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Patong Bans Jewish New Year Event on Public Beach

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Just now, NanLaew said:

 

Judging by how Thailand's own history is taught in its schools, it has freedom of conflation too.

Well they're hardly alone in that.

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  • Maybe the land thieves should return the land to the originals land owners and end the Palestine conflict.

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    Israel is doing a pretty good job right now alienating the entire planet, making themselves into a pariah, showing that they are not a democracy on any level, and committing multiple forms of genocide

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10 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Nonsense. The allegation that the reported events of 7th October 2023 were a hoax was cooked up by Le Monde (surprise, surprise) in a totally salacious article. . The fact is that women, children and babies were horribly killed, and hostages were taken and tortured. 

You're a liar. The beheaded babies hoax was debunked by Haaretz.

Please stop lying now will you?

 

"In December 2023, Haaretz published the results of a comprehensive investigation into the violence of October 7. The conclusion was that while Hamas had committed real "atrocities" that day, some of the extreme acts attributed to the group never happened and were fueling denialism about October 7."

 

All sources on the wikipedia page linked above.

42 minutes ago, SeaBee said:

You're a liar. The beheaded babies hoax was debunked by Haaretz.

Please stop lying now will you?

 

"In December 2023, Haaretz published the results of a comprehensive investigation into the violence of October 7. The conclusion was that while Hamas had committed real "atrocities" that day, some of the extreme acts attributed to the group never happened and were fueling denialism about October 7."

 

All sources on the wikipedia page linked above.

Noted. You are calling me a liar. For the time being I will take that as nothing more than a petulant and childish comment. For the time being...

9 hours ago, garzhe said:

Sadly, nothing is going to change while the majority of the world's population believes in the supernatural, and that's not going to change anytime soon.

Stay off the weed my friend. 😉

6 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

On the 7th of October 2023 Israeli civilians were brutally murdered by palestinians. Girls and women were tortured, raped and killed, and babies were beheaded and burned alive. Hostages were taken, then starved and tortured.

Pure Israeli Propaganda, even Biden was stupid enough to believe those lying Israelis.

 
 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas_infant_beheading_hoax


The Hamas baby beheading hoax refers to allegations, since refuted, that Hamas beheaded dozens of babies and toddlers during the incursion it launched into southern Israel on October 7, 2023, which constituted the first phase of the Gaza war. The allegations were first made by soldiers of the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) and members of Israeli civilian rescue groups in interviews with local and international journalists. The hoax was initially endorsed by then-US President Joe Biden, the office of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and some IDF spokespeople, and was then spread credulously by Western media outlets, gaining widespread coverage and, arguably, helping to shape the consensus in favor of war on the Gaza Strip. Similar reports accused Hamas of hanging or slitting the throats of babies and burning others alive, including by stuffing at least one young child into a hot oven.[1]

 

14 minutes ago, JimCM said:

Pure Israeli Propaganda, even Biden was stupid enough to believe those lying Israelis.

 

 

   Not this again .

It was a mistranslation from a French media report .

Youngsters got translated into babies 

IDF said they couldn't confirm the stories 

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Not this again .

It was a mistranslation from a French media report .

Youngsters got translated into babies 

IDF said they couldn't confirm the stories 

IDF made up the lies. Even when showing you facts, you don’t listen.

 

 

 

Israeli news channel i24 alleged on Tuesday morning that the Al-Qassam Brigades, "beheaded many Israeli babies" during an early-Saturday attack from the Gaza Strip.

The i24 reporter who first made the allegation took to the X, saying "soldiers told me they believe 40 babies/children were killed."

 

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/despite-refutations-from-israeli-military-headlines-that-hamas-beheaded-babies-persist/3016167

10 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Israel is doing a pretty good job right now alienating the entire planet, making themselves into a pariah, showing that they are not a democracy on any level, and committing multiple forms of genocide against their neighbors. It used to be that there were a few different organizations in the Middle East that committed terror, now Israel has taken up that mantle committing terror against six different nations in the region, and completely decimating Gaza while trying to eliminate the Palestinian population entirely as a neighbor.

 

It would appear to me as a Centrist American Jew that Israel has not learned much from the Holocaust. 

 

It looks to me like they learned an awful lot - just all the wrong things. The Gaza Ghetto looks like the Warsaw Ghetto after the 1943 uprising now.

 

That one can learn something entirely different can be found in Viktor Frankl's books, especially 'Man's Search for Meaning'. He was an Auschwitz survivor and that is his tale and what he made out of it all. I don't think I could possibly have survived what he went through never mind come out of it with his compassion.

 

Israelis should hang their heads in shame for allowing the evil Gaza obscenity - they are as culpable as the Germans were in the Holocaust.

 

And that's the nub: Israel does not equate with Jewish (as your final sentence demonstrates) even if rogue Jews in government (like a PM desperate to avoid jail) are ordering soldiers to carry out the warcrimes and genocide in Gaza. The soldiers themselves, especially senior commanders, should remember that 'following orders' has not been a defence since Nuremberg in 1945. One of the main takeaways from the Holocaust that they seem to have forgotten.

 

As far as the Phuket ban goes, it makes me think the Thai authorities haven't thought this through properly. Jewish New Year is a religious celebration, not a celebration of Israel. And the Thai Friends of Palestine should take a step back and also consider their stance. Are they against Jews - or Israel?

 

Still, I'm glad the decision ain't mine.

9 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    They should rent a whole resort out and hold the celebrations there .

Public spaces are for public use

But that would cost some money and we all know how stingy they are...

8 hours ago, simon43 said:

Cann someone tell me why none of the other Arab nations in the Middle East accept the Palastinians to live in their countries?  After all, Saudi has a huge land area, for example.

Palastinians are the Gypsies of the Arab World

On 9/22/2025 at 4:08 AM, brfsa2 said:

Maybe the land thieves should return the land to the originals land owners and end the Palestine conflict.

So, you're saying that it should belong to the Canaanites??

Who are the direct descendants of the Canaanites??   Both the Jews & the Palestinians.

So, descendants of both cultures occupied the land of the current Israel going back about 12,000 years ago.

So, the original land owners were both cultures.

2 hours ago, SeaBee said:

The lies you are parroting have been debunked by israeli media themselves, shame on you.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas_infant_beheading_hoax

You're trying to use the fact that there were not 40 babies beheaded as a "Hoax" to show that 40 babies weren't killed (with at least 1 being beheaded).

Way to go trying to make the whole thing a hoax

2 hours ago, SeaBee said:

The lies you are parroting have been debunked by israeli media themselves, shame on you.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas_infant_beheading_hoax

Oh ok, I wish I knew that earlier , so they just butchered them cleanly like yeh.   Now I’m going on a pro Palestine march this sat 💯. Free free Palestine !!!! 🙄 

11 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Israel is doing a pretty good job right now alienating the entire planet, making themselves into a pariah, showing that they are not a democracy on any level, and committing multiple forms of genocide against their neighbors. It used to be that there were a few different organizations in the Middle East that committed terror, now Israel has taken up that mantle committing terror against six different nations in the region, and completely decimating Gaza while trying to eliminate the Palestinian population entirely as a neighbor.

 

It would appear to me, as a Centrist American Jew, that Israel has not learned much from the Holocaust. 

Hamas appreciates your support.

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   That shows one thing .

The Palestinians have an agenda against Jews

Its not just against Israelis 

I can’t imagine why?

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18 minutes ago, ChiTownEric said:

You're trying to use the fact that there were not 40 babies beheaded as a "Hoax" to show that 40 babies weren't killed (with at least 1 being beheaded).

Way to go trying to make the whole thing a hoax

Not the first hoax by these people.

They have been hoaxing for decades.

18 minutes ago, ChiTownEric said:

You're trying to use the fact that there were not 40 babies beheaded as a "Hoax" to show that 40 babies weren't killed (with at least 1 being beheaded).

Way to go trying to make the whole thing a hoax

NO babies were beheaded, and only one baby was killed on Oct 7.

in wish I could tell you how many babies have been killed by the IDF since then.

3 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

I can’t imagine why?

 

   Yes, they have  facade that they oppose Israel .

But its really Jews whom they oppose

58 minutes ago, JimCM said:

IDF made up the lies. Even when showing you facts, you don’t listen.

 

 

 

Israeli news channel i24 alleged on Tuesday morning that the Al-Qassam Brigades, "beheaded many Israeli babies" during an early-Saturday attack from the Gaza Strip.

The i24 reporter who first made the allegation took to the X, saying "soldiers told me they believe 40 babies/children were killed."

 

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/despite-refutations-from-israeli-military-headlines-that-hamas-beheaded-babies-persist/3016167

They lie and exaggerate constantly to justify the genocide of Gazans and the greedy land grabs in the West Bank.

3 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

I can’t imagine why?

Could it be 17  years of blockade?

Possibly all the deadly attacks on Israel, including one on 9 May 2023, with a series of air strikes on Gaza? Not many talk about that terrorist attack.

20 minutes ago, JimCM said:

NO babies were beheaded, and only one baby was killed on Oct 7.

in wish I could tell you how many babies have been killed by the IDF since then.

If you believe that, then I have some ocean front land in Arizona that I want to sell to ya!

14 minutes ago, JimCM said:

Wow, did Netanyahu say they were terrorists?

 

   Doesn't matter what he said .

You will still claim whatever you like .

You may as well just make things up and believe it yourself .

Keep saying it over and over again and it will be true

13 hours ago, Homburg said:

We should start a GoFundMe to support returning the land and paying reparations to Homo neanderthalensis who were driven out by Homo Sapiens. 

That would be a start, next the American Indians, blacks, and every other population ever displaced or genocided by the Brits and Americans. OK, well, how about if we just settle for decent and respectful treatment of everyone by everyone without discrimination or racism? 

Never a good idea to let groups have religious events at public places, especially when current events and issues make certain religious groups targets for trouble and violence. Thailand doesn't need that. If foreigners want to come here and enjoy and blend in, fine, but it's not your country to plant your religious flag on, and you should go home if you don't get that. 

6 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

   That freedom doesn't give anyone the right to occupy public spaces 

 

The State religion of Thailand is Buddhism. There is no separation of state and religion in Thailand. Have you looked at the mottos outside of military bases?

 

6 hours ago, In Full Agreement said:

The whole Palestinian matter is impossible.   So much grief on both sides.    Someday it may bring about    WW3.

 

The conflict has more to do with foreign interests than the locals. Russia and now China have always used Middle east conflict to destabilize the west. Iran is Russia's close ally and was a proxy for Russia in Syria and Iraq.

 

6 hours ago, tubby johnson said:

Now end the brutal Holocaust of Palestinians and hand back the Gaza and West Bank.

 

Many of the Arab casualties in Gaza are Hamas militants; fighters, supply and logistic  personnel and other operatives. There is a war. How is it a holocaust for them when they are killed  while attacking or in holding hostages or when one of their ammo dumps detonates? If you want to know what a genocide is, look no further than  Sudan's Darfur. An estimated 300,000 are now dead. Most were  slaughtered by muslim militias. Others  starved. And not a word from you.

 

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I know you're into the whole Old Testament, eye for an eye thing, and it does work in some instances. It is the lack of proportionality that's been insane. Israel is simply using this as an excuse to raze Gaza to the ground, this has little to do with payback. 

 

How else to remove Hamas? Everytime there  is a truce or a withdrawal by Israel, Hamas and its allies use it as an opportunity to rearm and to start firing missiles and rockets.

 

4 hours ago, Cameroni said:

The BBC is "demonizing" jews?

Okay.

 

The BBC reporting has been exceptionally biased. Please do not deny that the employees have a bias against Israel.

 

10 hours ago, daveAustin said:

The Thais are more pissed off with the way these people are behaving in their country, not to mention them blatantly slaughtering their neighbour. Take the word ‘Jew’ out of the equation and there is no more bigotry, just the observation of an aggressive, somewhat arrogant people acting up. 

 

Rubbish.Thais wouldn't know a Jew from a Papist from a Lutheran. They can sometimes identify Israelis, but in their eyes, they are all farang. The Israelis tend to be younger and in better shape but more scruffy and poorer than other foreign visitors and their behavior reflects that. The UK, Australian and Europeans  can be just as arrogant. Have you not seen how the  Italians and Germans  talk or rather shout at Thais? My Thai friends can't differentiate between  people who are black. Everyone to them is a "Nigerian" and I am told to watch my belongings. You know what their favourite drinking game used to be? Guess the chronic disease of the white farang or how he met his companion. The answers were usually not nice.

 

11 hours ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

".....encourage people to go eat diarrhea inducing food and drink beer at the beach."

I missed that last new year on the beach while watching the fireworks, where do I queue for such food, it sounds tasty. 🤣

 

It was awful. Fried items soaked in recycled dirty palm oil. The "chicken" had sat out in the heat for hours. Fish had a rancid stench, and of course the unknown origin sausage and fish balls that probably had worms and fungi spores.  And the beer was rarely cold.

 

11 hours ago, stevenl said:

That would be the rabbi of the local synagogue. The same guy who first suggested the event to be held at Rawai but got shut down.

When did Patong get a synagogue? They have the Chabad House which is a quasi charity outlet that offers a market for kosher food and a place for prayers and social events.  I walked by there a few times on my way to the German butcher who used to be across the street. He had some very good knockwurst, smoked ham and I could get a decent rye bread. Pity that he  just closed one year. I left around the same time.

13 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

It would appear to me as a Centrist American Jew that Israel has not learned much from the Holocaust. 

Nor have Kapos.

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Well they're hardly alone in that.

 

Maybe not, but they're top of the Premier League when it comes to rewriting their past.

1 hour ago, ChiTownEric said:

If you believe that, then I have some ocean front land in Arizona that I want to sell to ya!

Show me a factual link showing babies were beheaded or put in ovens. It’s all made up by Israel.

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