1 minute ago, Chris.C said:

I thought it was relevant as is this one.

Good intention, I wish Jews and Muslims read their holy books more, their are many common factors and they both want peace.

Exodus 23:31-33 (KJV)
"And I will set thy bounds from the Red sea even unto the sea of the Philistines, and from the desert unto the river: for I will deliver the inhabitants of the land into your hand; and thou shalt drive them out before thee. Thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor with their gods. They shall not dwell in thy land, lest they make thee sin against me..."

 

Surah Al-Ma'idah (5:21–26)

“O my people! Enter the Holy Land which Allah has assigned to you, and do not turn back or else you will become losers.”

They said, “O Moses! There is a tyrant people in it. We will never enter until they leave. If they do, then we will enter.”

 

 

What is it with you man? if you need the address to the nearest church just ask.

4 minutes ago, Chris.C said:

I thought it was relevant as is this one.

Good intention, I wish Jews and Muslims read their holy books more, their are many common factors and they both want peace.

Exodus 23:31-33 (KJV)
"And I will set thy bounds from the Red sea even unto the sea of the Philistines, and from the desert unto the river: for I will deliver the inhabitants of the land into your hand; and thou shalt drive them out before thee. Thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor with their gods. They shall not dwell in thy land, lest they make thee sin against me..."

 

Surah Al-Ma'idah (5:21–26)

“O my people! Enter the Holy Land which Allah has assigned to you, and do not turn back or else you will become losers.”

They said, “O Moses! There is a tyrant people in it. We will never enter until they leave. If they do, then we will enter.”

 

 

This post should be removed because it has quotes from unreliable sources, which are scams!!! 🥵

17 minutes ago, ezzra said:

What the difference who's arming whom, it doesn't change the fact many people have never heard about Gaza before the 7/10,

and now become experts on what is going on there, and again, if you so can care about Gaza, why not have the same passion and conviction for other countries who are in just as much, or even worse situation than Gaza?

or is it has to do that in Gaza Jews are involved my 2-faced posters?

Because we, the west, have supported Israel for many years and now feel ashamed of Israeli actions.

As usual when you have no real answer you refer and assert antisemitism.

18 minutes ago, ezzra said:

What the difference who's arming whom, it doesn't change the fact many people have never heard about Gaza before the 7/10,

and now become experts on what is going on there, and again, if you so can care about Gaza, why not have the same passion and conviction for other countries who are in just as much, or even worse situation than Gaza?

or is it has to do that in Gaza Jews are involved my 2-faced posters?

Is Israel sending aid to Sudan, Syria and other mentioned countries? Taking in refugees? Condemning war crimes? Or is it too busy bombing hospitals and cutting off food and water to a captive population?

If someone wants to shift the topic away from Gaza to "other places with suffering," fine, but let’s be honest. Israel isn’t stepping up as a moral leader elsewhere. In fact, its actions in Gaza are what brought so many people into the conversation in the first place.

You can’t ask why people care about Gaza and then ignore who’s dropping the bombs. If you want empathy to be universal, maybe start by applying that standard to Israel’s actions, not the people protesting them.

30 minutes ago, ezzra said:

What is it with you man? if you need the address to the nearest church just ask.

I can only imagine how difficult it must be to live under the constant shadow of threat ie the fear of rockets, the trauma of attacks, and the weight of national responsibility. No one denies Israel’s right to security. But true security can’t come at the cost of extinguishing another people.

If there's one thing your own sacred texts emphasize, it’s the importance of justice, compassion, and the protection of the stranger, even those who are not of your tribe. The idea of tikkun olam, repairing the world doesn’t stop at borders or ethnic lines. If anything, it begins where it’s hardest.

What's happening in Gaza isn’t just a military operation, it’s the destruction of a people, and it’s being watched by the entire world. You don’t have to agree with every criticism, but it’s impossible to deny that collective punishment, starvation, and leveling entire cities are not the path to peace, or moral high ground.

The future of Israel’s standing in the world depends not just on military strength, but on moral clarity. If this continues, it won’t just be Gaza that’s reduced to rubble, it will be Israel’s reputation for generations.

Faith, real faith, requires the courage to step back from vengeance and listen to the better angels of your tradition and the basic principles of international law. You can still demand justice without abandoning humanity.

You can't deny the lies that have been uncovered, for example, those killed medical workers and buried ambulances! You can't deny this is why Israel have denied foreign media into Gaza. 

31 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Because we, the west, have supported Israel for many years and now feel ashamed of Israeli actions.

As usual when you have no real answer you refer and assert antisemitism.

Really? how did you support the Jews when 6 million of them were led to the slaughter? How?

32 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Because we, the west, have supported Israel for many years and now feel ashamed of Israeli actions.

As usual when you have no real answer you refer and assert antisemitism.

So you're saying that there is no Antisemitism in the world? Do you? 

Israel should occupy Gaza, for now and for ever.

1 hour ago, Danny Australia said:

Israel may be able to occupy Gaza, but it will never extinguish the Palestinian people's aspiration and rightful claim to their own state. The world is increasingly aware of Israel's war crimes and its defiance of the international community.

 

 

They have their own state it's called Gaza, look what they did with it!

18 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Israel should occupy Gaza, for now and for ever.

Ethnic cleansing is your trolling card. 

17 minutes ago, proton said:

 

They have their own state it's called Gaza, look what they did with it!

 

Fixed it for you.

 

They have their own state it's called Gaza, look what Israel they did with it!

31 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

 

Fixed it for you.

 

They have their own state it's called Gaza, look what Israel they did with it!

 

Israel LEFT Gaza in 2006, Hamas were elected and their stated aim is to kill all Jews and destroy Israel. They embarked on non stop attacks ending in Oct 7th. They never seem to learn.

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

Because we, the west, have supported Israel for many years and now feel ashamed of Israeli actions.

As usual when you have no real answer you refer and assert antisemitism.

 

   European Countries now have a high Muslim population, Western leaders need to voice support for the Muslim side in order to get the Muslim vote in elections 

27 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Israel LEFT Gaza in 2006, Hamas were elected and their stated aim is to kill all Jews and destroy Israel. They embarked on non stop attacks ending in Oct 7th. They never seem to learn.

Misinformation, I guess you are conveniently talking about Hamas' 1988 Charter which is no more. Hamas distinguishes between Jews as a people and the Israeli state, stating their conflict is with Zionism and occupation, not Judaism as a religion. This clearly refutes the claim that their aim is simply to “kill all Jews.”

As for Israel “leaving” Gaza in 2005: it removed settlers and soldiers but kept total control over Gaza’s airspace, waters, borders, population registry, and trade. That’s not independence, it’s open-air incarceration. Even before October 7, Gaza was blockaded for nearly two decades, with regular bombardments, mass unemployment, and collapsing infrastructure -  Israel controlled all materials going in.

24 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   European Countries now have a high Muslim population, Western leaders need to voice support for the Muslim side in order to get the Muslim vote in elections 

If you're going to argue that European leaders support Palestinians just to win Muslim votes, then we should also talk about the United States and its consistent support for Israel, often in ways that go against international consensus and public opinion.

Why does the U.S. send billions in military aid to Israel every year, veto UN resolutions critical of its actions, and stand virtually alone in defending it diplomatically? Is that about votes, too, or something else?

Just now, Chris.C said:

If you're going to argue that European leaders support Palestinians just to win Muslim votes, then we should also talk about the United States and its consistent support for Israel, often in ways that go against international consensus and public opinion.

Why does the U.S. send billions in military aid to Israel every year, veto UN resolutions critical of its actions, and stand virtually alone in defending it diplomatically? Is that about votes, too, or something else?

 

   Why cant you focus on Muslims ?

Why do you need to turn it around to talk about Jews all the time ?

It will do you good to spent a few days without thinking about Jews .

Give it a go 

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Why cant you focus on Muslims ?

Why do you need to turn it around to talk about Jews all the time ?

It will do you good to spent a few days without thinking about Jews .

Give it a go 

If Israel stopped committing crimes, they’d not be in the news every single day.

It’s not Muslims who are planning the eradication of a whole area. It’s not Muslims who are expanding them illegal settlements.

Which part of ‘illegal’ do you not understand.

More than 500,000 illegal settlers are now living in the occupied West Bank, and some 220,000 others in East Jerusalem [File: Mussa Qawasma/Reuters]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/6/israel-pushes-for-more-illegal-settlements-in-occupied-west-bank-amid-raids
 

 

 

2 hours ago, ezzra said:

Really? how did you support the Jews when 6 million of them were led to the slaughter? How?

Erm, by defeating Nazi Germany, stopping the machinery of genocide. The liberation of the concentration camps, the Nuremberg Trials, the exposure of the atrocities , giving you your own country by kicking out a heap of Palestinians who you still haven't allowed back(rigth of return). Ignoring UN Resolution 194 (passed in 1948) states:
"…refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbors should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date…" 

Do you ever think for a moment that not allowing hundreds of thousands of refugees what they were promised had some part in the fight for freedom in Gaza?

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

Ethnic cleansing is your trolling card. 

The problem with cleansing Gaza is that no other middle eastern country likes nor trusts the Palestinians so they have nowhere else to go. Having said that they could always try the UK for whom open borders seems to be the order of the day.

5 hours ago, ezzra said:

To all of you bleeding hearts out there, why is it that no one mentions the war in the Sudan, (just to mention one hotspot of war and mass killings) where hundreds of thousands of people have been massacred by the notorious Janjaweed militia and famine is everywhere, or is it that posters here suffering from selective, myopic vision?

 

Your apparent concern for Sudan comes across as insincere. You can't excuse one genocide by deflecting attention to another.

 

6 hours ago, ezzra said:

So you're saying that there is no Antisemitism in the world? Do you? 

Making things up again.

Palestinians have little freedoms due to Israel, everything is blockaded, no ports, airports, can't leave, just trapped.  Israel created the freedom fighters called Hamas

On 8/7/2025 at 9:44 AM, Eric Loh said:

Palestinians do not support 100%. You spewing nonsense. Israel has already exerted their objective post 7/10 by destroying half of Hamas military personnel. The war has no end game. Netanyahu is just murdering innocent civilians and children. 

Those '' innocent civilians," as you put it, are the soldiers of Hamas, those civilians are sending their sons to join Hamas for monetary gains and if killed, to be martyrs, which for Muslims is the most coveted goal, so spare me the cry of Inocvent civilians will you?

On 8/28/2025 at 6:20 AM, sharksy said:

Palestinians have little freedoms due to Israel, everything is blockaded, no ports, airports, can't leave, just trapped.  Israel created the freedom fighters called Hamas

Go back to history books and read before writing such drivel, will you?

On 8/7/2025 at 4:05 PM, Danny Australia said:

 

Your apparent concern for Sudan comes across as insincere. You can't excuse one genocide by deflecting attention to another.

 

There more than the Sudan, there's the Sahel, Mozambique and Eastern Congo, just to name a few, where Jihadists are starving and massacring the local population, but here, in this esteemed forum, they only see Gaza, a cesspool of prescribed terrorists, right guys?

Israel has gone from the moral high ground in October 2023 to being universally viewed as a pariah.

 

I predicted this on this very forum in 2023. 

 

Those of you defending Israel here are doing yourselves no favours, what Israel is doing in Gaza & the West Bank, is indefensible.  My advice for you is to shut up and sit it out, you are just making yourselves look like right-wing extremists.

12 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Israel has gone from the moral high ground in October 2023 to being universally viewed as a pariah.

 

I predicted this on this very forum in 2023. 

 

Those of you defending Israel here are doing yourselves no favours, what Israel is doing in Gaza & the West Bank, is indefensible.  My advice for you is to shut up and sit it out, you are just making yourselves look like right-wing extremists.

 

   What should Israel have done in response to Oct 7 th ?

How should they have handled it ?

 

26 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   What should Israel have done in response to Oct 7 th ?

How should they have handled it ?

 

 

Proportionately!

5 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

Proportionately!

 

   Defeating Hamas is keeping it in proportion .

The war cannot end until Hamas have been defeated 

On 8/6/2025 at 10:41 AM, ezzra said:

This is the only way out of this situation as Hamas will never let the hostages go as they are the only ticket to their survival.

And so, with no other alternative, this is the only way out.

I'll bet when you are a lot younger you never thought you would become a supporter of genocide and the willful slaughter of women and children. One has to wonder what happened along the way.