2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

And increasing percentage of his supporters are becoming very frustrated with the fact that he's not following through on many of his campaign promises and he's getting utterly distracted by his anger, venom and desire for revenge. 

 

There's also evidence that many of his supporters are becoming increasingly frustrated with his tariff approach, and his daily changes to the policies, and adding on penalties for reasons of his own choosing. He is diminishing the influence of America throughout the world in addition to destroying its economy a day at a time.

 

Is that enough for you, or do you need more?

Thanks Mike.dave take the blinkers off

1 minute ago, spidermike007 said:

And increasing percentage of his supporters are becoming very frustrated with the fact that he's not following through on many of his campaign promises and he's getting utterly distracted by his anger, venom and desire for revenge. 

 

There's also evidence that many of his supporters are becoming increasingly frustrated with his tariff approach, and his daily changes to the policies, and adding on penalties for reasons of his own choosing. He is diminishing the influence of America throughout the world in addition to destroying its economy a day at a time.

 

Is that enough for you, or do you need more?

No, that’s no lt enough to convince me. That’s just the same BS all lefties are regurgitating.

 

It is certainly not what I’m seeing. 

2 minutes ago, Tug said:

Thanks Mike.dave take the blinkers off

What are you seeing that I’m not seeing? 

 

I do not know anyone the voted for Trump that wishes Harris had won. 

 

Anyone the believes that is delusional.

8 minutes ago, mogandave said:

What are you seeing that I’m not seeing? 

 

I do not know anyone the voted for Trump that wishes Harris had won. 

 

Anyone the believes that is delusional.

At Costco today I saw one dude with a magga hat on with 4 people berating the fool that’s just today trumps polling showed him as the most underwater president in our history every I talk to are extremely displeased with the way of handeling foreign policy education healthcare and the economy.Ive been back stateside for 3 months now I’ve seen less that 10 people wearing trump swag.

His poll numbers are absolutely dismal and they continue to fall. Trump is a grotesque failure at president. 

4 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

His poll numbers are absolutely dismal and they continue to fall. Trump is a grotesque failure at president. 

His 2nd term polls dont matter

1 hour ago, Will B Good said:

The second least favorite President in history was Donald Trump in his first term. 

Just now, spidermike007 said:

The second least favorite President in history was Donald Trump in his first term. 

 

Correct!!!....555

Yes..., at least I certainly hope so.

On 8/3/2025 at 12:42 PM, spidermike007 said:

It would appear to many of us that Trump is utterly desperate to control the narrative regardless of the facts, and regardless of where the economy is. Many economists warned that there will be consequences for his reckless and indecisive tariffs, and now that they're coming home to roost he just can't seem to wrap his mind around the actual reality his chaos has caused, and possible failure of his policies. 

 

Mr. Trump’s war on facts reached new heights on Friday when he angrily fired the Labor Department official in charge of compiling statistics on employment in America because he did not like the latest jobs report showing that the economy isn’t doing as well as he claims it is. Mr. Trump declared that her numbers were “phony.” His proof? It was “my opinion.” And the story he told supposedly proving she was politically biased? It had no basis in fact itself.

 

Both Democrats and Republicans criticized the move, including Mr. Trump’s labor statistics chief in his first term, William W. Beach, who wrote on social media that it was “totally groundless” and “sets a dangerous precedent.”

 

Mr. Trump has never been especially wedded to facts, routinely making up his own numbers, repeating falsehoods and conspiracy theories even after they are debunked and denigrating the very concept of independent fact-checking. But his efforts since reclaiming the White House to make the rest of government adopt his versions of the truth have gone further than in his first term and increasingly remind scholars of the way authoritarian leaders in other countries have sought to control information.

 

“Democracy can’t realistically exist without reliable epistemic infrastructure,” said Michael Patrick Lynch, author of the recently published “On Truth in Politics” and a professor at the University of Connecticut.

“Anti-democratic, authoritarian leaders know this,” he said. “That is why they will seize every opportunity to control sources of information. 

 

His fast-and-loose approach to numbers and facts finally caught up with him last year when he was found liable for fraud in a civil case in which a judge found that he used his annual financial statements to defraud lenders and ordered him to pay what has now exceeded $500 million with interest. Mr. Trump has appealed the ruling.

 

Mr. Trump and his allies assailed the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office for projecting that his tax and spending legislation would add trillions of dollars to the national debt and offered his own numbers instead.

 

“I predict we will do 3, 4, or even 5 times the amount they purposefully ‘allotted’ to us,” he said, referring to growth expected to be stimulated by tax cuts, which he insisted would “cost us no money.” Mr. Trump called the budget office “Democrat inspired and ‘controlled,’” even though it is nonpartisan and Republicans have majorities in both chambers of Congress.

 

“It’s a post-factual world that Trump is looking for, and he’s got these sycophants working for him that don’t challenge him on facts,” said Barbara Comstock, a former Republican congresswoman from Virginia.

But firing the messenger, she said, will not make the economy any better. “The reality is the economy is worse, and he can’t keep saying it’s better,” she said. “Joe Biden learned that; people still experience the experience they have, no matter how much” you tell them otherwise.

 

Partial excerpts from a NY Times article by Peter Baker. 

You are desperate to hang on to and believe the Marxist Democrat narrative that is repeated over and over,  Pure propaganda.  The better question would be, "Would Biden's 'War on facts' on any subject hold up at all if the media was not in the Democrats pocket?

6 minutes ago, thaipo7 said:

You are desperate to hang on to and believe the Marxist Democrat narrative that is repeated over and over,  Pure propaganda.  The better question would be, "Would Biden's 'War on facts' on any subject hold up at all if the media was not in the Democrats pocket?

President Biden is a great American statesman. 
 

Trump is a stupid, lying, convicted felon, and a pedo. 

22 hours ago, Tug said:

At Costco today I saw one dude with a magga hat on with 4 people berating the fool that’s just today trumps polling showed him as the most underwater president in our history every I talk to are extremely displeased with the way of handeling foreign policy education healthcare and the economy.Ive been back stateside for 3 months now I’ve seen less that 10 people wearing trump swag.

So there were four leftists berating one guy in a maga hat, and you think that because you don’t see many hats that proves Trump has lost support. 

 

Maybe people do not like stupid leftists (redundant) ganging up and harassing them. 

 

 

Posts with derogatory nicknames, intentional misspellings, or personal remarks will be removed. Spell names correctly for all sides of the debate.

1 hour ago, thaipo7 said:

You are desperate to hang on to and believe the Marxist Democrat narrative that is repeated over and over,  Pure propaganda.  The better question would be, "Would Biden's 'War on facts' on any subject hold up at all if the media was not in the Democrats pocket?

Why don't you start a thread on that.

2 hours ago, thaipo7 said:

You are desperate to hang on to and believe the Marxist Democrat narrative that is repeated over and over,  Pure propaganda.  The better question would be, "Would Biden's 'War on facts' on any subject hold up at all if the media was not in the Democrats pocket?

You are again resorting to your political master's favorite tactic, deflection. When faced with unfavorable facts, distort the conversation and deflect to the former president. 

 

It's a very intellectually lazy tactic, invented by one of the most intellectually crippled men to ever enter American politics. 

Just a poll on  a notoriously hard left new channel, so nothing to see.

 

 

 

https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3lvzbcfity22u

 

 

Quote

 

FOX HOST: “Americans largely disapprove of Trump’s economic policies.”

REPUBLICAN REP. RALPH NORMAN: “A lot of Americans ARE seeing higher prices… But it’s for the good of the country.”

 

 

 

On 8/3/2025 at 7:16 PM, spidermike007 said:

And denial of facts and lies are just noise. Distractions. Distortions. Moral decay. Pathetic defense of the indefensible. 

Isn't that the new motto for the dems? Don't believe your eyes or wallet just vote dem no matter what? 

Good Luck with that. 

On 8/7/2025 at 7:57 AM, BLMFem said:

Are you being deliberately obtuse? I'm not saying anything about the efficacy of the vaccines, the Sec of Health is.

The vaccine was poison that did absolutely nothing to prevent Covid. If you doubt that just listen to one of the inventors, Robert Malone!  They need to stop the money grab and ban it!

On 8/10/2025 at 8:35 AM, WayWokeWhiteGuy said:

President Biden is a great American statesman. 
 

Trump is a stupid, lying, convicted felon, and a pedo. 

Yeah, just think he showered with his teenage daughter, Ashley, oh wait, that was Ashley Biden, joe Bidens daughter and shower-mate! not only is Biden a pedophile, he's an incestuous one. Ouch, you support and vote for incestuous pedophiles?

On 8/10/2025 at 5:33 PM, MicroB said:

Just a poll on  a notoriously hard left new channel, so nothing to see.

 

 

 

https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3lvzbcfity22u

 

Oh well, shame about the panicans praying for more Biden style inflation, but sorry, just not on Trumps watch.

How does Biden compare to Trump MAGA WINNING record!

 

 

 

25 minutes ago, illisdean said:

 

Oh no…

Markets go up when Trump TACOS on tariffs as he just did AGAIN on China.

Just now, Jingthing said:

Markets go up when Trump TACOS on tariffs as he just did AGAIN on China.

So let’s hope be TACOs every day until the midterms 

This will help explain tariffs for the MAGAs...............

 

OOPS......another kick in the nuts for the MAGAs:

 

And yet more from the orange clown.........

 

Trump’s answer to numbers he doesn’t like is to change them or throw them away.

President Donald Trump presented inaccurate crime statistics to justify a federal takeover of DC police.

 

He announced plans for the United States census to stop counting undocumented immigrants.

 

And he ordered the firing of the official in charge of compiling basic statistics about the US economy after a weak jobs report.

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/trumps-answer-to-numbers-he-doesnt-like-is-to-change-them-or-throw-them-away/BC4URLBT7NHEHDNGFKPWTE47KI/

 

This month marked an escalation in Trump’s war on data, as he repeatedly tries to undermine statistics that threaten his agenda and distorts figures to bolster his policies.

 

The latest instances come on top of actions the Administration has taken across federal health, climate and education agencies to erase or overhaul data collection to align with the Administration’s agenda and worldview; something I never thought that I would see in my lifetime.

 

But then again I never envisaged a US president as crooked and dumb as this in my worst dreams.

More winning. Strong increase in wholesale prices! Someone's going to be fired! 🤣

 

US inflation on the wholesale level picked up steam last month, with prices rising by the fastest monthly pace since June 2022, new data showed Thursday.

The latest Producer Price Index, which measures the average change in prices paid to producers, jumped 0.9% from June, lifting the annual rate to 3.3%, according to Bureau of Labor Statistics data.

The PPI serves as a potential bellwether for the prices consumers may see in the months ahead.

“Producers are starting to feel the inflation fire heat,” Chris Rupkey, chief economist at FwdBonds, wrote Thursday. “It will only be a matter of time before producers pass their higher tariff-related costs on to the backs of inflation-weary consumers.”

 

https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/14/economy/us-ppi-wholesale-inflation-july?cid=android_app

 

The Producer Price Index for final demand rose 0.9 percent in July, seasonally adjusted, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Final demand prices were unchanged in June and moved up 0.4 percent in May. (See table A.) On an unadjusted basis, the index for final demand advanced 3.3 percent for the 12 months ended in July, the largest 12-month increase since rising 3.4 percent in February 2025.

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/ppi.nr0.htm

2 hours ago, candide said:

More winning. Strong increase in wholesale prices! Someone's going to be fired! 🤣

 

US inflation on the wholesale level picked up steam last month, with prices rising by the fastest monthly pace since June 2022, new data showed Thursday.

The latest Producer Price Index, which measures the average change in prices paid to producers, jumped 0.9% from June, lifting the annual rate to 3.3%, according to Bureau of Labor Statistics data.

The PPI serves as a potential bellwether for the prices consumers may see in the months ahead.

“Producers are starting to feel the inflation fire heat,” Chris Rupkey, chief economist at FwdBonds, wrote Thursday. “It will only be a matter of time before producers pass their higher tariff-related costs on to the backs of inflation-weary consumers.”

 

https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/14/economy/us-ppi-wholesale-inflation-july?cid=android_app

 

The Producer Price Index for final demand rose 0.9 percent in July, seasonally adjusted, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Final demand prices were unchanged in June and moved up 0.4 percent in May. (See table A.) On an unadjusted basis, the index for final demand advanced 3.3 percent for the 12 months ended in July, the largest 12-month increase since rising 3.4 percent in February 2025.

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/ppi.nr0.htm

Correct, and just give it another 6 to 12 months and we'll see who's complaining about Trump created runaway inflation (TCRI).