12 minutes ago, Taboo2 said:

What is the issue? The arrogant Frenchie got a painful lesson learnt.  Why did he go off on the Bolt driver, who was alerting him?  

 

Well done Mr. Thai man.  I wish there were more incidents like these in Pattaya.  Too many arrogant Farangs coming here lately, and it is time for some good old fashion beat down by the Thais.

 

Respect this culture and find out! the hard way if you do not!

 

 

 

I had a similar situation ON a crossing in Pattaya and I reacted in a similar manner.................does that make me  arrogant for not accepting the Thai culture of ignoring pedestrians at zebra crossings?

16 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

A lot of guys will perceive it as a loss of face to walk away from a battle.

It's part of male warrior instinct. 

If a guy wrongs you and you walk away, many people will see themselves as cowards for doing so.

Or not standing up for what's right. 

You could get yourself killed or kicked out of the country, though.

So might be best to bury your ego.

 

I try to remind myself when I go out to be cautious of conflict.

If you're constantly stressed out and in a hurry to get around, it will make it worse.

So need to try to be in a relaxed state of mind and not stressed out and in a hurry. 

 

My Dad used to say to me, It takes more courage to walk away from a fight than it does to rush headlong into one.

5 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

I had a similar situation ON a crossing in Pattaya and I reacted in a similar manner

You struck the driver’s car? 

 

I see these reactions often by foreigners, it's very dangerous, don't be surprised if you get shot next time. 

 

Try chilling, roads and traffic are very different to where we come from. 

 

Try to hold back with violence, it doesn't get you anywhere. 

 

2 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

You struck the driver’s car? 

 

I see these reactions often by foreigners, it's very dangerous, don't be surprised if you get shot next time. 

 

Try chilling, roads and traffic are very different to where we come from. 

 

Try to hold back with violence, it doesn't get you anywhere. 

 

 

 

I am not a violent person but I was annoyed by the blatant disregard of the driver for the rights of a pedestrian. I simply shouted at him (I couldn't tell you if it was a Thai or foreigner) and 'slapped' his wing mirror. 

 

I took some comfort from the fact that this happened outside the police station on Beach Road/soi 9 and an officer of law was standing on the pavement.

I dont trust Zebra crossings in Thailand, if a car stops a bike comes up the inside, Not that long ago that woman doctor got killed by a policeman on a zebra crossing, he was riding his Ducati, 

19 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

The horn is a bit like the voice, it has its own language, a very gentle toot toot to let somebody know you're passing is very different than leaning on the horn, which is usually something that causes a great deal of offense here. 

Yes, totally agree, the gentle toot is a polite way of saying I'm here be careful, not get out of the way!

1 minute ago, mikeymike100 said:

Yes, totally agree, the gentle toot is a polite way of saying I'm here be careful, not get out of the way!

 

 

I agree ....but it is like any communication it has to be understood by both parties.

 

 

One one's "gentle toot" is another man's act of aggression.

 

 

Perhaps car horns should come with a scale of aggression.......from gentle toot (I am here) to a loud klaxton (get out of my way you fukwit).

15 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

I am not a violent person but I was annoyed by the blatant disregard of the driver for the rights of a pedestrian. I simply shouted at him (I couldn't tell you if it was a Thai or foreigner) and 'slapped' his wing mirror. 

 

I took some comfort from the fact that this happened outside the police station on Beach Road/soi 9 and an officer of law was standing on the pavement.

Take care mate. 

 

Lots crazies in town. 

 

18 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

In Thailand its customary to 'honk' at pedestrians crossing the road or other road users when say they exit a side road, to let them know you are there!

Maybe its different in France?

It's to tell the pedestrian to get out of the way because I will not stop for you, even on pedestrian crossings, Thai drivers will do the same, they rarely give way to pedestrians.

Just now, SAFETY FIRST said:

Take care mate 

 

 

It was a one-off..................I am not a great fighter and I am getting too old to run faster than an adversary! 🙂

Just now, Aussie999 said:

It's to tell the pedestrian to get out of the way because I will not stop for you, even on pedestrian crossings, Thai drivers will do the same, they rarely give way to pedestrians.

 

 

Many believe that flashing their lights also gives them priority over the rules of the road.

1 minute ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Many believe that flashing their lights also gives them priority over the rules of the road.

So true

Hope the "Frenchie" learnt a lesson not to hit cars...(twice) 

38 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

The horn is a bit like the voice, it has its own language, a very gentle toot toot to let somebody know you're passing is very different than leaning on the horn, which is usually something that causes a great deal of offense here. 

From my observations after retiring here, the Thais on motorbikes and cars get a bit upset if you react when they are trying to get your attention with their horns.  A simple "head bow" is all that is needed.  It is even better than waving your hand.  I use that all the time and nothing hapens.

10 minutes ago, Aussie999 said:

So true

In the USA, it is acceptable to flash your lights in the "Fast Lane".  Any other lane, and you are asking for road rage.  Not sure what it is like over here.

Just now, Taboo2 said:

In the USA, it is acceptable to flash your lights in the "Fast Lane".  Any other lane, and you are asking for road rage.  Not sure what it is like over here.

In Thailand they will flash lights telling you to get out of their way, they are coming through, no matter what lane.

14 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

It was a one-off..................I am not a great fighter and I am getting too old to run faster than an adversary! 🙂

A month or two ago, my mate was riding down soi Buakhou, one afternoon, around 2pm. 

 

My mate was riding his PCX, there was a foreigner, English guy, walking in the middle of the road ahead, outside Sutus Court hotel. My mate slowed down, asking the guy to move to his left, walk along the curb so the cars and bikes wouldn't hit him.

 

The English guy yelled out at my mate, my mate stopped, the English guy walked over and started punching my mate, saying he was fed up with f***ing Aussies.

 

Crikey, that Pom had some issues. 😂

 

36 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

You struck the driver’s car? 

 

I see these reactions often by foreigners, it's very dangerous, don't be surprised if you get shot next time. 

 

Try chilling, roads and traffic are very different to where we come from. 

 

Try to hold back with violence, it doesn't get you anywhere. 

 

Farangs, for reasons unknown think their arrogant behavior will be accepted in this country....and soon find out that Thais and all of S.E. Asia are just as violent or even more violent than us.  Thread carefully, your life is worth more than your immature ego and Western attitude.  Don't like it here, Swampi is waiting for you to leave.

1 minute ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

A month or two ago, my mate was riding down soi Buakhou, one afternoon, around 2pm. 

 

My mate was riding his PCX, there was a foreigner, English guy, walking in the middle of the road ahead, outside Sutus Court hotel. My mate slowed down, asking the guy to move to his left, walk along the curb so the cars and bikes wouldn't hit him.

 

The English guy yelled out at my mate, my mate stopped, the English guy walked over and started punching my mate, saying he was fed up with f***ing Aussies.

 

Crikey, that Pom had some issues. 😂

 

I think he was mad that some Aussie smashed his GF really, really good and then told him about it.....555555.

2 minutes ago, Taboo2 said:

I think he was mad that some Aussie smashed his GF really, really good and then told him about it.....555555.

The guy had serious issues, probably fed with seeing Aussies at the bar enjoying themselves 

8 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

A month or two ago, my mate was riding down soi Buakhou, one afternoon, around 2pm. 

 

My mate was riding his PCX, there was a foreigner, English guy, walking in the middle of the road ahead, outside Sutus Court hotel. My mate slowed down, asking the guy to move to his left, walk along the curb so the cars and bikes wouldn't hit him.

 

The English guy yelled out at my mate, my mate stopped, the English guy walked over and started punching my mate, saying he was fed up with f***ing Aussies.

 

Crikey, that Pom had some issues. 😂

 

 

Yes, Tossers come in every nationality.

6 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

Yes, Tossers come in every nationality.

Yes, agree.

I wasn't being disrespectful toward the English, some of my best friends are Poms. 

 

20 minutes ago, Taboo2 said:

From my observations after retiring here, the Thais on motorbikes and cars get a bit upset if you react when they are trying to get your attention with their horns.  A simple "head bow" is all that is needed.  It is even better than waving your hand.  I use that all the time and nothing hapens.

Very true. A simple acknowledgement of respect goes a long way here. 

18 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Battle of egos and the end result is violence.

Sometimes, you need to subjugate your own ego to avoid conflict because the other guy won't. 

 

One of the main reasons a lot of Thai people are carrying a gun in the car,to protect them from other people who act the same as they do.

14 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Yes, agree.

I wasn't being disrespectful toward the English, some of my best friends are Poms. 

 

 

 

.....and me with Aussies......usually great company

19 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

In Thailand its customary to 'honk' at pedestrians crossing the road or other road users when say they exit a side road, to let them know you are there!

Maybe its different in France?

In Thailand if you use your horn you are likely to cause an problem for yourself

 If Thais used hornes correctly to let a driver know they had done wrong maybe the driving standard would improve. 

 

 

19 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Photo via Facebook/ อธิปบูรพา

 

A French national named Nikolai was knocked unconscious after a confrontation with a Thai Bolt driver in Pattaya early on September 21. The incident occurred when an argument over road-crossing escalated into a physical assault, leaving the 55-year-old Nikolai with a serious head injury. He was transported to Bangkok Hospital Pattaya for treatment after a local witness alerted emergency services.

 

This altercation started as Nikolai attempted to cross a street outside a South Pattaya restaurant, not using a zebra crossing. The Bolt driver honked to alert him, leading to a confrontation after the Frenchman reportedly struck the driver’s car. Although initial contact seemed to have ended peacefully, Nikolai allegedly hit the car again, prompting the driver to respond violently.

 

The driver punched Nikolai in the face, causing him to collapse and lose consciousness upon hitting the ground. The driver then fled toward Phra Tamnak Mountain in his white Honda HR-V SUV. A witness captured the vehicle’s registration details, which have been shared with the authorities.

 

Police are currently waiting for Nikolai to recover before obtaining his version of events. Investigations include reviewing CCTV footage to identify and locate the attacker. This incident echoes a similar altercation in January, where a foreign tourist attacked a Thai Bolt driver over a conversation dispute, though the resolution of that case remains undisclosed.

 

Looking ahead, authorities are likely to continue reviewing surveillance footage and gathering eyewitness accounts to apprehend the suspect. Police emphasize the importance of using designated pedestrian crossings to prevent such disputes. High-profile cases like these highlight ongoing tensions between tourists and local service providers in the bustling city of Pattaya.

 

Key Takeaways

• A French national was injured in a confrontation with a Bolt driver in Pattaya.
• Police are investigating, using witness accounts and camera footage to find the driver.
• Similar incidents have occurred, indicating tensions in tourist-heavy areas.

 

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  Adapted by ASEAN Now from The Thaiger 2025-09-22

 

 

For you the war is over!

Pattaya is certain getting a reputation for the place not to be 

A few days back the Thai Tourist board said it was a safe and friendly place to be 

Not according to the news reports of late 😕 

18 hours ago, save the frogs said:

A lot of guys will perceive it as a loss of face to walk away from a battle.

It's part of male warrior instinct. 

If a guy wrongs you and you walk away, many people will see themselves as cowards for doing so.

Running away (not walking) works 95% of the time. Almost nobody does it though because it's so humiliating.

Some Thais have been circulating a joke that if Cambodia was to invade Thailand, they would quickly go home once they saw how Thais drive. 

While I agree that people visiting a country should respect the customs of that country, it is also true that Thai drivers black out their car windows so no one can actually see who is driving.  That sense of anonymity -- illegal in many countries -- empowers sleaze-bags to drive in a reckless and irresponsible manner, not understanding -- or caring -- that an automobile can be a serious weapon.  

The zebra stripe crossings are as much a part of international norms as a stop sign or red light.  While an increasing number of Thai drivers show courtesy by yielding to oncoming cars, and even pedestrians, many continue to demonstrate a reckless disregard for anything other than themselves.  

The narcissism of some Thai drivers is very much in contrast with the Buddhist teachings of this very Buddhist country.  Laws without enforcement are merely suggestions.  There is very little enforcement of traffic laws in Thailand, and most of us like it this way.  But with this relaxed "Jai yen yen" attitude goes a lot of serious abuse.  Eventually there will be more traffic cops, like the US and parts of Europe, and we will bitch about the good ole days without enforcement.   Pick your battles and be careful crossing the streets, Thailand is not Disney Land.