43 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

I am going to the States soon, will be landing at JFK Airport in New York and renting a car, heading up to Canada to see my family, then touring around the northeast a bit.  I will let you all know about the proto-fascism I experience and any other juicy details. 

At the moment, I am just having a bit of sticker shock over the price of things, especially restaurant foods. In Toronto, lunch at a Chinese buffet (The Mandarin Restaurant) is $26, plus drinks tax and tip. Same price for a simple souvlaki lunch in a Greek family restaurant.  Think I may be eating a lot of Walmart take-out food...

Well, I'm sure you won't experience any problems with inflation in the US. The current president said he was going to solve that problem on day 1 of his term. Anyway, I'm sure you'll enjoy the fascism.

Yes, USA is now the most hated country in the world, apart from a few Muslim s.holes such as Iran and Afghanistan.Well done Donald.

On 8/27/2025 at 11:39 AM, Will B Good said:

 

Yes, the only real attraction I see is the National parks......whilst they last???

Unless you're a golfer as Trump wants to convert National parks into golf courses. And of course, Trump will become the Grand Master of those parks.

2 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Well, I'm sure you won't experience any problems with inflation in the US. The current president said he was going to solve that problem on day 1 of his term. Anyway, I'm sure you'll enjoy the fascism.

Inflation has been bad for 5 years now. Getting better year by year at least. The big problem will be currency devaluation. My precious yen have devalued by 40% in the past 5 years!  Used to be 100 to the usd, now hitting 147. 

51 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

Unless you're a golfer as Trump wants to convert National parks into golf courses. And of course, Trump will become the Grand Master of those parks.

He does? Where did you hear that horse hockey?

When officials at the border scan your telefon and find some negative notes about Trump or his baboon friends and then cancel your visa and deport you.....why would anyone go to a monkey state like the usa??? A den of morons!!😫🤮

45 minutes ago, harryviking said:

When officials at the border scan your telefon and find some negative notes about Trump or his baboon friends and then cancel your visa and deport you.....why would anyone go to a monkey state like the usa??? A den of morons!!😫🤮

Wow... that happens to a lot of people, does it? I dont need a visa, so nothing to worry about I guess. 

8 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Wow... that happens to a lot of people, does it? I dont need a visa, so nothing to worry about I guess. 

Such an empathetic guy you are. Pity you dont take the time to think about those in America in the hospitality and travel business. Tourists coming to America is off over 15% and its just going to get worse. Europeans, Asians other than Indians, and Canadians are giving it a miss. Expensive, and dangerous. Thanks Donald you are taking the greatest country in the world apart piece by peace without even having a clue. 

25 minutes ago, marin said:

Such an empathetic guy you are. Pity you dont take the time to think about those in America in the hospitality and travel business. Tourists coming to America is off over 15% and its just going to get worse. Europeans, Asians other than Indians, and Canadians are giving it a miss. Expensive, and dangerous. Thanks Donald you are taking the greatest country in the world apart piece by peace without even having a clue. 

 

^ You simply can not be that freaking thick. 

On 8/27/2025 at 10:39 AM, impulse said:

If a transitory drop in foreign tourism is the price for cleaning up the Biden border disaster (and saving the US taxpayers a couple of hundred $$ billion a year), most voters see it as an unfortunate but necessary price to pay.  It'll come back around as tourists traveling to Europe get stabbed by their asylum seekers.

 

I suggest you watch Cheech's masterpiece Born in East LA if you think it's specific to Trump.  That movie came out 38 years ago.

 

 

 

interesting how you always turn trump's stupidity into something created by biden. Post some links to support biden being the cause of all the illegals coming into the US, if you can. It happen over decades under both parties including trump's first debacle in office. 

Not so many people want to visit the land where they might be senselesslly arrested by Trump version of Gestapo AKA ICE.

 

US of A, now looks so different from what I have known in 1970-80s...

2 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Inflation has been bad for 5 years now. Getting better year by year at least. The big problem will be currency devaluation. My precious yen have devalued by 40% in the past 5 years!  Used to be 100 to the usd, now hitting 147. 

Good for me. Last year, Japan was a real bargain. Hope to go again this year after the summer heat goes away. Seems slightly pricier this year, but still good value compared to what it used to be like for tourists like me.

23 minutes ago, marin said:

^ You simply can not be that freaking thick. 

I’m not the one unable to answer simple questions. 

 

 

4 minutes ago, mogandave said:

I’m not the one unable to answer simple questions. 

 

 

I guess the point is that the stock prices might fluctuate despite the foreign visitor decline, if they are offset by  an increase in US travelers. As an example, I have lots of IHG and Bonvoy points, but plan to offload them all first chance I get and then not stay (pay) at their joints anymore unless I'm stuck for a place.

10 minutes ago, ronnie50 said:

I guess the point is that the stock prices might fluctuate despite the foreign visitor decline, if they are offset by  an increase in US travelers. As an example, I have lots of IHG and Bonvoy points, but plan to offload them all first chance I get and then not stay (pay) at their joints anymore unless I'm stuck for a place.

I am not arguing that tourism is not down, but the idea that the bottom has fallen out, and we’re in for a drought until Trump’s out of office is just silly. Were that the case, the stock price would reflect that, yes?

 

Also, the idea that tourists are afraid of being picked up by ICE is ridiculous. And to the extent anyone is, we have the Trump hating media to thank, not the administration.

43 minutes ago, mogandave said:

the idea that tourists are afraid of being picked up by ICE is ridiculous.

Why is it ridiculous? There have been several widely and internationally reported cases. German, Canadian, Irish who were detained by ICE for weeks without charge or explanation - and those are just the ones that received a lot of media attention. There are probably hundreds of others like them. It's natural that people would reconsider travel to the United States right now given that - and other concerns, like a sense general xenophobia in the USA. Again that too is a fear not without some credibility in fact.

2 minutes ago, ronnie50 said:

Why is it ridiculous? There have been several widely and internationally reported cases. German, Canadian, Irish who were detained by ICE for weeks without charge or explanation - and those are just the ones that received a lot of media attention. There are probably hundreds of others like them. It's natural that people would reconsider travel to the United States right now given that - and other concerns, like a sense general xenophobia in the USA. Again that too is a fear not without some credibility in fact.

There were German, Canadian and Irish tourists, in the country legally on holiday and they were detained by ICE for weeks? 

 

Were the compensated for the losses they incurred? 

 

 

 

9 hours ago, Wrwest said:

That is a large reason that I will not be setting foot on US soil as long as trumped his Project 2025 ilk are in charge. I would feel the same as a US citizen if traveling without my Thay Wife and Stepdaughter. searching my iPhone, computer for anti-trump statement at and entering airport? There would, I assure you be an "incident" most likely resulting in jail time and federal lawsuit. Why bother with the USA?  ... You elected him MAGA, enjoy the results!

Such a drama queen. How about you tell the truth and say you can't afford it.

3 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Such a drama queen. How about you tell the truth and say you can't afford it.

How about you tell the truth and admit that you've got no valid defense for the damage Trump has done to tourism? So you offer garbage instead.

6 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

I am going to the States soon, will be landing at JFK Airport in New York and renting a car, heading up to Canada to see my family, then touring around the northeast a bit.  I will let you all know about the proto-fascism I experience and any other juicy details. 

At the moment, I am just having a bit of sticker shock over the price of things, especially restaurant foods. In Toronto, lunch at a Chinese buffet (The Mandarin Restaurant) is $26, plus drinks tax and tip. Same price for a simple souvlaki lunch in a Greek family restaurant.  Think I may be eating a lot of Walmart take-out food...

Recently did a cross country road trip, Buffalo to Calif. Ice chest and multiple stops at Walmart for lunch meat, cheese and such.

1 minute ago, Alan Zweibel said:

How about you tell the truth and admit that you've got no valid defense for the damage Trump has done to tourism? So you offer garbage instead.

If deporting millions of illegal aliens results in a dip in tourism, so be it. 

 

And I wonder if the dip is just the people that come and never leave. Good riddance.

2 hours ago, marin said:

Such an empathetic guy you are. Pity you dont take the time to think about those in America in the hospitality and travel business. Tourists coming to America is off over 15% and its just going to get worse. Europeans, Asians other than Indians, and Canadians are giving it a miss. Expensive, and dangerous. Thanks Donald you are taking the greatest country in the world apart piece by peace without even having a clue. 

Who cares what you think, go suck a rock.

Just now, mogandave said:

If deporting millions of illegal aliens results in a dip in tourism, so be it. 

 

And I wonder if the dip is just the people that come and never leave. Good riddance.

Your concern for all the American folks who make their living from this industry is touching.

1 minute ago, EVENKEEL said:

Who cares what you think, go suck a rock.

I believe that's a panacea touted by RFK Jr.

1 minute ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Your concern for all the American folks who make their living from this industry is touching.

The left told me those were all jobs Americans would not do. 

 

Virtually every hospitality business in the US is hiring. 

 

 

10 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

How about you tell the truth and admit that you've got no valid defense for the damage Trump has done to tourism? So you offer garbage instead.

Did you bother reading who I responded to? I doubt it. I'm not defending anything, I am saying for a US citizen to say he won't step foot in the US for risk of whatever his bizzaro mind conjures up, that is being a drama queen.

On 8/27/2025 at 12:32 AM, bkk6060 said:

I never understood the attraction to go to the U.S. as a tourist.  U.S. is very expensive place to visit.

New York is way too crowded and super expensive.  A ticket to Disneyland can run almost $300.  Plus the high cost of hotels and food.

It is way too expensive for nomads or even middle class families now.

Places like San Francisco and L.A. use to be pretty good now, they seem ruined.

I guess the best thing about it is the national parks.

 

 

I would agree - no attraction at all.

 

We haven't traveled to USA for over 30 years & we live next door. This was a conscious choice. The gun violence, poor exchange rate, rude or indifferent and often judgmental people. (My wife is of Asian dissent) At times people even suspicious of us. There are some great people in USA, I know we met some but more often than not we encounted problems. (NOTE: Some of our extended family live and work in USA) but listening to gun shots while sitting poolside in Sarasota or on a hotel balcony in Minneapolis is not appealing not to forget the constant all night sirens in new york city .... Interesting too on a recent overseas trek , we over heard an American couple with a distinct accent telling the Australian and English speaking co-trekers that they were from Canada. (Seemed odd as they had a distinct American accent)  On a break we asked them why, they said they often are not received well when traveling abroad if they tell people where they are from. Hearing this made us feel sad.

8 minutes ago, oceanbluejewell said:

I would agree - no attraction at all.

 

We haven't traveled to USA for over 30 years & we live next door. This was a conscious choice. The gun violence, poor exchange rate, rude or indifferent and often judgmental people. (My wife is of Asian dissent) At times people even suspicious of us. There are some great people in USA, I know we met some but more often than not we encounted problems. (NOTE: Some of our extended family live and work in USA) but listening to gun shots while sitting poolside in Sarasota or on a hotel balcony in Minneapolis is not appealing not to forget the constant all night sirens in new york city .... Interesting too on a recent overseas trek , we over heard an American couple with a distinct accent telling the Australian and English speaking co-trekers that they were from Canada. (Seemed odd as they had a distinct American accent)  On a break we asked them why, they said they often are not received well when traveling abroad if they tell people where they are from. Hearing this made us feel sad.

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