I'm looking to replace my existing Lenovo Legion. Initially when I replace I always look at the reviews (PC Mag, Tech Radar etc).

I do not want a Chromebook and it seems that many reviewers are pushing devices with the Snapdragon processors but I have heard that not all apps will run on this processor.

Anyone have experience with a device using Snapdragon?

Thanks

56 minutes ago, Negita43 said:

but I have heard that not all apps will run on this processor.

Can you not just make sure you get an AMD/Intel processor machine?

Just now, topt said:

Can you not just make sure you get an AMD/Intel processor machine?

Sorry that's not the question my Lenovo Legion is already an AMD cpu I just want to know if anyone has experience with a Snapdragon based device 

2 hours ago, Negita43 said:

Anyone have experience with a device using Snapdragon?

Unfortunately yes. Microsoft Windows 11 ARM edition works well, so does Microsoft Office. Printing fails. Antivirus doesn't work. Most of the rest of the software either can't be installed or fails to work when you run it.

 

For now, I'd say stay away.

1 hour ago, tomazbodner said:

For now, I'd say stay away.

Thanks I will - but there seems to be a big push on reviewers recommending  Snapdragon notebooks. I hope your issues get resolved soon but I'll stick with Intel or AMD (probably) for now

I would not get a snapdragon CPU for a laptop.

 

You mentioned Lenovo, and so Lenovo makes ThinkPads.

And, I will get a ThinkPad if I ever buy a new laptop.

 

So, I would say, go for something like the Intel Core Ultra 7.

 

But, I think I might try the ThinkPad X1.

But, I would try to buy it from China.

Or, maybe the THinkPad P16s Gen 4 with an AMD CPU.

I don't care that it is big and heavy, and big is a plus for me.

 

If I decide to get a new laptop, I will choose ThinkPad from Lenovo (formerly IBM built)...

And I will expect it to last me one decade, same as the Acer I have now has lasted me 11 years.

 

Also, I will buy without OS, and will install openSUSE Leep 16, for free.

 

ThinkPads run very well on SUSE OS..

 

 

8 hours ago, Negita43 said:

Thanks I will - but there seems to be a big push on reviewers recommending  Snapdragon notebooks. I hope your issues get resolved soon but I'll stick with Intel or AMD (probably) for now

Most reviews are sponsored...

8 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

I would not get a snapdragon CPU for a laptop.

 

You mentioned Lenovo, and so Lenovo makes ThinkPads.

And, I will get a ThinkPad if I ever buy a new laptop.

 

So, I would say, go for something like the Intel Core Ultra 7.

 

But, I think I might try the ThinkPad X1.

But, I would try to buy it from China.

Or, maybe the THinkPad P16s Gen 4 with an AMD CPU.

I don't care that it is big and heavy, and big is a plus for me.

 

If I decide to get a new laptop, I will choose ThinkPad from Lenovo (formerly IBM built)...

And I will expect it to last me one decade, same as the Acer I have now has lasted me 11 years.

 

Also, I will buy without OS, and will install openSUSE Leep 16, for free.

 

ThinkPads run very well on SUSE OS..

 

 

I see your legacy love for Intel, but unfortunately Intel was left in the dust by AMD now. Intel is far behind in silicon fabrication technology as their own foundry isn't very good compared to TSMC where AMD and NVidia make their gear (and so does Qualcomm). AMD Ryzen with Zen5 architecture are built on a much smaller technology than even the latest Intel Core Ultra processors, which translates to higher speeds at lower power consumption.

 

For a longer lifespan, stick to AMD and avoid budget models. Budget models are the ones that don't even have a series name... Model is just like 14fdksj. The "premium" models last much longer, which at Lenovo would be ThinkPad, at Dell say XPS, at Asus ZenBook, at HP Envy or Elite or ZBook... Actually HP makes it the easiest to see whether something is a premium product or not. The basic models have a round HP logo, premium products have these 4 sticks as a logo... Take the one with 4 sticks.

3 hours ago, tomazbodner said:

legacy love for Intel

 

Yes.

I totally agree.

And, it is a very sad thing, meaning what one single bad actor can do to a great company.

Anytime you get away from engineering in a great tech company, then bad things surely happen.

Case in point would be that....

 

BAD CHEF at Apple...what's his face....Tim Cook, the Greedy Bean Counter.

He ruined Apple products by overpricing and under-performing, and also making it impossible for the user to cheaply and easily upgrade on RAM, and other things.

Bunch of Control Freaks, at Apple, from the beginning.

But, the bad chef, COOK, does not understand what engineering is all about, and probably engineering and design is not his core interest, and neither are Apple's customers.

 

So, this is the RECIPE for DISASTER, when some non-engineer NITWIT takes over a great company from engineers.

 

And, I agree with you about INTEL, these days.

I am full of nostalgia.

Yet, once in a while, INTEL still comes up with a great CPU, and I have one in computer.

 

I need a new ThinkPad, and I will shop around for however long it takes to find what I am looking for, which is 32GB RAM, and a 16-inch display, although I always feel that BIGGER IS BETTER, for my purposes, because I don't carry it around, much, and plan to use it mostly for POWER-OUTAGES, which we enjoy, aplenty in these parts.

 

Also, long-battery resiliency is required for longer-than-usual zero-power periods, of which there are a few, meaning up to about 4 hours.

 

SO BACK TO THE QUESTION AT HAND, which was the question posed in the HEADLINE of this glorious Topic....

 

What is the best way to continue video-conferencing when the power suddenly ceases????

 

a. Use a quiet battery-backup for the 3BB internet router, connected to my house, which sits on one of my huge desks???

 

b. Just try to forgo powering the router, and use some sort of mobile service from AIS???

 

C.  But, I also don't trust the reliability of this mobile garbage here, compared to that of Korea, Japan, and China, for example....OR, IS MY FEAR misplaced?

 

Can I TRULY (never use True) get very fast and reliable internet connection using AIS for my laptop, using some AIS service, which will be just as good, or better, than the 3BB-router-ethernet connection which I always use, when the gods see fit to bless me with electricity?

 

This is a major question for me, since why buy a laptop if, after making the purchase, I learn that the mobile reliability in my area stinks, or that....even when I power up the router using battery, I get no reliable signal from the fiber???

 

This would become just a waste of time and money....

 

And, better to just sit in the dark, or pace back and forth, rather than to throw money away on a project that has no chance of success, in this environment.

 

 

snapdragon are used extensively in most cell phones so there is little concern regarding the reliability of them functioning,,,,

 

now Snapper Heads are another story ....... 

55 minutes ago, NickyLouie said:

snapdragon are used extensively in most cell phones so there is little concern regarding the reliability of them functioning,,,,

 

now Snapper Heads are another story ....... 

And if you were talking about having one in Android phone, I'd fully agree. But having one inside a Windows laptop...

3 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

SO BACK TO THE QUESTION AT HAND, which was the question posed in the HEADLINE of this glorious Topic....

 

What is the best way to continue video-conferencing when the power suddenly ceases????

 

No it wasn't.  This is a thread about snapdragon processors.

Just now, treetops said:

 

No it wasn't.  This is a thread about snapdragon processors.

 

Correct.

My error.

Sorry.

Bad mistake, but still just due to oversight on my part.

 

A Snapdragon laptop will have all the benefits and limitations of a mobile phone.  If used for business, there will be some compatibility issues with MS Office programs .... especially Excel.  While you can view documents and do basic editing, some functionality will be missing.

 

If you only web browsing, video conferencing, email, social media App messages, video streaming and viewing docs, it will be fine, and sometimes better than a AMD or Intel laptop, but for any business use it will be frustrating.

 

By the way ..... what's with the 'thumbs down' for the initial posts?  Is this a strange way to indicate that it's not a good idea to have a snapdragon laptop?

The Snapdragon processor is the standard. And you will find it in your smart phone. I would not buy a PC if it was not Snapdragon CPU unless there was something superior which I don't think is out there.

8 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

He ruined Apple products by overpricing and under-performing, and also making it impossible for the

Have you even used an M1, M2, M3, or M4-powered Mac lately?    The M chips outperform the Intel chips. 

14 hours ago, Kinnock said:

A Snapdragon laptop will have all the benefits and limitations of a mobile phone.  If used for business, there will be some compatibility issues with MS Office programs .... especially Excel.  While you can view documents and do basic editing, some functionality will be missing

 

It's my understanding that Office 365, and indeed virtually all Microsoft software is fully compatible with ARM processors.

 

Can you give some examples of missing functionality of the ARM versions?

2 hours ago, JayClay said:

 

It's my understanding that Office 365, and indeed virtually all Microsoft software is fully compatible with ARM processors.

 

Can you give some examples of missing functionality of the ARM versions?

Excel macros and formulas have issues.  Also, the sheets do not display correctly if they have some fancy formatting.

 

PowerPoint lacks some features.

 

That's just what I've noticed when working on my phone (Note 20).

6 hours ago, Kinnock said:

Excel macros and formulas have issues.  Also, the sheets do not display correctly if they have some fancy formatting.

 

PowerPoint lacks some features.

 

That's just what I've noticed when working on my phone (Note 20).

 

Those are the Android/mobile versions of the Microsoft Office Suite.

 

The Windows ARM versions are (again as far as I'm aware) feature complete.