48 minutes ago, ronnie50 said:

I think a lot of people never think about the stamina needed for a top performer to do what they do sometimes for up to 3 hours. Incredible stamina.

Springsteen, just last month, amazing.

And then there's Mick of course!

4 hours ago, connda said:

 

Look around a little and open your horizons.  There IS new rock out there.  You may just not like it.  As people get older they get stuck in the genres of one time period.  I'm not that way personally.  The people I graduated high school with still think 50, 60, and 70s music is the only music.  I never limited myself to one genre of time period.  Move with the time. Enjoy the old stuff and embrace the new.   Check this out:
https://playback.fm/charts/rock/2020

Or try old stuff by new bands.  A good example is "Beggin" which was an old Frank Valli song that was rebooted, and exceptionally so if I might say, by the band Måneskin.

 

 

And Frankie Valli
 

 

 

Don't know what it is butnot Rock

 

3 hours ago, ronnie50 said:

The 70s/80s big name rock bands and stars are either trying to reuinite or are dying off or both. Ozzy Osborne just died. Neil Peart (RUSH's drummer and lyricist) died 8-10 years ago. Dan McCafferty of Nazareth died around 10 years back at least. Do we really want another Scorpions Goodbye Tour? AC/DC has stopped as far as I know. OASIS is touring again (but I don't place them in the same genre. Kids really).

That's my point, usually when these bands travelled, they had a young up-and-coming band open for them.  Now nada.

9 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Rock died when Duane Allman took that Harley down.

The Allmans came out with great music after he died. Warren Haynes on slide is every bit as good or better than Duane was, as is Derek Trucks. 

8 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

The Allmans came out with great music after he died. Warren Haynes on slide is every bit as good or better than Duane was, as is Derek Trucks. 

Blasphemy

Rock hasn't died, as there are many bands still coming out with good music. One of them is Robert Jon and the Wreck...............

Others are The Steel Woods, Blackberry Smoke and Georgia Thunderbolts, Joe Bonamassa, all in the blues rock, southern rock genre. Much of what comes out you'll only hear about if you research, and other bands in the same genre will pop up.

Just now, Yagoda said:

Blasphemy

Listen to Warren Haynes in Govt. Mule, solo and his time with the Allmans. Him and Trucks are considered the best slide guitarists now. Duane was good, but both listened to Duane all along, and spread on that..............

 

15 hours ago, kingstonkid said:

Has Rock music now fallen to the depths to be remembered fondly like the big band era or Jive music.

 

There used to be Rock groups coming up, but now the only bands that we hear about are the same ones we heard about in the 90's

 

 

Incredible! Music evolves, and you just have to go along with it, or listen to your oldies goldies. Rock music is still there!

For example, take Yngwie Malmsteen or Santana and compare to this guy: Eric Steckel

After that take a look at super blues rock with Joe Bonamassa

 

14 hours ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Spinal Tap 2 coming out shortly. Probably is a guide to how many young people look at rock n roll - old guys acting over the top. Having said that the few young people I know do actually listen to a lot of the old stuff - and think much of the new stuff sucks. 

I normally have had  experience this:

Gen-X:  Rad! - Led Zeppelin is awesome!
Millennial: Wow - Led Zeppelin is epic!
Gen-Z: Bruh, Led Zeppelin’s is straight fire!
Gen-Alpha: Skibidi! Led Zeppelin’s vibes are bussin’!

Realistically, most expats are Boomers who are generally suck in 50, 60, and 70s music.  Don't get me wrong, since I began playing bass guitar I've had a renewed appreciation of the older music, but I have a fond place in my heart for 80s music, but like a lot of the 90s and 2000s tunes. Actually I've had a renewed interest in all genres of music which lays down a bass line including international music.

14 hours ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Can highly recommend the remix version and film clip by Cyriak of Begging . 5.5 million views. 

Creepy.

4 minutes ago, connda said:

Realistically, most expats are Boomers who are generally suck in 50, 60, and 70s music.  Don't get me wrong, since I began playing bass guitar I've had a renewed appreciation of the older music, but I have a fond place in my heart for 80s music, but like a lot of the 90s and 2000s tunes. Actually I've had a renewed interest in all genres of music which lays down a bass line including international music.

I have a few friends that still post abut 70's music and I'm always turning them onto newer music in the same genres. While it's true that we've grown up with music that is timeless, from the 50's to the 80's, there are still many bands that have expanded on that influence and have come out with some really good songs, especially in the progressive rock genre. Southern rock has seen a comeback with Blackberry Smoke, Robert Jon and the Wreck and The Steel Woods, just to name a few, keeping the Lynyrd Skynyrd, Allman Brothers, Molly Hatchet and Outlaws music alive. 

28 minutes ago, connda said:

Realistically, most expats are Boomers who are generally suck in 50, 60, and 70s music.  Don't get me wrong, since I began playing bass guitar I've had a renewed appreciation of the older music, but I have a fond place in my heart for 80s music, but like a lot of the 90s and 2000s tunes. Actually I've had a renewed interest in all genres of music which lays down a bass line including international music.

The 80-90 early 2000 was good for rock.  But you do not see any big groups ike you used to bands seem more geared to youtube and such.  

 

Look at the bands other than country that are travelling and doing concerts.

10 hours ago, kingstonkid said:

That's my point, usually when these bands travelled, they had a young up-and-coming band open for them.  Now nada.

Yes, they don't do that here do they. In any case, the bands now are all manufactured and marketed by media corporations on looks/dance routines. K-pop, J-pop, boy bands, girl bands.. While Taylor Swift gets criticised by some on here, at least she has talent and stamina to perform long concerts night after night for a year. A rare bread these days.

 

Remember the scandal when the German pop-duo Milli Vanilli was outed by their own manager for singing NONE of the vocals on their own albums in the early 1990s? Apparently they'd sold 7 million in the US alone. Now lip sync seems to be no big deal among performers.

16 hours ago, bannork said:

I remember when she recorded a concert at the BBC, at the end the sound engineers, lighting staff, etc, all stood up and applauded her.

Someone asked them why, they said they were used to seeing excellent bands, artists etc, it was part of their job, but Tina's performance was simply outstanding.

 

 

 

it happened everywhere she went on tour or tv shows, she had an extremely likable personality and I didn’t hear one bad word as long we worked for her. 

 

Anyway here saxophone player Tim Cappello was the ladies man, and he picked his girls for back stage every night  from top of the stage pointing down to each and one girls he liked to take back stage. 

 

 

16 hours ago, proton said:

Some people claim this is one of the first rock and roll songs, seems a lot like rock around the clock but 1947

 

 

 

Amazing, sounds almost exactly like Rock around the Clock.

 

So Hank Williams was the father of Rock n Roll.

 

You don't hear that a lot.

 

Released in 1928, very nearly a century ago.  

Canned Heat copied it to a tee, even the flute/pipe instrument.

Not the birth of rock n roll admittedly but perhaps a sign of the folk/blues to come.

Rosetta Tharpe trailblazing away.

 

Radio 6 in the UK plays a lot of modern music, quite a lot is still rock based and live. 

Reality TV shows are literally the lowest common denominator in contemporary American culture, and they're one of the reasons why Trump is so popular, and also one of the reasons why America is on a swift decline as a nation.

 

As a culture we need to wean ourselves away from reality TV, it is a heinous influence. These kinds of people bring absolutely nothing to the table. Same applies to much of social media. It is weakening contemporary society it is causing gen Z to be the weakest generation in the history of mankind and it appears to be stifling creativity on every level. 

 

I attribute it to the extreme lack of talent at this time. Alot of the current crop of musicians just do not have the training, the talent, the dedication, the voices, the bands, or the juice that musicians of the past had. I search and search for music I like, and these days it is a tough search. I realize I say this as an older guy, but I am very open minded about music, listen to hiphop (mostly old school, progressive, trip-hop, and underground) jazz, pop, folk, world, and more. And I can say there is not much out there these days that is deep, satisfying, soulful, and memorable.

 

I think there were 3 great music period in our lifetimes. 

 

From around 1965 to the early 1970's. An explosion of amazing music, lyrics and social awareness. 

 

From the late 70s to the late 1980s. Incredible funk, old school hip hop, and great British music from bands ranging from Joy Division to Depeche Mode to the Cure (the ballads), Morrissey, Tears for Fears (the ballads), Radiohead, Phil Collins/Genesis, Eric Clapton, Rod Stewart, NWA, Dre, Ice Cube, and so many more. 

 

Then Electronica, hip hop and rock from around 1996 to about 2003. Amazing creativity. DJ Shadow, Tosca, Faithless, Lamb, Red Snapper, DJ Krush, Coldcut, Zero 7, N.E.R.D., Yogi B and Natchatra, Pearl Jam, Bush, Gorillaz, Boards of Canada, Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, the Foo Fighters, Alice in Chains, 2pac, Biggie, etc. Brilliant stuff. 

 

Since then? The National? U2? Not much. Dreadful hip hop, way too much lousy pop, boring and lifeless lyrics, and not much content. Reflective of Gen Z? Who knows. Just not much there. 

I don't know about rock, but there's several YouTubes claiming that pop is now written by the same dozen or so people, to be performed by all of the "top artists".  Written according to a formula.  I can't say I disagree.  It all sounds pretty much the same (and lame) to me.

 

But maybe I'm just getting old...

 

23 hours ago, kingstonkid said:

Has Rock music now fallen to the depths to be remembered fondly like the big band era or Jive music.

 

There used to be Rock groups coming up, but now the only bands that we hear about are the same ones we heard about in the 90's

 

 

Plenty of good music out there. Get away from commercial radio. Surf internet radio stations using imaginative terms & download a world radio app....."progressive or innovative" are always a good place to start. Try Radio Caroline or especially German stations.

Good Searching.🙃🙃

On 8/5/2025 at 6:44 PM, kingstonkid said:

Has Rock music now fallen to the depths to be remembered fondly like the big band era or Jive music.

 

There used to be Rock groups coming up, but now the only bands that we hear about are the same ones we heard about in the 90's

We will probably never see that same rock scene again from the 80's-90's, at least not the live metal and punk scene. It was a unique decade and not something that will just continue indefinately.

 

One day you turn into an old man listening to strange Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin albums on some strange turntable and the kids never heard of it...

40 minutes ago, Mark1969 said:

We will probably never see that same rock scene again from the 80's-90's, at least not the live metal and punk scene. It was a unique decade and not something that will just continue indefinately.

 

One day you turn into an old man listening to strange Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin albums on some strange turntable and the kids never heard of it...

 

The kids? I never heard Black Sabbath or Led Zeppelin.

 

The 80s were about Michael Jackson, Prince, Janet Jackson, Whitney, Madonna and Co surely.

Music changes as new generations mature

 

I listen to stations which call themselves 'classic rock'

 

Seems like only yesterday to me, yet the kids would never dream of listening to it.

 

Welcome to the world of getting older, and unfortunately sounding just like your parents who railed against 'rock n roll'

11 hours ago, Mark1969 said:

We will probably never see that same rock scene again from the 80's-90's, at least not the live metal and punk scene. It was a unique decade and not something that will just continue indefinately.

 

One day you turn into an old man listening to strange Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin albums on some strange turntable and the kids never heard of it...

What's really true is that we grew up listening to the best music that will ever be made, from the 50's to the 80's, with some good bands from then until now still coming out. They're all influenced by someone, and much of what we hear now still has that older influence attached to it.

 

I've been listening to music all my days, starting with hearing my dad's classical blasting through the home stereo until Woodstock came around, and I really started listening to rock at my beginning teen years. My mom bought me my first cassette, Cream-Disraeli Gears, and that was a good beginning.

 

Judas Priest and Black Sabbath were bands a friend at work turned me on to, driving home from work together. Then the first concert was Kiss, in makeup of course, and that further fed the appetite. From there I went ballistic, gathering cassettes wherever I could find them, until my collection hit 11,000. I regrettably sold them before moving here, along with some vinyl.

 

Cd's came into the picture a little before that, and researching found me many more bands than any radio station would ever play, as they always repeat the same things. I still find decent music listening to Youtube before bed, and as we know, you type in something you like, and new bands in the same genre come up, then I look for them to burn after.

 

I have thousands of cd's I haven't listened to yet, along with the 50K I about have now, but I still drag out some of the older Sabbath, Priest, Skynyrd, Pink Floyd, Aerosmith, 38 Special, Foghat, Free, Jefferson Airplane and many more, and this is what I turned all of my children onto, and which they still listen to now, even though they like the newer modern rock. I've brought my children to see Pink Floyd, Jason and the Scorchers, UFO, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Aerosmith and others. My 8 year old daughter has probably heard more good music than most others and definitely more than any Thai alive, and she'll likely look to them as she finds more newer music that won't match up to the older ones. 

On 8/5/2025 at 8:06 AM, ronnie50 said:

Try playing this for 3 hours - and never miss a beat.

 

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2020/01/11/gettyimages-134591594-e0523230e5c5778db6956ae52e61677a2eaadfa9.jpg?s=1100&c=50&f=jpeg

 

 

Egads!  Keith Moon would have met his match bashing all that up.

 

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

and this is what I turned all of my children onto, and which they still listen to now

 

There's a US comedian named Bill Burr, who says his kid is really into AC/DC, even dressing like them.  Makes his papa proud.

 

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

What's really true is that we grew up listening to the best music that will ever be made, from the 50's to the 80's, with some good bands from then until now still coming out. They're all influenced by someone, and much of what we hear now still has that older influence attached to it.

 

I've been listening to music all my days, starting with hearing my dad's classical blasting through the home stereo until Woodstock came around, and I really started listening to rock at my beginning teen years. My mom bought me my first cassette, Cream-Disraeli Gears, and that was a good beginning.

 

Judas Priest and Black Sabbath were bands a friend at work turned me on to, driving home from work together. Then the first concert was Kiss, in makeup of course, and that further fed the appetite. From there I went ballistic, gathering cassettes wherever I could find them, until my collection hit 11,000. I regrettably sold them before moving here, along with some vinyl.

 

Cd's came into the picture a little before that, and researching found me many more bands than any radio station would ever play, as they always repeat the same things. I still find decent music listening to Youtube before bed, and as we know, you type in something you like, and new bands in the same genre come up, then I look for them to burn after.

 

I have thousands of cd's I haven't listened to yet, along with the 50K I about have now, but I still drag out some of the older Sabbath, Priest, Skynyrd, Pink Floyd, Aerosmith, 38 Special, Foghat, Free, Jefferson Airplane and many more, and this is what I turned all of my children onto, and which they still listen to now, even though they like the newer modern rock. I've brought my children to see Pink Floyd, Jason and the Scorchers, UFO, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Aerosmith and others. My 8 year old daughter has probably heard more good music than most others and definitely more than any Thai alive, and she'll likely look to them as she finds more newer music that won't match up to the older ones. 

Why would you as a collector of that magnitude sell all your tapes?

2 minutes ago, Mark1969 said:

Why would you as a collector of that magnitude sell all your tapes?

Momentary lapse of reason. I wish I didn't and just boxed them into storage.