2 hours ago, Peter Crow said:

 

Until they do. But then they will address the issue by making the use of PCs illegal for white skinned foreigners.

 

Just as they made mobile banking useless for us.

I can use mobile banking for 99.9% of my transfers.... I haven't spent (in a single transaction) >> 50K since our house finished construction.   Krungsri allows me to exceed 50K.

3 hours ago, Peter Crow said:

 

Until they do. But then they will address the issue by making the use of PCs illegal for white skinned foreigners.

 

Just as they made mobile banking useless for us.

After watching Thais faff around with their mobiles at checkouts, I have concluded mobile banking is not for me. I don't have to worry about scammers with cash in my pocket.

2 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Your ISP will shut down your internet connection immediately and they're ON that action 24 x 7.

The first time you must call them with hat in hand. Not sure what they do a second time but I'm sure those financial fines are on the menu.

VPN cures all that. Just make sure you have the kill switch on.

 

I've been using a private tracker since 2009. Never had a single issue. No VPN needed that way.

 

I have 4 invites if anyone is interested. Dm me

 

Could stream real debrid links through the likes of Kodi. Never had a malware issue and no buffering. RD costs but it's like 10 bucks for 3 months.

3 hours ago, MJCM said:

Absolutely. Here you will most certainly run very fast into ISP throttling and if that is not happening you will being put behind CGNAT so you can't share anything back.

 

Just commenting that as per the down votes its not been an issue for me since I started a couple of years ago - with or without a VPN......

And that is with True.

Download uTorrent, visit PirateBay (which by far has the most content). Install VPN.  That's it. Been doing it in Thailand for 15 years with no malware, etc. problems.  That is a good method to find specific things you want to find.

 

But if limited English television in Thailand is your problem, buy an Amazon Firestick off Lazada, install a VPN, and watch a plethora of English movies all day along (for free with advertising).

I can understand the perspective of some who might view it as stealing, but in my view the world is simply evolving.

It's human nature. People will share and discuss. I might share the contents of a CD that I own with friends. Is it then 'stealing' for him to share and discuss it with his friend? Could it be argued that me sharing it in the first place was stealing?

That would be viewed as draconian by the average person. People share. Even if it's just their bad mood 😊

Is taking the path of least resistance, stealing? 

In my case, I simply don't watch enough media to make it worth my while subscribing to anything. If there was some obscure documentary that I wanted to view, then I search for it and try to obtain it. What if I can only obtain it via Torrent? No sign of it on any 'official' outlet. Do I then tell myself that I should not be able to view the media until I can find it on a licenced website?

As a musician, of course I would like to make a living from my trade, but equally I would like as many people as possible to listen to and appreciate my message. What good is it if only one person can afford to buy your CD? Just one fan? 😊

So there is a natural evolution of these things.

What is perhaps frowned upon is people trying to monetise the sharing, especially without passing anything back to the creators.

So in answer to @Airalee's comment. It's not really just about whether you can afford it or not, it's just that if it is available at the local library, you can just borrow it from there. Path of least resistance.

I grew up that way. Went to the library to discover new artists.

That might lead me on to other things that I would buy from other places. This is natural behaviour. There is no intent to steal. Only sharing amongst ourselves.

The crackdowns are really on the people who  try to monetize the sharing without passing anything down the line.

Isn't that how it works in most places? 

People like myself, watching a doc or the odd series a couple of times annually are of no interest to law enforcement and that is the way it should be.

 

 

 

 

Will Smith was once asked if he didn't like the idea of sp many people pirating his movies. He said he made too much money already for what he did. And all the support staff in the film industry make decent wages. Us pirates are merely skimming a little of the cream and I'm sure that's built in to the cost of making movies.

Personal attack removed 

@Airalee polite and civil towards other forum members please.

13 hours ago, Lacessit said:

After watching Thais faff around with their mobiles at checkouts, I have concluded mobile banking is not for me. I don't have to worry about scammers with cash in my pocket.

Just ladyboys, muggers and pickpockets!

Shouldn't the entertainment biz pay us for watching/listening

to their "product" ?

13 minutes ago, gargamon said:

Because if you subscribed to all the services you'd be paying over $100/month.

 

There's no need to be subscribed to everything. You can usually pay a monthly sub, so a few months with Netflix, then a few months with Prime etc. etc. Work your way through what you want to watch on one service, then change to another when you're done. It would take most people a long time to watch everything of interest.

 

15 minutes ago, gargamon said:

Each service has a couple of watchable movies.

 

Most people will find more than a couple of movies worth watching. Prime has TV series as well as movies.

It's not like going into McDonalds at all. That's not an intelligent analogy. 

No one should buy nor even want to eat such things 😊 That should be a crime. But what can you do? People are different.

I already gave a case scenario of being a musician and also the example of going into a library and borrowing books and CDs...

McDonalds foods are perishable. Not that easy to share in the long term. You need to buy it and eat it in a short period of time. Nothing stopping you from sharing it. But you can still share it. Is it stealing because you have shared it, thereby preventing that possible extra sale?

What about if you created a cloning device, made millions of McDonalds hamburgers from the one you bought and then gave them all out for free?

Can you see the issue?

 

4 minutes ago, gargamon said:

No problem. I will.

60,000+ songs in my music collection. 1000+ movies, hundreds of tv series. All free and portable so I can watch them anywhere, even without internet... And encrypted so I can carry it all anywhere...

Fabulous.

1 minute ago, JakeC said:

It's not like going into McDonalds at all. That's not an intelligent analogy. 

No one should buy nor even want to eat such things 😊 That should be a crime. But what can you do? People are different.

I already gave a case scenario of being a musician and also the example of going into a library and borrowing books and CDs...

McDonalds foods are perishable. Not that easy to share in the long term. You need to buy it and eat it in a short period of time. Nothing stopping you from sharing it. But you can still share it. Is it stealing because you have shared it, thereby preventing that possible extra sale?

What about if you created a cloning device, made millions of McDonalds hamburgers from the one you bought and then gave them all out for free?

Can you see the issue?

 

You keep saying “sharing” like you’re some sort of wonderfully generous person.

 

Comparing something like Pirate Bay with a public library is completely disingenuous.

11 hours ago, Airalee said:

Remember how much a VHS tape would cost to buy?   Movies used to be $60+     Now you can buy a movie for $5 or less.  $10 a month for Netflix?  Ridiculously cheap.  Media is sold for such an insignificant price these days…but….people like their “free stuff” and will pull all kinds of lame excuses out of their a** to justify stealing.   And for such a small amount too.

 

I stopped buying DVDs or CDs or any media because I move around too much.

 

I was happy to pay whatever Blockbuster was charging, popping in on Friday evenings to see what was on the shelves. It was good fun. Yes, the Netflix model is cheap enough that we shouldn't have to torrent. Way cheaper than weekly rentals at Blockbuster. 

 

Maybe the odd exception might be a really hard to find old film that you really want to get your hands on that isn't on Netflix. 

 

More troll posts and the troll removed.

Getting angry doesn't make your view stronger, it only gives us view of the veins popping out from your skull.

Why is Pirate Bay not a library? The library buys the book and then shares it. The downloader is simply borrowing it.

That is why the industry focused initially on Uploaders, in order to stop them sharing it in the first place. But if you have purchased it legitimately...

Then you can create a library.

To be honest, I am not arguing for nor against, but simply demonstrating that it is not just a question of opposite views. If you kill human spirit, you kill humanity. We share. No good having all the food and resources as the last man left on earth.

If a clause is not reasonable, no one is likely to stick with it and it will fail. People are going to share.

 

Let's look at Bitcoin as an example. Some ranted about it, calling it a scam. The thought of a change in the status quo caused panic in some quarters, with attempts to destroy it as a means of exchange.  Even the current POTUS called it a scam and a hoax. He seems to have changed his tune on that one. 😊

Some of us just ignore the noise and carry on as normal.  Not quite so susceptible to every change in the direction of the wind.

 

 

Torrenting is so 90s, it's not necessary anymore. You can simply download any TV Series or Film from dedicated websites in mp4 format, and with super fast internet.

 

That's much easier and safer than using Torrent.

It's again not particularly intelligent to make such definitive statements when you have absolutely no evidence with which to back it up.

Please, if you can, show how it is safer. Please, if you can, demonstrate how it is faster. Please, if you can, demonstrate how it is better.

 

If you really had any knowledge at all, you might understand they can be synergetic. But I suspect that you are just being silly, in order to provoke a response. Why not enter the conversation more thoughtfully?

 

17 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

That's much easier and safer than using Torrent.

How is a torrent unsafe?

Been torrenting here for 15 years with zero problems, and no VPN.

20 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Any risk of malware / viruses when torrenting? 

Of course there is. You have to know what you are doing.

Easier to stream IMO

 

https://fmhy.net/ 

 

is a Great resource

No, it's not easier to use a website dedicated to streaming. Again, it can all be part of the same process.

19 hours ago, jvs said:

What are the benefits of using a VPN?

I always torrent without.

It depends on your ISP. I was with CAT, and later NT (CAT and TOT amalgamation), and was always fast with no VPN. I moved to an area where True Fiber is my only option, and found my downloading speed was being throttled. Using a VPN doubled the speed.

23 minutes ago, Digitalbanana said:

Of course there is. You have to know what you are doing.

There's little risk if you use uploaders with a high reputation (on PirateBay). Choose them carefully and get to know the good ones. Don't download torrents from anonymous sources. I also use a private torrenting site.

38 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

How is a torrent unsafe?

 

Bit Torrent networks are monitored, as they are widely known. Everyone knows Pirate Bay. Nobody knows the sites I use to download MP4 files, or in any event far fewer people.

 

By default torrenting is not private, as you use a P2P network and you're basically downloading from a host of other users.

 

I privately download in one hit from one website and one server. Much safer.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Bit Torrent networks are monitored, as they are widely known. Everyone knows Pirate Bay. Nobody knows the sites I use to download MP4 files, or in any event far fewer people.

 

By default torrenting is not private, as you use a P2P network and you're basically downloading from a host of other users.

 

I privately download in one hit from one website and one server. Much safer.

None of that explained how torrents are unsafe.

51 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Torrenting is so 90s, it's not necessary anymore. You can simply download any TV Series or Film from dedicated websites in mp4 format, and with super fast internet.

 

That's much easier and safer than using Torrent.

Name one place where I can get all of the following without torrenting:

Latest season of Wednesday Part 1

Colbert's latest episode of The Late Show

Naked Gun trilogy

Spider Baby 1967 (Comedy.Horror)

Bad Santa 2003

Hill Street Blues The Complete Series 1981-1987