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7 hours ago, shdmn said:

When is the convicted felon con man sending the National Guard to Utah?  A lot of people are saying these red states are a breeding ground for political assassins.  All the best people are saying it.

Name 1  of these best ......   Schumer ?  Pritzker ? Jeffries ? Crocket ?

On 9/12/2025 at 12:25 PM, Cameroni said:

 

Ooops we have another leftie obfuscator. Perhaps address your own ignorance Walker88:

 

And now they have the perp in custody. So, fact not leftie obfuscator?

18 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

 

You'll have to read through the thread. I don't want to make it personal.  I'm sure if it turns out he is not trans or Antifa, or possibly even a "lefty", apologies will be forthcoming.

Evidently not ... Cameroni post.

It’s probably a good time to take a break for a week or so, as the rightist sanctimony and hypocrisy continues its unctuous drip, and they get to play the victim card….as if the right hasn’t slaughtered plenty of innocents. Heck, one rightist on this Forum called for counterrevolution. Molon Labe, Rambo.

 

I knew nothing of him before the heinous murder, but in the few days since I have learned a lot about what he believed. No thanks. I appreciate that he spoke gently and met with people who opposed his view, but after getting a clearer understanding of what he advocated, I cannot help but think he was Andrew Tate, albeit with a better presentation. He gets lots of attention now, but in a month he’ll be forgotten.

 

Kirk did not carry a message of peace so much as a message that all will be well if you adopt his political ideology, his social structure, and his superstitions regarding deities. He was no MLK, Jr., His “message” appealed primarily to MAGAs, who are generally less successful and accomplished, less educated and often never going to get a prom date. They need to be built up and to feel they belong to something outside of themselves, because individually they are not much of anything. He allowed white males in particular to valor steal by trying to take credit for what achievements other white males have made. He felt he was allowed to say what a female’s role should be (“having babies is more important than a career”), apparently unaware that equality means equality across genders. He once told fellow rightist Jack Prosobiec that if he saw a Black pilot, he would worry if the man was qualified. Apparently Kirk never heard of the Tuskeegee Airmen. Kirk was someone who feared and spoke of “replacement theory”, where non-whites would become the majority. Kirk argued against separation of church and State, calling it a misrepresentation.  I don’t think he read Madison or Jefferson, and the US is not Christian, which is what he advocated.

 

The USA was founded by secular humanists, most all of whom were atheists. There is a reason there is no mention of any deity in the US Constitution. The Founders wanted to build a nation built on logic, not fantasy or superstition. They specifically allowed all to believe as they wish, so long as the government does not impose any particular superstition on everyone. Best we not forget that, because the US is now home to a range of belief systems from those believing in millions of deities all the way to those believing in none, and certainly not the kind of White Jeebus Kirk seemed to fancy. Reading his statements, it seems the New Testament idea of loving thy neighbor as thyself, stopped at the southern border and primarily with white males.

 

In the book Kirk supposedly followed, John writes:

 

“But if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him?”

 

No mention or caveat saying, “Unless they’re migrants or Blacks”

 

It’s a bit curious also---and this is not Kirk’s fault---that the US Taxpayer had to pay so that Air Force 2 could carry his remains to AZ, at a time when the US decided it cannot give food or medicine to starving and sick children. DOGE cut foreign aid. Somehow, though, there’s money to carry a podcaster on AF2.

 

In a few posts I have noted a few of the many instances of rightist violence against innocent people, but that has been met with derision and thumbs down. I call that hypocrisy. I just wanted to see how honest the right is, and I was left wanting. Honesty is not a trait common on the right. Hypocrisy is their bread and butter. Also, if there is one single person most responsible for the division in the US and the hate directed toward innocent people, it is Donald Trump. Even at the moment of tragedy, Trump chose to take the low road and attack “deranged radical leftists”. That is in stark contrast to not only the words coming from other living Presidents, but in particular to what Bush II did after 9-11, when anger directed toward innocent Moslems could have gotten out of hand. Bush not only visited a mosque, but he had a very ecumenical memorial ceremony at the National Cathedral, which included an iman.

 

Trump inspired people to shoot Hispanics, Jews aiding South American migrants, send bombs to people Trump specifically noted as enemies, make death threats against judges and public officials, even resulting in the killing of a judge’s son. Trump absolutely fomented the 6 Jan 2021 terrorist attack (FBI Dir Christopher Wray’s term) against the Capitol and threatening to kill Trump’s own VP for simply doing the VP’s job.

 

So let's not foist all society's ills onto the far left, when it is the cirrent mainstream right most responsible for hate, division and violence.

 

 

Poor @scottiejohn, that all you have?

More posts intended to attack the opponent rather than debate the topic were removed. I've been patient, but members who persist in disdainful remarks towards their fellow members will find themselves unable to participate further. 

On 9/12/2025 at 11:03 AM, Wingate said:

There’s a lot of self-righteousness and sanctimony here, where folks are claiming progressives are rejoicing about this guy’s demise. Well, I’m not one who spends any amount of time in the fever swamps of the far right, so I barely knew who he was. That’s probably how most non-rightists view him, if they even heard of him. I’d seen his name, but nothing made me curious enough to read articles about whatever it was he did or said.

 

If I had been shown two pictures of guys on Tuesday, asking me to pick out Charlie Kirk, I would have had a 50% chance of guessing right. If told he made his name as a country singer or starred on The Real Housewives of Little Rock, I’d have had no reason to disbelieve.

 

I had no ill will toward him nor did I rejoice over his demise, because he meant nothing to me. I think his killing is horrific, but otherwise my concern is that some people will use this as an excuse to gun down others. Since it’s America, I suspect somebody will.

 

No, it's not "progressives" that are celebrating, it's the hard leftists. 

22 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

No, it's not "progressives" that are celebrating, it's the hard leftists. 

No, it's not "progressives" that are celebrating, it's the hard MAGAlamaniacals leftists. 

1 minute ago, DezLez said:

No, it's not "progressives" that are celebrating, it's the hard MAGAlamaniacals leftists. 

You're an English teacher, yes?

On 9/12/2025 at 11:09 AM, KhunLA said:

Quite a bit of different reporting what actually took place when hubby was 'attacked', and hard to believe the MSM spin on it.   Not that I believe anything the MSM states any more, and don't even bother reading it, unless posted here on AN, and usually ignore it here.

 

But did read a couple conflicting reports of the 'hubby attack' and something seemed very off, as even PoPo couldn't get their story straight.

 

That aside, there is no justification for some of the comments on AN, when someone is killed for simply having a different opinion than someone else.  

Hard for you to believe, maybe. But the fact that MAGA backers were crying what goes around comes around, shows their hypocrisy.

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

You're an English teacher, yes?

The point of your post, if any, is what?

I only substituted one word of your, minority point of view, post therefore not changing the grammatical structure of the post in any way, just the nuance/direction of it in order to make it more accurate wrt the broader AN audience!  

9 minutes ago, annotator said:

Hard for you to believe, maybe. But the fact that MAGA backers were crying what goes around comes around, shows their hypocrisy.

Not sure what any of that has to do with me, or even what your point is.  Haven't a clue what people (MAGA backers) were saying about the incident, or care.  

26 minutes ago, DezLez said:

No, it's not "progressives" that are celebrating,

 

An Oregon teacher has been put on leave for saying that his day was “brightened” by Kirk’s murder.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/employees-fired-celebrating-charlie-kirk-comments-b2825700.html

26 minutes ago, DezLez said:

The point of your post, if any, is what?

I only substituted one word of your, minority point of view, post therefore not changing the grammatical structure of the post in any way, just the nuance/direction of it in order to make it more accurate wrt the broader AN audience!  

So that's a yes. I knew it. 

29 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Not sure what any of that has to do with me, or even what your point is.  Haven't a clue what people (MAGA backers) were saying about the incident, or care.  

What you're saying clearly isn't believable. The media, particularly the alternate media, was flooded with nasty conspiracy theories and or allegations of a coverup. The only way you couldn't have encountered this stuff is if you were living in a cave.

54 minutes ago, annotator said:

What you're saying clearly isn't believable. The media, particularly the alternate media, was flooded with nasty conspiracy theories and or allegations of a coverup. The only way you couldn't have encountered this stuff is if you were living in a cave.

Welcome to my world ... 

 

I pay attention and follow things that interest me, and or affect my life.  Not gossip in the media.   I don't have any TV programming, so I don't know what they were discussing.   Did hear and or read conflicting stories, which is all I stated, so can't say I believe any of it, or care enough to research what might have happened.  Hard to believe either version if you don't know the facts.

 

Y'all seem to read a lot into that.

1 hour ago, annotator said:

What you're saying clearly isn't believable. The media, particularly the alternate media, was flooded with nasty conspiracy theories and or allegations of a coverup. The only way you couldn't have encountered this stuff is if you were living in a cave.

 

This might explain why I don't know or care what happen, or what people were discussing about it.

 

EVENKEEL 8 Nov post show 2 conflicting statements (in linked vid), one, legal docs filed, stating PoPo opened the door, and body cam, proving the opposite.   With that, and no interest of the Pelosis lives, I don't need or care to know any more.   That's probably my entire exposure to that media gossip, and I didn't even bother commenting on the thread.  ...  nuff said

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1276476-david-depape-charged-with-assault-attempted-kidnapping-in-attack-on-paul-pelosi/#findComment-17732688

 

44 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Welcome to my world ... 

 

I pay attention and follow things that interest me, and or affect my life.  Not gossip in the media.   I don't have any TV programming, so I don't know what they were discussing.   Did hear and or read conflicting stories, which is all I stated, so can't say I believe any of it, or care enough to research what might have happened.  Hard to believe either version if you don't know the facts.

 

Y'all seem to read a lot into that.

 

1 hour ago, Screaming said:

Kirk assassin suspect Tyler Robinson lived with his transgender partner

https://www.wnd.com/2025/09/kirk-assassin-suspect-tyler-robinson-lived-his-transgender/

 

There definitely seems to be a link between transgenderism and murder. The wires are certainly crossed with these individuals. 

@xylophone  Not sure this fits with your far right spin ... who's foot where 

 

@bubblegum

11 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

@xylophone  Not sure this fits with your far right spin ... who's foot where 

 

A faux news reporter said it, so it must be true.
Think I told you before, refrain from using those LOL emojis in all your post, as they only proof what a laughing matter your posts are.

I herard that the USA has more guns than people. Listening to Donald Trump, I wonder why 

half of America that does not agree with him, do not like his present speeches? 

No I am not a Trump fan and am glad that I do not live in the USA.

  I do not think that this shooting will be the last one, sadly. RIP Charlie Kirk.

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8 hours ago, KhunLA said:

@xylophone  Not sure this fits with your far right spin ... who's foot where 

 

@bubblegum

 

Trying to paint a white christian conservative ammosexual as also being a closet homosexual will just make more people realize what a lot of us already know.  That a lot of conservatives are closet homosexuals. 

 

3 minutes ago, shdmn said:

 

Apparently, they think that painting a white christian conservative gun fan as a closet homosexual is going to help their argument.  I don't think it has occurred to them that it would just make people realize that a lot of conservatives ammosexuals are also closet homosexuals.

What is the argument that they are trying to help?

 

DO you have any idea?

8 hours ago, KhunLA said:

@xylophone  Not sure this fits with your far right spin ... who's foot where 

 

@bubblegum

Please try and keep up as it seems your reading and comprehension skills are about on par with trumps favourite people. 

 

You posted, "He's definitely a LEFTY NUTJOB". 

LOL if this is true.  There is so much noise right now it's hard to tell.

 

Lance Twiggs is apparently a fictional character in the Battletech universe, known as the commander of the 13th Legion of Vega.

 

They are so desperate to create a narrative that somehow infers trans / gay/ antifa connections. No matter how obscure, they will grasp at it as if their life depended upon it.

 

 

 

****Trolling meme removed****

 

On 9/11/2025 at 8:09 AM, novacova said:

Why do you insist on posting lies? You know you have no credibility yet you persist.

I think there is some balance between the frequent posters on the right and those on the left.

For example, I don't scrutinize every post by Riclag or Jingthing expecting new insights with a calm balanced point of view.  Not to pick on those two they are just examples of frequent posters that I see as coming from opposite points of view on a lot of things.

 

People like to call each other's BS which is as it should be.

Not much that is said on here is anything but banter anyway IMHO.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/ilhan-omar-and-others-make-harsh-remarks-after-charlie-kirk-assassination-101757668148303.html

 

Well well

2 hours ago, sharot724 said:

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/ilhan-omar-and-others-make-harsh-remarks-after-charlie-kirk-assassination-101757668148303.html

 

Well well

Another hero to the left. She's the one that married her brother, yes?

Others knew or talked about what was coming down according to the Washington Free Beacon, revailing  conversations on social media.

https://freebeacon.com/politics/exclusive-fbi-investigating-social-media-accounts-that-appeared-to-indicate-foreknowledge-of-kirk-assassination/