for last attempt at giving them due process - often felonies Do you REALLY care about these people? Especially living in Thailand no less? No. You don't. Cry harder
Luuk Chaai Posted 26 minutes ago Posted 26 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Hamus Yaigh said: And in your world detention in cruel degrading conditions without due process is acceptable. ok,, here's an idea.. let them loose .. 1a day and at a time say around 10pm no shoes no shirt.. just a bloody chopped up chicken strapped tp their back !
Dan747 Posted 20 minutes ago Posted 20 minutes ago Trump is enforcing all the laws that the Biden Administration failed to enforce. Sorry, you come into the USA illegally then you deserve "Alligator Alcatraz"-PERIOD!!
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