6 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

The Kirk family kids and the US deserve closure, not a circus. 

Completely agree.

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Thank god I left the US 35 years ago. I can't stand listening to any of this <deleted> from either side any more. 

11 hours ago, NitJune said:

I’m neither an American nor an EU citizen. I’ve lived for over twenty years in Germany, Italy, Switzerland, and North America, and I have no desire to return.

 

In those places, some folks seem to be cutting the branch they’re sitting on, welcoming every Tom, Dick, and Harry with open arms.

 

Charlie Kirk isn’t someone to be ashamed of; he was simply highlighting the dangers of polarization and tolerating evil under the guise of a warped ideology and Weltanschau.

 

Yet he became a profitable tool!

Condolenses to Charlie Kirk's familiy.

What surprised me was the nimber of people on various platforms/outlets who were glad Charlie Kirk had been assassinated. And it seems that some forum members blame him for his outspoken words...whatever ever happened to 'Sticks and stones...'? People have thin skins these days.

 

16 minutes ago, parallelman said:

Condolenses to Charlie Kirk's familiy.

What surprised me was the nimber of people on various platforms/outlets who were glad Charlie Kirk had been assassinated. And it seems that some forum members blame him for his outspoken words...whatever ever happened to 'Sticks and stones...'? People have thin skins these days.

 

 

I guess it goes both ways when it comes to sympathy across the camps. 

 

I couldn’t care less, since it is not my table, but still killing people for their opinions, is not right. 

 

John Lennon was shot and killed as well, but that was a lunatic, while he was also a political target. Seems lunatics is the most dangerously cases, even most of them is politically brainwashed. 

 

It will be a interesting case to follow and see how this investigation will unfollow. 

 

Edit note I thought he wanted to impress a girl, but 

Chapman, although a fan of Lennon, was upset by the Liverpool singer's views on God—he was particularly irked by a famous Lennon quip, about the Beatles being "more popular than Jesus," as well as the lyrics to later songs "Imagine" and "God."

 

In the book, a sister of one of Chapman's friends Jan Reeves said that he was angry towards Lennon's claim about the band being more popular than Jesus, claiming that it was blasphemy.

Chapman was also said to be highly influenced by the book "John Lennon: One Day at a Time" by Anthony Fawcett, which explored Lennon's life in New York City

 

https://www.newsweek.com/john-lennon-death-mark-david-chapman-motive-killing-40-anniversary-1553156

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21 hours ago, CallumWK said:

 

So you agree that gays should be stoned? And you agree his racist comment that black pilots are incompetent?

Go research the video, your view is taken out of context or you are citing rumors.

5 hours ago, Wrwest said:

“I think it is worth to have the cost of unfortunately some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second Amendment to protect our other Second Amendment rights”. - PBS Newshour video of Charlie Kirk speaking. Most certainly I vehemently disagree.

 

he died for this principles. You people don't seem to understand not everyone is eager to hand control over to the government because of some fear of what may happen to them.

 

Not that you care but this is why people have that view.

 

It's obviously libs that are stirring up the violence.

 

4 hours ago, Hummin said:

Yet he became a profitable tool!

Do you mean, he once seized his fork in both hands,
And looked up bewhiskered out of the pit,
Shouted like an army captain, "Let her come!" ⁉️

Who was the old guy arrested immediately after the shooting ? His name is George Zinn. He acted as a diversion and all of the police resources were sucked up by him immediately after the shooting.

Salt Lake Tribune article : https://www.sltrib.com/news/2025/09/10/george-zinn-what-we-know-about-man/

Zinn is known for showing up — and occasionally disrupting or being arrested at — events ranging from political speeches to the Sundance Film Festival to various protests. He holds the distinction of being the first person thrown out by security at the swanky City Creek Center mall when it first opened in downtown Salt Lake City in March 2012.

In one widely shared video from the Orem campus, a uniformed officer and men in plainclothes are holding Zinn’s arms and moving him away from the scene. At one point, his pants fell and bunched around his ankles, revealing his boxer shorts. Spectators were yelling at Zinn, with one repeating “How dare you?”
Most recently, in May, Zinn was arrested by Ogden police on a misdemeanor count of “pedestrian in roadway.”

“George stated he didn’t care if the vehicles waited all day. I told George he needed to wait on the sidewalk, and not in the roadway,” the officer wrote. “He told me he did not care, and to take him to jail.”

After “several minutes,” the report shows the officer did just that.

Months earlier, in January, police in Park City arrested him on suspicion of trespassing. He was banned from the festival after he reportedly tried to push his way into a Sundance Film Festival Q&A, but returned multiple times and was arrested days later.

The most serious charge against Zinn came in 2013, when he was charged with threatening to place bombs at the Salt Lake City Marathon finish line. Zinn took a plea deal and received a sentence of probation, but was ultimately ordered to jail for one year, with credit for time served, after not meeting the conditions of his probation.

In recent years, Zinn attended Salt Lake County Mayor Jenny Wilson’s 2023 “State of the County” address, a 2023 Sutherland Institute event headlined by U.S. Sen. Mike Lee, and former Utah House Speaker Greg Hughes’ 2020 announcement that he was running for governor.

In 2019, when a downtown Salt Lake City protest against the Utah Inland Port Authority turned violent, Zinn was one of five people arrested and taken to jail, KSL reported. Zinn, then 65, was arrested for investigation of disorderly conduct and failure to disperse. The other four people taken to jail were activists less than half his age.

The NY Post describes him as a "political gadfly". Yeah. Nice weasel words for an disruptor/crisis actor scumbag employed by one of the agencies, from what country who knows

Here is George Zinn doing some 911 interview thing. Remember, the 1st Trump shooter, the 2nd Trump shooter, the Southport stabber, and the Pulse nightclub shooter all feature in ads and video media content that is all available online and backed up by official sources 

 

 

23 minutes ago, kwonitoy said:

So true, but now all public right wings suddenly feels the target, themselves being targets, and not school kids who have lived with this fear god known how long 

 

Every right wing podcast hostes had this talks now lately after the shooting, an they are heavily impacted by the killing of Kirk, and realized they also might be a target. 

 

I guess also the same goes for the liberal podcasters to, since they all also have come out with different responses 

19 hours ago, cdemundo said:

 

For clarity, I repeat.

So please, if you have posted the the shooter was Antifa, Transgender or radical left, please go lay down by your dish.

 

This is the kind of score keeping nonsense that they use to divide everyone. 

 

Anyway sorry to burst your bubble but The Daily Mail is reporting that the shooter lived with a tranny. 

 

Took a few days but it is finally tranny time 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15095195/tyler-robinson-roommate-text-messages-cops-arrest-utah.html

 

Authorities are yet to confirm a motive, but Utah Governor Spencer Cox told the Wall Street Journal that Robinson was, 'deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology'.

 

For what that's worth. It all looks like divide and disruption nonsense to me. 

2 hours ago, kwonitoy said:

 

Charlie Kirk in a recent interview :

 

"Fact is now BB and the Israeli hard-right government has a mandate. I got to be careful the way I say this to they're going to try to ethnically cleanse Gaza. Yep. I mean that that's and I don't use that term lightly. Okay. They're talking about basically removing 2.5 million people from there" 

 

There's actual video online of him saying this. He was really going off the reservation with this rhetoric considering he was the biggest and most well funded political figure in the US representing youth. 

 

 

This is an interview 2 months ago from Meghan Kelly's Sirius XM show. In it , Charlie Kirk says how he personally met with Trump and urged him not to start the war with Iran. And made it be known that the ppl he represents are opposed to going to war.

 

He doesn't go into it and warms in over but Trump told him to pound sand. 

 

 

In the United States, there are approximately 47,000 gun-related deaths annually, which translates to about 13.7 deaths per 100,000 people. This figure represents a slight decrease from previous years, indicating a trend in gun violence statistics. 

 

Pew Research Center+1

 

47000 / 365 = 128.7 Deaths PER DAY from shooting, of which ck was but one.

but but but, the radical lefties. SMH

 

 

 

 

 

Evangelicals were only ever taught that the Israel today was the Israel of the Bible, and they were "the good guys". It takes some of them years to question this, and clearly Charlie was starting to ask questions and nuance his view.

His wife is Catholic and there marriage was just convalidated after he started going to mass with her. His freinds said that he was in the middle of a spiritual transformation. He was ready to leave evangelical Protestantism over the Israel stuff. And obviously his wife being Catholic made it convenient. 

 

This is how Game of Thrones is played in 2025. Now Ben Shapiro is taking over Turning Point USA. He wears the Kippah.

On 9/12/2025 at 10:28 PM, CallumWK said:

 

Kirk was a far right hate preacher

 you are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo wrong !  shame on you

On 9/12/2025 at 10:56 PM, NorthernRyland said:

Here's the mugshot.

 

turned in by his "Trans" live in partner.  that tipped off his father.  that ultimately got him turned over to the authorities.

Hard decision for a parent to make .    but it shows there are  good people in this world that will not tolerate this 

2 hours ago, kwonitoy said:

 

 

I see your 7 kids a day die, and raise you 1000 kids under 5 yrs old dying every day for lack of clean water to drink, and the very basics.   Why is that not a headline story everyday.

 

What's it all mean .... NOBODY CARES

 

RIP .. Condolences & prayers to all .... problem solved 

 

 

On topic ... got nothing, but, the 2nd Amendment rocks, with ability to protect one's self as long as people may or may not want to harm you. 

 

 

6 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

I see your 7 kids a day die, and raise you 1000 kids under 5 yrs old dying every day for lack of clean water to drink, and the very basics.   Why is that not a headline story everyday.

 

What's it all mean .... NOBODY CARES

 

 

On topic ... got nothing, but, the 2nd Amendment rocks, with ability to protect one's self as long as people may or may not want to harm you. 

 

 

Thats just a canadian admitting that american lives mean more

3 hours ago, kwonitoy said:

In the United States, there are approximately 47,000 gun-related deaths annually, which translates to about 13.7 deaths per 100,000 people. This figure represents a slight decrease from previous years, indicating a trend in gun violence statistics. 

 

 

Would cut your balls off if some statistic showed it would reduce the rates of cancer?

4 hours ago, Harsh Jones said:

Charlie Kirk in a recent interview :

 

"Fact is now BB and the Israeli hard-right government has a mandate. I got to be careful the way I say this to they're going to try to ethnically cleanse Gaza. Yep. I mean that that's and I don't use that term lightly. Okay. They're talking about basically removing 2.5 million people from there" 

 

There's actual video online of him saying this. He was really going off the reservation with this rhetoric considering he was the biggest and most well funded political figure in the US representing youth. 

 

 

It is being assumed that the opposition to Kirk was from the left, while it is clear that his views on Israel were in direct conflict with the extreme rightwing white supremacist and neo-Nazis who are openly antisemitic.

 

Examples of which marched through the streets of Charlottesville. Although I’m told ‘there are good people on both sides’.

Then add Kirk’s opposition to Trump on covering up the Epstein files and the response that got with the likes of Laura Loomer calling Kirk a traitor and the evidence is clear, Kirk was making enemies on the extreme right.

 

 

 

9 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

Would cut your balls off if some statistic showed it would reduce the rates of cancer?

You’re confusing a statistic with a diagnosis.

 

 

On 9/13/2025 at 9:49 PM, NorthernRyland said:

 

he died for this principles. You people don't seem to understand not everyone is eager to hand control over to the government because of some fear of what may happen to them.

 

Not that you care but this is why people have that view.

 

What we have here is a failure to communicate. "You people..." ... "not that you care..." I have failed to be clear in posting Kirk's words and saying I disagree that the gun deaths are acceptable.

 

22 minutes ago, Wrwest said:

What we have here is a failure to communicate. "You people..." ... "not that you care..." I have failed to be clear in posting Kirk's words and saying I disagree that the gun deaths are acceptable.

 

 

These were the kinds of things Charlie Kirk was trying to explain so at the least the two sides understand each other. I don't know if you understand both sides of the gun debate but even if you do it doesn't mean we agree.