Unsubstantiated claims from almost 20 years ago.  This is the same "journalist" who is reporting on Prince George eating a hamburger in Greece and carrying on as if it was a great event.

I don't doubt for a minute that Andrew is a vile person and a burden to his family. However,what we have here is someone trying to promote his book sales by offering a salacious account of an imagined orgy. You can get more details if you purchase his book.

11 hours ago, short-Timer said:

This wasn’t a dinner party fumble or a cheeky pinch of the bum—it was a sustained parade of women into a taxpayer-funded royal suite

 

Hands up all who haven't been to a Fish Bowl massage.

 

Hands up all who haven't been to a Fish Bowl massage.

 

Me...after some 30 years here, on and off.....I really need to get my act together.

Whatever the fact or fiction or somewhere in between, I'm sure it will help the book sales.

1 hour ago, VocalNeal said:

 

Hands up all who haven't been to a Fish Bowl massage.

 

Surely there's no one!  It's an essential part of Thai culture, like going with a ladyboy.

Bob did 100 in a weekend

So what? No I have never had his stamina, like most of us probably.

Oviously he got the right nick name:

Randy Andy.

No surprise

8 hours ago, bannork said:

 

I had to google what 'bell end' meant, but seems to fit the man.

 

I'm incorporating the phrase into my lexicon, since I think I know couple of guys who also fit the description, albeit not with the Royal pedigree

12 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Oviously he got the right nick name:

Randy Andy.

No surprise

Beat me to it.

The tabs hung that nickname on him when he was in his teens.

Then he married that red headed tart who was filmed by a pool having her toes sucked by one of her toy boys.

These slimebags are a disgrace.

I hope William and Kate will eventually bring back some level of decency.

Sounds like some people are jealous.

They revealed laminated instructions were kept next to the Duke of York’s Buckingham Palace bedroom for when he stayed there The list was entitled: ‘DOY bed: Points for turn down & making the bed.’

 

‘When making the bed, place the teddy & cushion next to the teddy on the left- hand side with the necklaces on.’

Underneath in capital letters, it said: ‘Do not loose [sic] the teddy & cushion!!’

 

The sketch with the note shows ‘teddy holding heart’ has to be placed on the left-hand side of the headboard, with a grey hippo teddy on the right-hand side of the bed and a black panther halfway down.

 

https://metro.co.uk/2022/01/18/sketch-of-exactly-where-prince-andrews-teddy-bears-had-to-go-on-bed-15935966/

 

 

Adding words to the article like 'vile' and 'repulsive' is hypocrisy ... the author of the book and the reporter are writing smut to fascinate their readers and make money off rumours.

 

I'm sure Andrew had way too much fun on his travels, just like many politicians, rock stars and sportsmen .... but this report is largely fake rumours.  He was a Prince, not a Saint, and his duties included British businesses overseas.

 

I was at a British Chamber meetings in the 5* hotel next to Erawan where Prince Andrew attended - he did a good job meeting British and foreign businessmen and asked searching questions about business opportunities and he actually sounded like he was listening and trying to add value.

 

I understand he was also briefed by the British Ambassador, who had met with senior Brit business people before the trip, so he could raise some concerns with the influential Thais he was meeting over the next few days.

 

I don't remember seeing any other members of the Royal Family doing anything useful for British businesses in Thailand.

 

And how do I know the salacious details are fake .... ?  I met one of the management team through work a few days after the event, and he let slip a few details of the nights entertainment, and it was very tame compared to the 40 girls nonesense.

 

10 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

He was a Prince, not a Saint, and his duties included British businesses overseas.

He's also a sexual assaulter and a statutory rapist of underaged women. He's destroyed lives. He paid one woman millions to silence her lawsuits against him. She alleged in court documents that she was forced to have sex with Prince Andrew on three occasions when she was 17, including one instance on Epstein’s island described as an “orgy with numerous other underage girls.” Eventually she killed herself because she couldn't live with the shame. Obviously money wasn't enough to repair the damage he had done to her. 

16 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

I'm sure Andrew had way too much fun on his travels

He should have been held criminally accountable for the sexual offenses he committed against minors, just as his co-conspirator Epstein was.

3 hours ago, Will B Good said:

Hands up all who haven't been to a Fish Bowl massage.

 

Me...after some 30 years here, on and off.....I really need to get my act together.

 

After a 30 year abstention, it's pretty much guaranteed that your experience will be good.

3 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

 

Hands up all who haven't been to a Fish Bowl massage.

 

 

Twice about 25 years ago, one was very disappointing the other a total rip off

2 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Surely there's no one!  It's an essential part of Thai culture, like going with a ladyboy.

 

...more than once.

Just now, proton said:

 

Twice about 25 years ago, one was very disappointing the other a total rip off

 

With you, I can imagine it was.

14 minutes ago, short-Timer said:

He's also a sexual assaulter and a statutory rapist of underaged women. He's destroyed lives. He paid one woman millions to silence her lawsuits against him. She alleged in court documents that she was forced to have sex with Prince Andrew on three occasions when she was 17, including one instance on Epstein’s island described as an “orgy with numerous other underage girls.” Eventually she killed herself because she couldn't live with the shame. Obviously money wasn't enough to repair the damage he had done to her. 

 

Correction, his mummy paid millions, etc..

6 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

After a 30 year abstention, it's pretty much guaranteed that your experience will be good.

 

I tell you what....I am looking forward to it.....why did I never go?????? (rhetorical)...

3 hours ago, ChipButty said:

My youngest brother was in the Navy with him, best we say nothing here, and they did go to war in Falklands, 

Things really started to go wrong for Andrew once he left the navy in 2001. By then he'd pretty much squandered all the credit he earned (deservedly) for his in-theatre service in the Falklands. 

10 minutes ago, short-Timer said:

He's also a sexual assaulter and a statutory rapist of underaged women. He's destroyed lives. He paid one woman millions to silence her lawsuits against him. She alleged in court documents that she was forced to have sex with Prince Andrew on three occasions when she was 17, including one instance on Epstein’s island described as an “orgy with numerous other underage girls.” Eventually she killed herself because she couldn't live with the shame. Obviously money wasn't enough to repair the damage he had done to her. 

That may all be true, or perhaps it's the picture the media found most profitable to build.  Neither of us know for sure.

 

Maybe the girl had other issues that allowed her to be manipulated by people with evil intentions, maybe those issues were partly to blame for her tragic end .... we will probably never know.  

 

My views of Andrew relate to one meeting and his work to help businesses, yours are based on the way some facts are mixed with supposition by the media.  All men with absolute power over others do things that can be seen as evil, it's the curse of the male psychology.  

 

Perhaps it's fortunate that most of us on the forum do not have such power.

3 hours ago, ChipButty said:

My youngest brother was in the Navy with him, best we say nothing here, and they did go to war in Falklands, 

Why is it best we say nothing? unless of course we have nothing to say

1 hour ago, Harrisfan said:

Sounds like some people are jealous.

Jealous of what?

1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:

Why is it best we say nothing? unless of course we have nothing to say

Clever response.

16 minutes ago, Negita43 said:

Push Ups? 

pelvic thrusts   into the palm of his clenched right hand  most likely

15 hours ago, blaze master said:

Who doesnt like a weekend orgy. 

Me I am too old.

11 minutes ago, still kicking said:

Me I am too old.

 

Ewwwww

3 hours ago, Kinnock said:

That may all be true, or perhaps it's the picture the media found most profitable to build.  Neither of us know for sure.

 

Maybe the girl had other issues that allowed her to be manipulated by people with evil intentions, maybe those issues were partly to blame for her tragic end .... we will probably never know.  

 

My views of Andrew relate to one meeting and his work to help businesses, yours are based on the way some facts are mixed with supposition by the media.  All men with absolute power over others do things that can be seen as evil, it's the curse of the male psychology.  

 

Perhaps it's fortunate that most of us on the forum do not have such power.

In January 2022, after a U.S. judge ruled that Virginia Giuffre’s civil lawsuit against him could proceed, Buckingham Palace announced that, with the Queen’s approval, Prince Andrew’s military affiliations and royal patronages were returned to the Queen. He was also stripped of the use of his “His Royal Highness” (HRH) title in any official capacity. Do you think if any of the allegations were false that the Royal family would have done any of this to him?

 

Prince Andrew has also been largely excluded from high-profile royal events, such as Trooping the Colour and the Order of the Garter procession, particularly under pressure from Prince William, who reportedly views Andrew’s scandals as a liability to the monarchy. As a non-working royal, he also no longer receives funding for official duties.

 

The settlement with Giuffre in February 2022, reportedly between $6 million and $16 million, included a donation to a victims’ rights charity. 

 

In summary, Prince Andrew was effectively sidelined from public royal life, stripped of titles and patronages, and faces huge financial and reputational consequences. Thus, it's hard to imagine the accusations against him are false.