Hello everyone,
 

I need a dental implant, so I contacted a dental clinic I had used last year.

I explained that, following an initial appointment to determine the necessary procedures and set up a treatment schedule, I would need a medical certificate to support a visa application.

The certificate should ideally include:

• The nature of the treatment (e.g., dental implant with crown restoration)

• The estimated duration (e.g., 6 to 9 months)

• Confirmation that multiple appointments and follow-ups are required (e.g., for osseointegration, crown placement, and post-op checkups)

• My full name and the dentist’s, along with the date, their signature, and the clinic’s stamp

• Ideally, the clinic’s license or registration number, if available

The clinic replied that, as a clinic, they are not authorized to issue medical certificates, and that I should contact a hospital instead.
 

Does this response seem normal to you? Has anyone encountered something like this before?

Thank you!

10 minutes ago, anotherfarangishere said:

I should contact a hospital instead.

Sounds right. Contact a hospital for your dental procedure, hospitals do those here.

33 minutes ago, anotherfarangishere said:

Hello everyone,
 

I need a dental implant, so I contacted a dental clinic I had used last year.

I explained that, following an initial appointment to determine the necessary procedures and set up a treatment schedule, I would need a medical certificate to support a visa application.

The certificate should ideally include:

• The nature of the treatment (e.g., dental implant with crown restoration)

• The estimated duration (e.g., 6 to 9 months)

• Confirmation that multiple appointments and follow-ups are required (e.g., for osseointegration, crown placement, and post-op checkups)

• My full name and the dentist’s, along with the date, their signature, and the clinic’s stamp

• Ideally, the clinic’s license or registration number, if available

The clinic replied that, as a clinic, they are not authorized to issue medical certificates, and that I should contact a hospital instead.
 

Does this response seem normal to you? Has anyone encountered something like this before?

Thank you!

Yes

No.  Of course it is not normal.  A dental clinic can give you exactly the document you need and many have for DTV visas.  

I think it's your use of the word "certificate" that is the problem.  That sounds too official.  You need everything you stated, and likely more than just confirmation of multiple appointments, you need to have those multiple appointments booked already.  But that doesn't have to be a "certificate" it just needs to be proof of those items.

No wonder some folk view DTV as a scam. Introduced by MFA.

 

A dental implant would require couple of visits within few days. 

 

Here is soft power medical requirements.

A joke that an implant can provide multi entry visa for 5 years. 

 

2 hours ago, anotherfarangishere said:

I would need a medical certificate to support a visa application.

 

What you've described is a treatment plan, not a medical certificate. Ask them for a treatment plan and they might be able to accommodate you.

13 hours ago, Caldera said:

. Ask them for a treatment plan and they might be able to accommodate you.

Indeed the dental clinic can provide a fictitious 6 month dental plan for single dental implant. 

Mind you no follow up appointments beyond few weeks would in reality be required. 

36 minutes ago, Caldera said:

 

What you've described is a treatment plan, not a medical certificate. Ask them for a treatment plan and they might be able to accommodate you.

Yes, me too I thought that maybe the problem could be the term "medical certificate".

4 minutes ago, anotherfarangishere said:

Yes, me too I thought that maybe the problem could be the term "medical certificate".

There are MANY threads and resources on the net to answer your basic question. 

Along with pinned DTV threads on this forum. 

Some basic research is simple. 

Removed two off-topic posts and the replies thereto.

9 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

No wonder some folk view DTV as a scam. Introduced by MFA.

 

A dental implant would require couple of visits within few days. 

 

Here is soft power medical requirements.

A joke that an implant can provide multi entry visa for 5 years. 

 

It's not a scam, it is a decision by the MFA to offer a five year multiple entry visa even for short term soft power activities or medical reasons.  The MFA knows exactly what they are offering.  For some reason you, and others, don't like that.  I don't know why.   Jealous?  Annoyed that it is easier for some other people than it was for you?  (And an implant often does require a number of follow up visits, especially if a sinus lift or bone implant is required.)

On 8/7/2025 at 3:53 PM, DrJack54 said:

A dental implant would require couple of visits within few days.

 

Mine was over several months as required bone graft (common requirement) which requires 3 to 6 months to bed in.

2 hours ago, treetops said:

 

Mine was over several months as required bone graft (common requirement) which requires 3 to 6 months to bed in.

Indeed. Brain fade on my behalf. 

Was thinking of a crown procedure which I had years back. 

Crown v implant = apples v oranges. 

The dental clinic can provide a treatment plan over several months for the OP. 

 

In the early days of the DTV, a Russian guy posted here, he was doing pretty much the same as OP (several dental appointments over some period of time, in a dental clinic). He got his DTV with the papers from the clinic. 

I think it was @Tim K

On 8/7/2025 at 7:44 PM, anotherfarangishere said:

Hello everyone,
 

I need a dental implant, so I contacted a dental clinic I had used last year.

I explained that, following an initial appointment to determine the necessary procedures and set up a treatment schedule, I would need a medical certificate to support a visa application.

The certificate should ideally include:

• The nature of the treatment (e.g., dental implant with crown restoration)

• The estimated duration (e.g., 6 to 9 months)

• Confirmation that multiple appointments and follow-ups are required (e.g., for osseointegration, crown placement, and post-op checkups)

• My full name and the dentist’s, along with the date, their signature, and the clinic’s stamp

• Ideally, the clinic’s license or registration number, if available

The clinic replied that, as a clinic, they are not authorized to issue medical certificates, and that I should contact a hospital instead.
 

Does this response seem normal to you? Has anyone encountered something like this before?

Thank you!

Being a dentist myself and even running at Dental Clinic in Pattaya for quite some time now, I can tell you that your clinic acted correctly.

It would probably not have been a problem to get a quotation from them and even a confirmation about the scheduled appointments.

But we do not have the permission to issue any kind of official certificate.

 

Once a patient of mine insisted on me issuing that certificate trying to somehow make me feel guilty, by asking why I would refuse to help him, as helping people is the core of my job reminding me of my oath.

I thanked him for farangsplaining my job to me and asked him to get some official printed form from the immigration which I would only have to fill in and sign plus any kind of written proof, that normal clinics in the private sector are allowed to do that.

 

I'm still waiting for those documents.

 

As far as I know he got his Visa by presenting a certificate from some Chef School for Thai food which makes much more sense as you have to attend classes practically 5 days a week for months while any kind of implant surgery even if bone grafts are included require just a few appointments with long time periods between them. Presenting documents from a clinic which has no legal permission to issue them might get you into trouble and the clinic as well. You should not feel disappointed about your dentist, you should thank him.

Cheers

2 hours ago, Somjot said:

Being a dentist myself and even running at Dental Clinic in Pattaya for quite some time now, I can tell you that your clinic acted correctly.

It would probably not have been a problem to get a quotation from them and even a confirmation about the scheduled appointments.

But we do not have the permission to issue any kind of official certificate.

 

Once a patient of mine insisted on me issuing that certificate trying to somehow make me feel guilty, by asking why I would refuse to help him, as helping people is the core of my job reminding me of my oath.

I thanked him for farangsplaining my job to me and asked him to get some official printed form from the immigration which I would only have to fill in and sign plus any kind of written proof, that normal clinics in the private sector are allowed to do that.

 

I'm still waiting for those documents.

 

As far as I know he got his Visa by presenting a certificate from some Chef School for Thai food which makes much more sense as you have to attend classes practically 5 days a week for months while any kind of implant surgery even if bone grafts are included require just a few appointments with long time periods between them. Presenting documents from a clinic which has no legal permission to issue them might get you into trouble and the clinic as well. You should not feel disappointed about your dentist, you should thank him.

Cheers

The likelihood of a Thai specialist dentist with his own practice wasting his time on here is zero. Two possibilities; 1) Trolling the troll or 2) The troll trolling himself. Knowing about your multiple 'personalities' I would choose option 2.

On 8/18/2025 at 3:55 PM, Somjot said:

Being a dentist myself and even running at Dental Clinic in Pattaya for quite some time now, I can tell you that your clinic acted correctly.

It would probably not have been a problem to get a quotation from them and even a confirmation about the scheduled appointments.

But we do not have the permission to issue any kind of official certificate. ...

... asked him to get some official printed form from the immigration which I would only have to fill in and sign

 

Immigration do not handle DTVs - are given by consulates in other countries. 

His idea of "certificate" is likely just a misunderstanding on his part.   He just needed a written treatment-plan.  This could be provided, including some payment up-front - so, not wasting your time, and a payment-receipt also supporting his application. 

You would not be doing anything wrong/illegal to provide this, which is what others have used to get DTVs.  The DTV specifically outlines ongoing medical treatments as a reason for the visa. 

Just now, Rob Browder said:

 

Immigration do not handle DTVs - are given by consulates in other countries. 

His idea of "certificate" is likely just a misunderstanding on his part.   He just needed a written treatment-plan.  This could be provided, including some payment up-front - so, not wasting your time, and a payment-receipt also supporting his application. 

You would not be doing anything wrong/illegal to provide this, which is what others have used to get DTVs.  The DTV specifically outlines ongoing medical treatments as a reason for the visa. 

 

On 8/18/2025 at 3:55 PM, Somjot said:

any kind of implant surgery even if bone grafts are included require just a few appointments with long time periods between them.

... and folks do not want to spend that time flying 1/2 way around the world, or in Cambodia (where staying and spending money into their economy is not blocked by stupid immigration hurdles).

On 8/18/2025 at 6:17 PM, The Fugitive said:

The likelihood of a Thai specialist dentist with his own practice wasting his time on here is zero. Two possibilities; 1) Trolling the troll or 2) The troll trolling himself. Knowing about your multiple 'personalities' I would choose option 2.

 

Yeah, what was I thinking, trying to outsmart an educated psychiatrist like you, who perfectly diagnosed my dissociative identity disorder. I guess the oxygen levels in my Mama`s basement are a bit low, since she installed that new heater.

 

2 hours ago, Rob Browder said:

 

Immigration do not handle DTVs - are given by consulates in other countries. 

His idea of "certificate" is likely just a misunderstanding on his part.   He just needed a written treatment-plan.  This could be provided, including some payment up-front - so, not wasting your time, and a payment-receipt also supporting his application. 

You would not be doing anything wrong/illegal to provide this, which is what others have used to get DTVs.  The DTV specifically outlines ongoing medical treatments as a reason for the visa. 

 

At no point have I mentioned that I was wasting my time. All I wrote is, that I cannot and will not hand out any certificate or confirmation for official use as long as do not get any written form from that authority exactly describing what kind of information I have to provide and that I am authorized to do that.

 

Any written and signed statement from a medic is like a document and you have to take responsibility for it.

 

You have no idea, what people demanded from me in the past. One asked me to write a confirmation that some work his previous dentist had performed was crap. Another wanted a certificate that he was allergic to vaccines. To any kind of vaccine.

 

Normally when you need some official work done, you`ll get some list of documents which you`ll have to provide and if a medical certificate is asked for, there is normally a form.

 

For renewing my doctor`s license every year I need among other things a medical certificate, stating that I do not have Syphilis, tuberculosis and elephantiasis (no joke). It is a preprinted from, which a doctor has to fill and stamp (they never checked for elephantiasis though).

 

I cannot just walk into a doctors clinic and tell him to certify whatever I want. 

 

Why should they refuse, what the OP asked for, risking to lose a good implant patient?

 

So again, provide the official papers, with the correct form or at least some official list stating what I should certify plus that I am authorized to do it, and I`ll gladly help you. No prepayment upfront needed.  I only charge, what I have performed. As for certificates, I`ve never asked my patients for more than to buy me a beer.

 

 

2 hours ago, Rob Browder said:

 

... and folks do not want to spend that time flying 1/2 way around the world, or in Cambodia (where staying and spending money into their economy is not blocked by stupid immigration hurdles).

 

I can`t confirm that. Many people would do anything to stay here as long as possible.

 

However, those who wouldn't normally get their surgery and come back 3 months or more later for the crowns.

 

Seriously, I was just trying to provide some useful information to contribute to the forum.

 

Why do I have to face all that negativity?

 

 

 

By the way, @The Fugitive I never wrote, I was THAI.

 

If I prove you wrong, would you have the decency to apologize for your wrong allegations? Plus explain my "multiple" personalities.

 

On 8/20/2025 at 1:11 AM, Somjot said:

I cannot just walk into a doctors clinic and tell him to certify whatever I want. 

 

Why should they refuse, what the OP asked for, risking to lose a good implant patient?

 

So again, provide the official papers, with the correct form or at least some official list stating what I should certify plus that I am authorized to do it, and I`ll gladly help you. No prepayment upfront needed.  I only charge, what I have performed. As for certificates, I`ve never asked my patients for more than to buy me a beer.

As I said, the guy threw you off with "certificate" - when all he needed was documentation of planned medical work.  I understand your desire to avoid legal-jepoardy - but writing-up a schedule of medical work would not incur that risk. 

 

If you are worried about  ...

On 8/20/2025 at 1:11 AM, Somjot said:

Many people would do anything to stay here as long as possible.

... then you could request pre-payment - or not - up to you. 

 

In any case, I hope you now know that the next guy who comes in wanting to do implants and get a DTV - which is marketed by the MFA for this - doesn't need some "official certificate."   So, you get their business, and can help boost employment for other Thais with your patient's spending here between procedures.  It's a "win win" for Thailand.

On 8/20/2025 at 1:11 AM, Somjot said:

 

Yeah, what was I thinking, trying to outsmart an educated psychiatrist like you, who perfectly diagnosed my dissociative identity disorder. I guess the oxygen levels in my Mama`s basement are a bit low, since she installed that new heater.

 

 

At no point have I mentioned that I was wasting my time. All I wrote is, that I cannot and will not hand out any certificate or confirmation for official use as long as do not get any written form from that authority exactly describing what kind of information I have to provide and that I am authorized to do that.

 

Any written and signed statement from a medic is like a document and you have to take responsibility for it.

 

You have no idea, what people demanded from me in the past. One asked me to write a confirmation that some work his previous dentist had performed was crap. Another wanted a certificate that he was allergic to vaccines. To any kind of vaccine.

 

Normally when you need some official work done, you`ll get some list of documents which you`ll have to provide and if a medical certificate is asked for, there is normally a form.

 

For renewing my doctor`s license every year I need among other things a medical certificate, stating that I do not have Syphilis, tuberculosis and elephantiasis (no joke). It is a preprinted from, which a doctor has to fill and stamp (they never checked for elephantiasis though).

 

I cannot just walk into a doctors clinic and tell him to certify whatever I want. 

 

Why should they refuse, what the OP asked for, risking to lose a good implant patient?

 

So again, provide the official papers, with the correct form or at least some official list stating what I should certify plus that I am authorized to do it, and I`ll gladly help you. No prepayment upfront needed.  I only charge, what I have performed. As for certificates, I`ve never asked my patients for more than to buy me a beer.

 

 

 

I can`t confirm that. Many people would do anything to stay here as long as possible.

 

However, those who wouldn't normally get their surgery and come back 3 months or more later for the crowns.

 

Seriously, I was just trying to provide some useful information to contribute to the forum.

 

Why do I have to face all that negativity?

 

 

 

By the way, @The Fugitive I never wrote, I was THAI.

 

If I prove you wrong, would you have the decency to apologize for your wrong allegations? Plus explain my "multiple" personalities.

 

 

This is what a member needed for his DTV (nowhere near an official "certificate"):

 

"receipt dated 3 Aug from small dental clinic for some dental work, with a note
that next dental appointment will be 21 Sep
making a mold for dentures and next 21 Oct fitting the freshly made dentures
wet stamp and signed by cashier. I do really need the dentures, all was real."
 

On 8/21/2025 at 5:09 PM, Rob Browder said:

As I said, the guy threw you off with "certificate" - when all he needed was documentation of planned medical work.  I understand your desire to avoid legal-jepoardy - but writing-up a schedule of medical work would not incur that risk. 

 

If you are worried about  ...

... then you could request pre-payment - or not - up to you. 

 

In any case, I hope you now know that the next guy who comes in wanting to do implants and get a DTV - which is marketed by the MFA for this - doesn't need some "official certificate."   So, you get their business, and can help boost employment for other Thais with your patient's spending here between procedures.  It's a "win win" for Thailand.

 

No offence, but when it comes to deciding whether to issue certain "certificates" or "documentations" for patients I`d rather follow my lawyer`s advice and what I have learned when preparing for the Thai dental board exam than to anything I read in an internet forum with all those "specialists".

 

Anyone asking me for some "certificate" will have to show me a form from the authorities, stating what I have to certify plus that I am legally allowed to do that.

 

But if anyone asks for a written treatment plan including his data, my and my clinics details and License / registration number, the kind of treatment and all the pre reserved appointments I`d have no problem to hand out that.

 

If you don`t mind

 

 

I`d like to keep it that way

 

16 hours ago, Somjot said:

Anyone asking me for some "certificate"

... is misinformed.  They don't need a "certificate."  I don't expect my dentist to know immigration / visa procedures, of course.  But, now you know.