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HHS Employees Accuse RFK of "Endangering" USA, Demand He Resigns

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Who is Joseph Ladapo, the Florida surgeon general who opposes vaccine mandates?

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62q41qm9pvo

 

"Dr Joseph Ladapo, who likened the requirements to slavery during the announcement,"

I find it interesting that the Democrats wish to impose "slavery" on the American people. It's all about government control which they use to impose their liberal theology on. 

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    Meanwhile, a litany of Kennedy's actual real lunacies:   "... Robert F. Kennedy Jr. offers several clues that he is not from this world. For example, he doesn’t believe in the germ theory—th

  • Stiddle Mump
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    These white-coats have doubled down. Maybe, as a compromised, get-together, group, they think they must muddy the waters, and make as big a stink as possible, as they believe they are soon gonna be hi

  • The article by Jennifer Margulis, which is the subject of this thread, provides an overview of 'inconvenient' medical facts.  Looks like you didn't read that short overview, so I repost it here for yo

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Re Ladapo, his record speaks for itself, leading one major newspaper to call him "the most dangerous quack in America."

 

"Ladapo has been widely criticized by public health experts and advocates for opposing mainstream public health guidance. He called for a halt to using mRNA coronavirus vaccines last year, citing debunked claims that the shots could contaminate a patient’s DNA. He became the first statewide health official to urge communities to stop adding fluoride to drinking water, a practice widely credited for improving oral health.

 

Public health experts immediately condemned the announcement.

“We can expect that measles will come roaring back,” said Paul Offit, a pediatrician and prominent critic of Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. “Other infectious diseases will follow. This is an unprecedented move that will only put our children at unnecessary risk.”

 

Washington Post

https://archive.ph/meyU1

 

And beyond this latest episode, Ladapo is simply reprehensible, a doctor who personally changed a state study on COVID vaccine safety to make it claim the vaccines posed more of a risk than the data actually showed.

 

CDC, FDA send letter to Florida’s Surgeon General warning he is endangering lives with COVID vaccine risk advice

March 13, 2023 

 

On Friday, U.S. public health agencies sent a letter to Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo warning that his fueling of vaccine hesitancy is harming the public, particularly Florida seniors.

 

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2023/03/10/cdc-fda-send-letter-to-floridas-surgeon-general-warning-he-is-endangering-lives-with-covid-vaccine-risk-advice/

 

 

Florida surgeon general altered key findings in study on Covid-19 vaccine safety

 

04/24/2023

 

"TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo personally altered a state-driven study about Covid-19 vaccines last year to suggest that some doses pose a significantly higher health risk for young men than had been established by the broader medical community, according to a newly obtained document.

 

Ladapo’s changes, released as part of a public records request, presented the risks of cardiac death to be more severe than previous versions of the study. He later used the final document in October to bolster disputed claims that Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines were dangerous to young men.

 

The surgeon general, a well-known Covid-19 vaccine skeptic, faced a backlash from the medical community after he made the assertions, which go against guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and American Academy of Pediatrics.

 

(more)

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/24/florida-surgeon-general-covid-vaccine-00093510

 

Meet the most dangerous quack in America

Jan. 9, 2024

 

"It used to be fairly easy to dismiss Florida’s surgeon general, Dr. Joseph A. Ladapo, as a clownish anti-vaccine quack posing a danger mostly to residents of his home state.

 

That has become harder to do as time goes on, as Ladapo has moved from promoting useless treatments for COVID-19, such as the drugs hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, to waging an ever-expanding fact-free campaign against the leading COVID vaccines.

...

Finally, one must consider the source. Despite his state post and a tenured position as a professor of medicine at the University of Florida — courtesy of his patron Ron DeSantis, the extremist anti-vaccine Republican governor — Ladapo has zero credibility within the medical establishment. Taking medical advice from Ladapo makes about as much sense as taking investment advice from Sam Bankman-Fried or your view of academic integrity from Christopher Rufo.

 

(more)

 

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2024-01-09/meet-the-most-dangerous-quack-in-america

 

 

11 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Re Ladapo, his record speaks for itself, leading one major newspaper to call him "the most dangerous quack in America."

 

"Ladapo has been widely criticized by public health experts and advocates for opposing mainstream public health guidance. He called for a halt to using mRNA coronavirus vaccines last year, citing debunked claims that the shots could contaminate a patient’s DNA. He became the first statewide health official to urge communities to stop adding fluoride to drinking water, a practice widely credited for improving oral health.

 

Public health experts immediately condemned the announcement.

“We can expect that measles will come roaring back,” said Paul Offit, a pediatrician and prominent critic of Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. “Other infectious diseases will follow. This is an unprecedented move that will only put our children at unnecessary risk.”

 

Washington Post

https://archive.ph/meyU1

 

And beyond this latest episode, Ladapo is simply reprehensible, a doctor who personally changed a state study on COVID vaccine safety to make it claim the vaccines posed more of a risk than the data actually showed.

 

CDC, FDA send letter to Florida’s Surgeon General warning he is endangering lives with COVID vaccine risk advice

March 13, 2023 

 

On Friday, U.S. public health agencies sent a letter to Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo warning that his fueling of vaccine hesitancy is harming the public, particularly Florida seniors.

 

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2023/03/10/cdc-fda-send-letter-to-floridas-surgeon-general-warning-he-is-endangering-lives-with-covid-vaccine-risk-advice/

 

 

Florida surgeon general altered key findings in study on Covid-19 vaccine safety

 

04/24/2023

 

"TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo personally altered a state-driven study about Covid-19 vaccines last year to suggest that some doses pose a significantly higher health risk for young men than had been established by the broader medical community, according to a newly obtained document.

 

Ladapo’s changes, released as part of a public records request, presented the risks of cardiac death to be more severe than previous versions of the study. He later used the final document in October to bolster disputed claims that Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines were dangerous to young men.

 

The surgeon general, a well-known Covid-19 vaccine skeptic, faced a backlash from the medical community after he made the assertions, which go against guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and American Academy of Pediatrics.

 

(more)

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/24/florida-surgeon-general-covid-vaccine-00093510

 

Meet the most dangerous quack in America

Jan. 9, 2024

 

"It used to be fairly easy to dismiss Florida’s surgeon general, Dr. Joseph A. Ladapo, as a clownish anti-vaccine quack posing a danger mostly to residents of his home state.

 

That has become harder to do as time goes on, as Ladapo has moved from promoting useless treatments for COVID-19, such as the drugs hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, to waging an ever-expanding fact-free campaign against the leading COVID vaccines.

...

Finally, one must consider the source. Despite his state post and a tenured position as a professor of medicine at the University of Florida — courtesy of his patron Ron DeSantis, the extremist anti-vaccine Republican governor — Ladapo has zero credibility within the medical establishment. Taking medical advice from Ladapo makes about as much sense as taking investment advice from Sam Bankman-Fried or your view of academic integrity from Christopher Rufo.

 

(more)

 

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2024-01-09/meet-the-most-dangerous-quack-in-america

 

Gallio springs to mind.

 

Have we moved on?

 

Surely science must always be open to scrutiny. Too much of "The Science is Settled" when it obviously is not. And why is it so easily settled? The dollar, the fame, the ego, the lifestyle?

19 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

The CDC stands behind things that have been proven to work -- vaccines to prevent/greatly reduce the risks of various diseases, don't smoke/stop smoking, eat a healthy diet, maintain a healthy weight, get periodic health checkups with your doctor to catch any problems in the early going, etc etc.

Are these you words John? Sometimes I can't tell.

 

The CDC 'had' been captured for decades. Just look at their www. Continually promoting stuff that has never been shown to be true.

 

It has to be swept away. and 'replaced', if at all, with an authority based on integrity, truth and transparency.

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Just now, Stiddle Mump said:

integrity, truth and transparency.

From RFK and Trump?😔

1 minute ago, marin said:

From RFK and Trump?😔

Medical integrity, medical truth, medical transparency.

 

Keep politics OUT of science and medicine.

2 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Medical integrity, medical truth, medical transparency.

 

Keep politics OUT of science and medicine.

Fair enough

RFK is an anti-vax looney that is leading the charge for population reduction. Kill of a few million and scoop up the residual assets. By cutting off both vaccinations and medical research and subsidies the mortality rate is set to skyrocket. After Dear Leader is gone, they will have to mandate vaccinations to recover from the ignorance.

3 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

RFK is an anti-vax looney that is leading the charge for population reduction. Kill of a few million and scoop up the residual assets. By cutting off both vaccinations and medical research and subsidies the mortality rate is set to skyrocket. After Dear Leader is gone, they will have to mandate vaccinations to recover from the ignorance.

Oh dear!

 

What misunderstood humbug.

51 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Gallio springs to mind.

 

Have we moved on?

 

Surely science must always be open to scrutiny. Too much of "The Science is Settled" when it obviously is not. And why is it so easily settled? The dollar, the fame, the ego, the lifestyle?

Scrutiny is exactly how science works, papers are published and the other experts try to refute them. Your conspiracy theories are not the same thing.

21 minutes ago, marin said:

Fair enough

Thanks for the civility Sir. 

 

The reason I said what I did, is because they both, science and medicine, should always be open to be challenged.

 

Criticism, however, can be somewhat political. Evident at the present time. Attack the policy. Attack the man. But what is true? Often obfuscated, and hidden, in the criticism noise.

 

Truth is the truth, no matter who says it. Red or Blue.

CDC schedule. 72 vaccines in the first 24 months of life. Why? Anyone on here have 72 vaccines before they turned three?

4 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

The article by Jennifer Margulis, which is the subject of this thread, provides an overview of 'inconvenient' medical facts.  Looks like you didn't read that short overview, so I repost it here for you: 

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Might it be the fact that we have the highest maternal mortality rate of any country in the industrialized world?

Or is RFK, Jr. jeopardizing our ignominiously high infant mortality rates?

Perhaps they’re concerned that he’s putting the astronomical rates of autism among America’s children at risk? The current rate, based on government data, is some 1 in 31 (3.2% of 8-year-olds)

Wait, wait. I know. The unhappy HHS employees fear that Kennedy is risking the fact that at least 45 percent of America’s are suffering from a chronic disease!

That must be their main worry.

After all, we wouldn’t want children to stop suffering from the terrible asthma, depression, diabetes, early onset menstruation, eczema, inactivity, loneliness, physical limitations, obesity, or trouble sleeping—all of which have been increasing over the last ten years—now would we?

Nah. That’s not it.

It must be the colon cancer and the fact that rates of colorectal cancers have tripled in teens in the last 20 years that they don’t want to change.

Or is it the suicidal ideation and the rise in suicides in America that they don’t want curtailed?

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And NONE of the commenters on this thread, provided any evidence of the contrary...  They are only bleating that RFK jr is endangering the health of the nation by starting this much needed overhaul to the non-performing bureaucratic CDC-monster under whose watch as good as all indicators of public health have gone down.   

 

So you have manged to come up with one dissenting doctor (who AFAIK has not worked for the CDC) yet take his word over that of 1,000 doctors who HAVE worked for the CDC and know what they are talking about;

 

You have the choice of believing a very tiny minority of one or the majority  of 1,000. I know whose advice I would take, and it wouldn't be the minority of one.

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8 minutes ago, billd766 said:

So you have manged to come up with one dissenting doctor (who AFAIK has not worked for the CDC) yet take his word over that of 1,000 doctors who HAVE worked for the CDC and know what they are talking about;

 

You have the choice of believing a very tiny minority of one or the majority  of 1,000. I know whose advice I would take, and it wouldn't be the minority of one.

You obviously only have access to mainstream media and Public Health sources, otherwise you would know how 'out of touch with reality' your statement is.  

There are approx 150-200 threads on the current sub-forum < https://aseannow.com/forum/466-covid-other-vaccine-studies/ > that ring a very different bell, many of them authored by medical professionals that refuse to be silenced by Big Pharma Brother.

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8 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Scrutiny is exactly how science works, papers are published and the other experts try to refute them. Your conspiracy theories are not the same thing.

My 'conspiracy theories'; are based on nature. And are true. The 'germ theory' is just that; a theory.

 

It took off - becoming the major medical system - after the FED was created, in 1913.  Why did it take off? In a nut-shell; money. It could be seen, by some rich people, that funding hospitals and medical schools was a good way to get rid of 'nature based' health (that was not a great earner), and install a new; centered around germs, bacteria and scary viruses. ''If you can promote the new theory, there is plenty of funding available,'' And so it continues to this day.

 

Viruses have never been shown to cause any illness. They have never been isolated. Illnesses have not been shown to be infectious. Although many have tried to show that to be the case. Including well over100 by the US Military.

 

And in this time - 1913 to 2025 - the money dealers, and the compromised white-coats, have continually doubled down on this 'theory'. Is it any wonder that anyone saying 'not so' is smeared, cancelled and sometimes brown breaded?

 

Nature has the answers we seek.

2 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

promoting useless treatments for COVID-19, such as the drugs hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin


debunked 20 years ago.
 

Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread

 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1232869/

 

 

Pharmacology of Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine

 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7122276/

 

2 minutes ago, Airalee said:


debunked 20 years ago.
 

Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread

 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1232869/

 

 

Pharmacology of Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine

 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7122276/

 

You can't poison the body back to good health.

12 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

You can't poison the body back to good health.

Had I come down with convid, I doubt I would have regretted taking hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin instead of Fauci’s mystery sauce.

The people that will likely get the axe from HHS are calling for RFKJ to resign. Shocking. 

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1 hour ago, billd766 said:

You have the choice of believing a very tiny minority of one or the majority  of 1,000. I know whose advice I would take, and it wouldn't be the minority of one.

That would be the advice that said getting the jab will stop you getting covid, stop you spreading Covid, the "vaccine" is safe and effective and wear a mask and stand at least 6 feet from each other. What must be kept in mind is that dissent was forbiden. On here it was also. Any post that didn't support the "expert" narrative was deleted for being a conspiracy theory or misinformation.

Without the medical advances as regards vaccinations, many hundreds of thousands of people would have died over the past decades.

 

There follows a great article on vaccines, polio and iron lungs and it makes great reading. I was particularly interested in it as I had a schoolfriend who was crippled with polio and I was his wheelchair pusher at two schools.

 

In addition I was friends with a lovely girl  who was also crippled with polio and I was very fond of her, but unfortunately she burnt to death when her adapted 3 wheel car crashed and caught fire and she couldn't escape.

 

Lastly a boy my age who lived opposite was also crippled in one leg and had to wear a leg iron.

 

So I had knowledge and experience with this horrible disease and the devastating effect it had on children and I was pleasd when the injected vaccine and the oral vaccine were given to us at school. So for some cocaine addled nutter with a worm eaten brain to spread mis/disinformation like he does is a crime in itself......he needs to be stopped one way or another.

 

https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/iron-lungs-polio-1930s-1950s/?fbclid=IwY2xjawMqBodleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFHRXd4d1RUaU1VdHpzd1RuAR4Tw8nfd9HgKxsl1BZh8x_H5yU18F6FwXryp-rBRvOcNs-2TvgXJkBUzobY4Q_aem_4UW_ttdXnvyURCIbtDtJUA

On 9/5/2025 at 4:36 PM, cjinchiangrai said:

RFK is an anti-vax looney that is leading the charge for population reduction. Kill of a few million and scoop up the residual assets. By cutting off both vaccinations and medical research and subsidies the mortality rate is set to skyrocket. After Dear Leader is gone, they will have to mandate vaccinations to recover from the ignorance.

Will there be law suits? I know they are rare in the US but.. ..

28 minutes ago, Jim Blue said:

Will there be law suits? I know they are rare in the US but.. ..

There already are.

On 9/5/2025 at 3:31 PM, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

That has become harder to do as time goes on, as Ladapo has moved from promoting useless treatments for COVID-19, such as the drugs hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, to waging an ever-expanding fact-free campaign against the leading COVID vaccines.

Both these drugs restrict the body's endeavors to self heal.

 

They lessen the effect of detox symptoms. So, one thinks they are doing good.

22 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Both these drugs restrict the body's endeavors to self heal.

 

They lessen the effect of detox symptoms. So, one thinks they are doing good.

Nonsense, tested and dismissed, BY THE MANUFACTURERS! You are promoting lies again.

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35 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Both these drugs restrict the body's endeavors to self heal.

 

They lessen the effect of detox symptoms. So, one thinks they are doing good.

 

11 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Nonsense, tested and dismissed, BY THE MANUFACTURERS! You are promoting lies again.

 

@cjinchiangrai > An unexpected - but welcome - turn-around, with you now defending hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin

21 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Nonsense, tested and dismissed, BY THE MANUFACTURERS! You are promoting lies again.

Lies eh?

 

They are both well known and well researched drugs CJ. That is not to be denied or underestimated. They were promoted as a cure/relief of covid-19. In fact they were promoted very hard, as their use, if adopted, could have stopped the roll out of the MRNA vaxxes on emergency use.

 

Such respected as Tess Lawrie went all-in on Ivermectin. Many others did also.

 

Are you now a fan? Don't really get your point CJ.

1 minute ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Lies eh?

 

They are both well known and well researched drugs CJ. That is not to be denied or underestimated. They were promoted as a cure/relief of covid-19. In fact they were promoted very hard, as their use, if adopted, could have stopped the roll out of the MRNA vaxxes on emergency use.

 

Such respected as Tess Lawrie went all-in on Ivermectin. Many others did also.

 

Are you now a fan? Don't really get your point CJ.

It doesn't work.

10 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

It doesn't work.

Thanks for you reply CJ.

 

Don't work about what?

 

Many white-coats say it does work to reduce symptoms of covid. That is not my belief as you well know.

 

Shooting the messenger again.

 

 

25 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Thanks for you reply CJ.

 

Don't work about what?

 

Many white-coats say it does work to reduce symptoms of covid. That is not my belief as you well know.

 

Shooting the messenger again.

 

Ivermectin and Chloroquinones are not recommended for Covid. Full stop. Stop spreading your voodoo nonsense.

 

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