10 minutes ago, ChuckInBangkok said:

AI Overview

Estimates of the total financial cost of the January 6, 2021, riot vary depending on what is included, with figures ranging from millions to billions of dollars. Key figures include: 

• Property damage: Reports indicate the physical damage to the U.S. Capitol building and grounds cost millions of dollars, with one 2022 court filing citing over $2.7 million. This includes broken windows, splintered doors, and damage to artwork and historic architecture.
• Broader costs to taxpayers: A 2023 report from the Government Accountability Office estimated the total cost to taxpayers was around $2.7 billion. This broader figure includes:
  • Costs incurred by the Capitol Police, the District of Columbia, and other federal agencies.
  • Estimated expenses for enhanced security measures and ongoing investigations. 

Restitution and who pays

• Taxpayer burden: Despite court-ordered restitution for convicted rioters, taxpayers are primarily responsible for the cleanup and repair costs.
• Minimal payments: A June 2024 CBS News investigation found that only about 15% of the nearly $3 million in restitution ordered for property damage had been paid by January 6 offenders.
• Pardons and restitution: A March 2025 letter from congressional Democrats claimed that recent pardons for January 6 rioters will prevent them from having to pay their court-ordered restitution, leaving taxpayers to foot the bill. 

how much damage was done here

48 minutes ago, ChuckInBangkok said:

 

That's the REACTION to it.

 

Completely different thing. It didn't START due to politics. It started because a cop killed a black man in their neighborhood. 

 

He killed himself with his drug use, The city of Minneapolis decided that they were going to convict all of the cops to prevent any riots. Really worked out good. A lot of info is coming out about the surpressed information.

Why are they so desperate to get a transsexual mixed into this? Are they the new muslims for Americans? 

 

Let the facts get out before all this inuendo. 

10 minutes ago, flexomike said:

I am beginning to think you don't get anything.

Fact Check: True.

2 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

There were lots of charlie kirk vids on u tube with him debating with students , that's were I saw it , but many have been taken down, including that one.   I can't believe nobody else has mentioned this 

Was searching for it a couple days ago, and stated that on AN somewhere, that it seemed to have been scrubbed,   Then saw them both again last night.   Thought that was a bit strange, as wasn't even searching for them.

 

When no torrents to watch, seems YT is my entertainment venue.

36 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

the problem is, what are the bad guys doing whilst we are attending bible classes? 

Bday Prang, you got me thinking. I reckon the bad guys are following their bliss. I say the components used in creating their bliss are found in their (our) basic human nature. Self preservation at all costs. Selfishness. Drive to reproduce. Need for power; control/dominance over others. Greed. Taking what they don't have. Keeping what they have. Could simply say always selfishness first instead of selflessness. 

 

Bad guys always ultimately fail but oh they take so many others with them who are caught up in their bliss.

 

Regarding the politics of the day, I personally prefer to have a Bible class person governing me than a bad guy only pursuing what they want. 

 

It's hard to arrive at an answer about how does a bad guy ever become a good guy? By his own power? Wisdom from remembering the numerous painful consequences of suffering as a result of some stronger bad guy's selfishness? Experiencing community justice that guaranteed punishment of bad behavior? Reconditioning the human nature after years, decades of FAFO?

 

I personally think it takes an outside force to intervene and cause dominance over my human nature. Can a sour apple tree ever become a sweet apple tree on its own? I don't think I have the power to change my own human nature. Looking back on my life, I can say (without an intervention) I am naturally a bad guy because I know the bad things I did in my life for the selfish reasons I had to those others who were in Bible class. 

 

Got to think this through. Need to find precise words to match my ideas. A friend called them "pearly predicatives". 🙂

1 hour ago, flexomike said:

how much damage was done here

 

Release the Epstein files!

Just now, ChuckInBangkok said:

 

Release the Epstein files!

what the hell are you smoking

 

8 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

 

You make some valid points about Chauvin, however, the BLM movement was formed after numerous examples of police shooting black people in previous months/years (Eric Garner, Michael Brown, Ezell Ford, Tamir Rice, Stephon Clark, Breonna Taylor - it's a long list!).  The rioting was an understandable way for the powerless to show their feelings.

They destroyed their own communities. Understandable my ass. 

2 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

Why are they so desperate to get a transsexual mixed into this? Are they the new muslims for Americans? 

 

Let the facts get out before all this inuendo. 

Who are they? 

 

Whoever is mixed in it, got themselves mixed it in. 

 

What nonsense are you pretending to know about Muslims in the US?

Look at all the "new" leftists with less than 100 posts are coming out of the woodwork in celebration Charlie Kirk's death. 

2 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

Why are they so desperate to get a transsexual mixed into this? Are they the new muslims for Americans? 

 

Let the facts get out before all this inuendo. 

You might want to ask the OP why he bothered starting another misinformation thread.

42 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

You might want to ask the OP why he bothered starting another misinformation thread.

He's a leftist, it's what they do.

2 hours ago, ChuckInBangkok said:

 

Say Hey ! that is about as lame as your Tik Tok vids  ...

So where is this kids medal of freedom?

 

 

Where is their medal of freedom?

 

 

Where is the outrage for her murder?

 

 

6 hours ago, ChuckInBangkok said:

 

Release the Epstein files!

 

Stop protecting your pedo heroes!

maybe lay off the crack, and sober up too.

 

And,....when the opportunity presents itself, step up and VOTE for Pete, your breastfeeding luvie duvie. I am sure he'll release the Epstein files...yes?

 

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, illisdean said:

maybe lay off the crack, and sober up too.

 

And,....when the opportunity presents itself, step up and VOTE for Pete, your breastfeeding luvie duvie. I am sure he'll release the Epstein files...yes?

 

 

 

I suspect he would. Unlike your cult leader and his rich friends who need to keep that list hidden, Pete most likely is not in the habit of <deleted> 14 year old girls. 

13 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Look at all the "new" leftists with less than 100 posts are coming out of the woodwork in celebration Charlie Kirk's death. 

There is probably a website that directs them to internet forums like this,  I am sure most of them do not live here and have no connection to Thailand,  They just visit this and other sites to troll

2 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

There is probably a website that directs them to internet forums like this,  I am sure most of them do not live here and have no connection to Thailand,  They just visit this and other sites to troll

Protection

15 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

He's a leftist, it's what they do.

when not attacking those who disagree with them (regardless of "the science")

So will the author of this thread now step up and admit he was wrong? 

 

As the evidence has firmly established the shooter is a leftist steeped in trans and LGBT ideology?

12 hours ago, ChuckInBangkok said:

 

I suspect he would. Unlike your cult leader and his rich friends who need to keep that list hidden, Pete most likely is not in the habit of <deleted> 14 year old girls. 

Good ole Pete, he's not still breastfeeding the little one is he?

15 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

So will the author of this thread now step up and admit he was wrong? 

 

As the evidence has firmly established the shooter is a leftist steeped in trans and LGBT ideology?

No evidence except your statements. Give it up.

 

So now the DOJ deleted a study saying most political violence comes from the right wing. They are so dumb to believe that deleting it from their website does not mean it is deleted from the internet.

3 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

No evidence except your statements. Give it up.

 

 

Hahahahaha....denial is a river in Egypt.

 

 The court documents reported that Robinson’s mother said that he “had become more political and had started to lean more to the left — becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented.” 

 

Prosecutors wrote in the court papers that Tyler Robinson, 22, targeted Kirk because of his “belief or perception regarding Charlie Kirk’s political expression.” 

 

 https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/09/16/kirk-shooting-suspect-tyler-robinson/

10 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/09/16/kirk-shooting-suspect-tyler-robinson/

 

When even WaPo has to abandon the narrative, it's time for the fat lady to sing.

 

Just now, impulse said:

 

When even WaPo has to abandon the narrative, it's time for the fat lady to sing.

 

 

It really is. Actually a very good article by WaPo, I was expecting them to leave out the left wing part, by they did not.

 

The FBI has done too good a job with the evidence, nobody can deny what happened and still be taken seriously.