2 hours ago, ColeBOzbourne said:

The Keyboard Warriors have stepped aside to make way for the Keyboard Psychiatrists on this thread. Just type a few lines and they render a diagnosis and treatment plan. Very efficient!

 

2 hours ago, JayClay said:

 

I don't see many if any diagnosis on this thread.

 

I mostly see posts advising the OP that he should seek professional help.

 

2 hours ago, ColeBOzbourne said:

Just the few posts before this one have diagnosed him as a 'nutter', a person of 'absolute pathetic nonsense', 'very sad', 'having a big psychological problem', 'abject and repugnant', 'in need of a qualified doctor', 'need some mental health advice', 'seek help urgently', 'in need of serious help', and etc.. 

 

So even when you aren't looking back, and going from memory alone, half the examples you site are not diagnosis and are in fact messages encouraging the OP to get help.

 

8 minutes ago, JayClay said:

So even when you aren't looking back, and going from memory alone, half the examples you site are not diagnosis and are in fact messages encouraging the OP to get help.

Yes, that's why I used the word 'conclusions' to describe some of the examples. Concluding from a few paragraphs that a person needs to go search for mental help. The OP's first post didn't warrant that, in my opinion. It sounds like hawkers and Thai people approach him trying to sell things, etc., and he can't get rid of them. They leave me alone because I ignore them. I've seen other people that they stick to like glue.

 

My comments about 'Keyboard Psychiatrists' was meant to be light-hearted, not to be taken so seriously as you have done. The OP made a harmless post and got raked over the coals for it when the mob mentality kicked in. Just what one would expect from the AN crowd. Perhaps we should agree to disagree. 

3 hours ago, Mark1969 said:

If you did a research study all those people would likely be extremely extroverted (people who feed off the energy of others) or needy in some way.

 

It's similar to vampires getting angry. They can sense one of their potential victims pulling away. These are the guys that get weird when they are ignored and probably walk around nagging people at the condo pool area who don't want to be bothered (or nagging patrons at the bar to get attention, ie bar nags).

 

Anything to get others attention and energy. Without that attention and distraction they would have to actually listen to themselves and find alternative energy sources and find their own true will inside themselves.

 

They are looking for something in others but are never satisfied because the solution is not there. Staring is just the tip of the iceberg. Getting small amounts of attention  and responses throughout the day to top up depleted reserves. It makes no difference if the attention is positive or negative as long as some response or eye contact is directed their way.

 

That's one of the theories behind the evil eye stuff. Jewelry or charms made to reflect back this continual bombardment of weird energy other people are directing at you. Mirrors are also used, often placed above doorways, etc to get rid of this stuff entering the home and confusing and distracting you, or worse, irritating you.

 

Heheheh, you're clearly the needy one here.

 

But, in all seriousness, if your energy is so weak that you get upset whenever you interact with humans ...... or (gasp!) a human looks at you, then I recommend you do activities that raise your energy, such as sports, hiking in nature, reading great literature, meditate 15 minutes each morning, watch a comedy that'll cheer you up. And get your head checked by a psychiatrist. He/she might prescribe some pills that'll reduce the drama in your life.

 

Because continuing the way you're doing now is simply awful and dooms you to a life of deeper suffering.

It's more of an irritation at this point. Just looking for better ways to avoid people. I'm not interested in "curing" myself of the condition or becoming more social.

It may be paranoia, you've reached that stage most likely

On 9/16/2025 at 1:52 AM, Mark1969 said:

I can't "hear" my true will

 

Your "true will" is heading to the girlie bars though, isn't it?

 

So what are you so worried about? 

 

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

Your "true will" is heading to the girlie bars though, isn't it?

 

So what are you so worried about? 

The problem is much worse at girlie bars. It's the same thing but much more obvious.

 

Take a typical girlie bar and bring it down to a much more subtle level and you get what I'm talking about.

 

Strange that I have to explain every little thing to you. I can tell from a lot of the responses here that people are not "getting it". You are probably too distracted and dull to analyze what other people are feeling and thinking.

 

I have given up. Go away and shut up unless you can offer some techniques in avoiding you and your babbling.

11 hours ago, Mark1969 said:

The problem is much worse at girlie bars. It's the same thing but much more obvious

 

you want the girls in girlie bars to come at you, don't you? that's the whole point. 

 

you're right. I'm NOT getting it.  i don't follow. no comprende. no hablos. 

 

communication breakdown. 

 

 

2 hours ago, tubby johnson said:

 

Heheheh, you're clearly the needy one here.

 

But, in all seriousness, if your energy is so weak that you get upset whenever you interact with humans ...... or (gasp!) a human looks at you, then I recommend you do activities that raise your energy, such as sports, hiking in nature, reading great literature, meditate 15 minutes each morning, watch a comedy that'll cheer you up. And get your head checked by a psychiatrist. He/she might prescribe some pills that'll reduce the drama in your life.

 

Because continuing the way you're doing now is simply awful and dooms you to a life of deeper suffering.

I do all of that,  meditate for hours every day, but it’s still the same when it comes to dealing with people. Definitely see myself as a misanthrope! 🤣
 

@ColeBOzbourne The OP has history. This is not the only thread of it's kind by the OP. There are variations on a theme. For instance, asking where to find apartments where there are no security to face when entering or exiting. Having to cope with interacting with them in any way appeared to be too much. Criticising local wait staff for being 'simps' for being attentive. There are many threads with the OP under a different username with this sort of thing. Hence my asking them if it is getting worse or staying the same.

On 9/18/2025 at 8:22 PM, JakeC said:

@ColeBOzbourne The OP has history. This is not the only thread of it's kind by the OP. There are variations on a theme. For instance, asking where to find apartments where there are no security to face when entering or exiting. Having to cope with interacting with them in any way appeared to be too much. Criticising local wait staff for being 'simps' for being attentive. There are many threads with the OP under a different username with this sort of thing. Hence my asking them if it is getting worse or staying the same.

It's about the same. The important part is that I no longer want to be in Thailand and don't like Thai's. They are not "evil people" I just don't like the energy they give off. I explained what this energy is the best I could, but if you can't follow, then Thailand is just no longer for me. I have also posted before that I am now here out of financial necessity and am working on ways to return home.

12 hours ago, Mark1969 said:

It's about the same. The important part is that I no longer want to be in Thailand and don't like Thai's. They are not "evil people" I just don't like the energy they give off. I explained what this energy is the best I could, but if you can't follow, then Thailand is just no longer for me. I have also posted before that I am now here out of financial necessity and am working on ways to return home.

Have you ever thought it's you? if you fixed that you'll find your problems would go away

Hey @Mark1969  They likely just have a different perspective on life, one that you cannot follow nor recognise. Your world is the way that you imagine it.  If you imagine people are staring at you... 

I imagine I have a great life and so a great life is what I have. It's like a prism that you create. So everything that you are seeing...is actually you. Your reactions, your responses to things that you imagine are happening. It's your brain that is interpreting everything in that way. My brain processes the information in a different way, hence a completely different experience.

Your issue is that you cannot easily break your habits of a lifetime. You cannot adapt to each new situation. It won't be surprising to read about new issues you have with your next location. You need to work on yourself.

 

 

On 9/16/2025 at 9:37 AM, Mark1969 said:

Any expats here who are not approached by Thai people much in daily life but still live in a densely populated area?

 

Please post tips on how you behave, interact or not, etc. Things I can do if I just want to be left alone in peace. I can avoid foreigners most of the time with avoidance body language, but the cues don't seem to work with Thai's.

 

I can't seem to get rid of Thai's "coming at me". I have tried various things, like no eye contact, just not responding, responding politely but superficially, not smiling, looking at the phone, etc but nothing seems to work particularly well consistently. Even tried some new age visualization aura shielding stuff.

 

The best technique so far is staring at the phone and not responding, but I can't do that all the time. Trying to avoid people is actually making it worse...??

 

Sorry if the post seems a tad anti-social...

All I do is give them a nice smile, and just say no thank you and keep eye contact

If they persist, I repeat no thank you and look away. 
works for me, but maybe not everyone 

1 hour ago, JakeC said:

Hey @Mark1969  They likely just have a different perspective on life, one that you cannot follow nor recognise. Your world is the way that you imagine it.  If you imagine people are staring at you... 

I imagine I have a great life and so a great life is what I have. It's like a prism that you create. So everything that you are seeing...is actually you. Your reactions, your responses to things that you imagine are happening. It's your brain that is interpreting everything in that way. My brain processes the information in a different way, hence a completely different experience.

Your issue is that you cannot easily break your habits of a lifetime. You cannot adapt to each new situation. It won't be surprising to read about new issues you have with your next location. You need to work on yourself.

Ok, sounds like you've gone native.

 

I don't want to change who I am and interpret the world in a new way. I like who I am. I'd rather move. I did not have this issue back on home turf.

 

Also, I did not have the issue in Vietnam, Mexico, Singapore and Malaysia. It seems particular to Thailand and Cambodia.

On 9/16/2025 at 11:03 AM, angryguy said:

they do walk in the way. If thats what he meant. Not just thailand too but in asia the sidewalks are smaller and they dont move out of the way until they are seemingly inches away from you

Just outside my front door I have several potted plants on a tiled seating area. Almost daily there is a steady stream of small ants that form a trail between the plants, and I love to sit and watch them run into each other as there is a going and returning line. I just imagine myself being high up in the sky and looking down on Thais walking on a sidewalk, and it looks just exactly like confused ants running into each other. In every country that I have ever visited, people walk on the sidewalk in the same directions as the traffic flows, but not in Thailand. There is zero space awareness, and the Thais just walk wherever they damn well please. It just seems so strange to me. I have even noticed lately that two of the hospitals that I visit have arrows on the steps indicating walking up on the right-hand side of the stairs and walking down on the left-hand side which is counter to the direction that traffic flows. This is just one more reason why I spend most of my day shaking my head in disbelief. 

Get married.

@Mark1969 With your reply, you are clearly illustrating your issue. 

 

 

Do you eat the same meal every day when on your home turf? I learn things from everywhere I go and use that in my everyday life. When I cook, I use those influences. Whereas you are pretty much stating that you only like the food that you know from back home, eschewing strange foreign food.

You've stopped learning. You are stuck somewhere.

 

Those who can still learn and adapt, can do so anywhere. Make the best of their situation. Those who cannot, will remain in a constant state of discomfort and anxiety.

For breakfast, I had 'no nitrite' bacon with scrambled eggs and a wholewheat croissant. For lunch, maybe some local street food or hole in the wall restaurant. For dinner, seafood noodles Jiangsu style. Does that sound as if I have 'gone native' or just have a broader palette with which to work? 

Whereas you appear locked into the same pattern. No growth.  You are looking for a problem that fits your solution. Some perfect place. Whereas I work with what is available and make it great. Adapt or die...

 

 

34 minutes ago, fittobethaied said:

Just outside my front door I have several potted plants on a tiled seating area. Almost daily there is a steady stream of small ants that form a trail between the plants, and I love to sit and watch them run into each other as there is a going and returning line. I just imagine myself being high up in the sky and looking down on Thais walking on a sidewalk, and it looks just exactly like confused ants running into each other. In every country that I have ever visited, people walk on the sidewalk in the same directions as the traffic flows, but not in Thailand. There is zero space awareness, and the Thais just walk wherever they damn well please. It just seems so strange to me. I have even noticed lately that two of the hospitals that I visit have arrows on the steps indicating walking up on the right-hand side of the stairs and walking down on the left-hand side which is counter to the direction that traffic flows. This is just one more reason why I spend most of my day shaking my head in disbelief. 

I never walk with my back to oncoming traffic anywhere in any country. One swerve and you're road kill. If you are facing traffic you can move.

 

Anyhow, I have noticed that in Thailand almost always when I'm walking against oncoming traffic people coming the other way will step to the inside (towards oncoming vehicles behind them). I used to deliberately step to the inside so they could have the curb (they can't see behind them), but I eventually got so fed up with their stupidity that I just ignored it and let them step into traffic since they wanted to.

@Mark1969 If I want someone to understand what I am doing, I make it easy for them. I make a hand gesture ushering them to safety. 95% of the time I am understood immediately and get a positive nod. Sometimes I have to repeat to make it clear. None of it is such an issue for me, that I stop caring. Whereas you have demonstrated that in fact it is you who is dropping your standards and no longer caring.

In my life it is quite the opposite, the locals and I are all taking care of each other. Compensating for any little mistakes/imperfections and not getting mad about it, at least not for long. Easy to dissipate any misunderstanding and restore peace and love. That's how it is in my world, which is confirmed with my interactions with people. Your world is different...because of you and the way you are.

You're not in a normal area. Suggest moving out if somewhere like Pattaya as it's not indicative of 'normal' Thai society and clearly doesn't suit you. In general, find Thais are great to be around. Perhaps don a pair of thick shades and wave a stick around.

Sounds like you need to find an inhabited island 

On 9/16/2025 at 10:00 AM, angryguy said:

Just dress like crap, works for me

 

as for thais who walk in front of me, yes it seems in asia everyone likes to get in each others way. Try skipping deodrant too if you can

   No, don't dress like crap and don't skip deodorant--there's way too many poorly dressed stinky farangs already.   Walk with a purpose without stopping, avoid eye contact, and you should be ok.

Big headphones and big sunglasses

RIGHT ON:

"""Whereas you appear locked into the same pattern. No growth.  You are looking for a problem that fits your solution. Some perfect place. Whereas I work with what is available and make it great....."""

 

It seams to me you have NOT learned as yet, that YOUR LOCATION and having a POSITIVE ATTITUDE goes a long way here.

 

In 12 years here, AFTER MOVING from the "Tourist Areas" in BKK & Pattaya,  I found, in the ISAAN region where I live, people are polite and friendly, NOT OVER FRIENDLY, not pushy.

 

I live in a 30 house village, a lake 2 minutes away and Immigration 15 minutes away and am greeted with a smile or head nod when walking or am out and about the village, this includes adults, children - the local soi dog will greet me,  the 3 cats living in the village are friendly and daily visitors.

 

A effort is made, when I am  shopping alone in a bigger town in the region, to talk to me in English by most adult and business people, sometimes times using the Google voice translator on the mobile.

 

I will admit, being the ONLY farang in a extended 20+ member family, ( I have lost count of ALL the rug rats ) at times is awkward, I am treated WELL as a family member - wife being my translator when I don't understand something.

 

Enjoying a good life here is called ADAPTING and having  a POSITIVE ATTITUDE.

 

EDIT:

As a young man, I never thought I would be living my last year's in a foreign country.  I have a ALMOST same lifestyle HERE, as I had "at home", ( almost - lack of 95% English speakers ) when I was working full time, but here it is a hell of a lot less expense.

 

On 9/16/2025 at 12:05 PM, JensenZ said:

Actually, Mark asked a good question.

 

I recently moved to my girlfriend's house, from Pattaya South, to a 100% Thai community on the outskirts of Pattaya. It is a Thai housing community of about 6000 people (my rough estimate). They are mostly working-class people with families. Basically, it's where the Thai people who work in Pattaya live. I haven't seen any bar girls who live here, as they prefer to live closer to the action. I'm not joking when I say I might see a foreigner or two every week. Very few live here, yet I'm only 5km from Terminal 21 or Pattaya Klang.

 

When I first arrived, I didn't know how to behave. Should I be greeting all the neighbours I meet in the corridors and car park? Would they view me as unfriendly if I didn't and become hostile toward me?... so I asked my girl how to behave. She said she hardly talks to anyone at all, including the close neighbours, and that's normal Thai behaviour. She doesn't look at them or talk to them, so I followed her advice. I do greet some here and there, but no one has "come at me" or tried to start a conversation. I'm just behaving the Thai way, and they seem to accept it. It's going on 5 months now, and I live here very peacefully, minding my own business.

 

I rented a room 2km from where I live to set up my home gym. I ride there every day to exercise, passing by farms and rice fields. It's a very different life from living in Pattaya Central, where I lived for 20 years. At the room where my gym is located, it's the same thing. I don't talk to neighbours, and they don't talk to me. If eyes meet, I greet them, and that's it.

 

 

Is this cheaper than paying a gym membership??

I'm wondering why you do that ??

Are you more into powerlifting?

Just look friendly and smile, the interaction will be over in a few seconds and you can just keep moving on. It's mainly an attitude thing. Smile and look positive and you can glide through most crowds. Because they think you are a kindred spirit, just quietly enjoying the day, and won't feel the need to intrude on your happiness.

On 9/16/2025 at 9:37 AM, Mark1969 said:

Any expats here who are not approached by Thai people much in daily life but still live in a densely populated area?

 

Please post tips on how you behave, interact or not, etc. Things I can do if I just want to be left alone in peace. I can avoid foreigners most of the time with avoidance body language, but the cues don't seem to work with Thai's.

 

I can't seem to get rid of Thai's "coming at me". I have tried various things, like no eye contact, just not responding, responding politely but superficially, not smiling, looking at the phone, etc but nothing seems to work particularly well consistently. Even tried some new age visualization aura shielding stuff.

 

The best technique so far is staring at the phone and not responding, but I can't do that all the time. Trying to avoid people is actually making it worse...??

 

Sorry if the post seems a tad anti-social...

I've lived in Bangkok for 17+ years.  I never have anyone 'coming at me'. 

What sort of Thais are approaching you?   

How old are you and how old do you dress? 

Where does it even happen?

You don't have a visa and want to go into hiding?

3 hours ago, Stevemercer said:

Just look friendly and smile, the interaction will be over in a few seconds and you can just keep moving on. It's mainly an attitude thing. Smile and look positive and you can glide through most crowds. Because they think you are a kindred spirit, just quietly enjoying the day, and won't feel the need to intrude on your happiness.

You may be correct. If I appear Ok, people may have less of a need to wonder about me and fix attention to determine why I seem avoidant. It's more like I'm unmemorable and don't really stick in the memory. Maybe I am trying too hard. It's still a distraction, but sometimes one must choose the lesser distraction.