My 7 year old. nearly 8 Feb coming, according to my missus needs another army hair cut that I hate. It’s only just been growing 3 weeks. I drop off and pick up everyday and see many class mates with no full metal jacket or child hood cancer hair do. This teacher is just exercising authority and I want to challenge it. 

On 9/27/2025 at 7:13 AM, Stevey said:

My 7 year old. nearly 8 Feb coming, according to my missus needs another army hair cut that I hate. It’s only just been growing 3 weeks. I drop off and pick up everyday and see many class mates with no full metal jacket or child hood cancer hair do. This teacher is just exercising authority and I want to challenge it. 

Go on then. Challenge it.

On 9/27/2025 at 1:13 PM, Stevey said:

My 7 year old. nearly 8 Feb coming, according to my missus needs another army hair cut that I hate. It’s only just been growing 3 weeks. I drop off and pick up everyday and see many class mates with no full metal jacket or child hood cancer hair do. This teacher is just exercising authority and I want to challenge it. 

This is Thailand, they do have a few strange ways.......🤗

I personally would do nothing, you don't want it to rub off on your youngster at school.......

The haircut thing was abolished some time ago. It's just the teacher being....well...a teacher.

What is going to be the benefit to your child of you challenging the hair cut rule?

 

What is going to be the cost of to your child of you challenging the hair cut rule?

 

Children should learn to follow rules. Teaching them how to circumvent rules may not be a great idea. 

 

It grows back

 

 

 

1 minute ago, emptypockets said:

The haircut thing was abolished some time ago. It's just the teacher being....well...a teacher.

Not true apparently it's up to school still.

On 9/27/2025 at 1:13 PM, Stevey said:

My 7 year old. nearly 8 Feb coming, according to my missus needs another army hair cut that I hate. It’s only just been growing 3 weeks. I drop off and pick up everyday and see many class mates with no full metal jacket or child hood cancer hair do. This teacher is just exercising authority and I want to challenge it. 

Schools here are quite like Catholic schools back in the US. Everyone has to look the same. Much like Pink Floyd sings in the Wall. Less individuality and all must be sheep, to an extent. I went to Catholic school for 8 years and had to comply also, even though it didn't mean that much to me. I'm thinking it might not bother your son either, and you can't do much. The hair should be short, but doesn't have to be Army style. My 8 year old daughter has to comply also, even though she went to school for awhile with long hair. It's something that will change when we move back to the US, in a public school. For now, don't let it bother you, as it won't your son for awhile. He's your son and you have to compromise if your woman wants one thing and you another. More important battles to be fought.

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

True in a way but individualism is what should actually be practiced everywhere. I understand their thinking, wanting all students to look the same, but like sheep following the leader, it comes at a cost. That the young students don't really care either way is what lets this practice be okay, at least for now.

Why should individualism be practiced everywhere? That's ridiculous.

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

 

As far as going along with what is, it's what you should do, as a child doesn't want to be the only one who looks different, especially if they're half foreigner. When they get older, they can wear what they want in different schools, and wear their hair as they wish. Unless you move to another country or yes, put your child in another school that isn't strict in this way, it's all you can do. 

I like that the students are compelled to wear uniforms, and that they have to cut their hair. 

 

12 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Why should individualism be practiced everywhere? That's ridiculous.

I like that the students are compelled to wear uniforms, and that they have to cut their hair. 

 

Because we aren't sheep. Everyone is an individual and should feel this.

 

Some people do like all the students looking the same, but most don't. It's usually the parents who like the uniforms, while the students would rather wear what they want, as long as it's presentable.

 

All people should have personal expression, to show who they are and how they think. Children are supposed to rebel, to show who they are, to be different, at least in some ways.

 

Some think uniforms help a school spirit, which can be true, like being on a team, but many think the opposite, preferring individualism and more freedom. The cost is also more to stay in line with the school uniforms. It can save money or it can cost more, especially if the children can wear their own clothes.

 

As far as the hair, it should be clean, neat and if long, kept in a ponytail.  Uniforms are easier to enforce than with dress codes and there can't be gang colors in higher classes. There has been no evidence to support either side as far as grades are concerned.There are pros and cons on both sides. 

One of the reasons I bit the bullet and bled for kid's private school

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Because we aren't sheep. Everyone is an individual and should feel this.

 

Some people do like all the students looking the same, but most don't. It's usually the parents who like the uniforms, while the students would rather wear what they want, as long as it's presentable.

 

All people should have personal expression, to show who they are and how they think. Children are supposed to rebel, to show who they are, to be different, at least in some ways.

 

Some think uniforms help a school spirit, which can be true, like being on a team, but many think the opposite, preferring individualism and more freedom. The cost is also more to stay in line with the school uniforms. It can save money or it can cost more, especially if the children can wear their own clothes. There are pros and cons on both sides. 

Thailand should do what it wants to promote growing up the right way, not how most of the west does it, where discipline is in a real state........

 

I personally think Thailand has got it right, and is not farangland.....🤗

1 minute ago, heiri007 said:

One of the reasons I bit the bullet and bled for kid's private school

Over a kid's school hair cut..................

1 minute ago, transam said:

Thailand should do what it wants to promote growing up the right way, not how most of the west does it, where discipline is in a real state........

 

I personally think Thailand has got it right, and is not farangland.....🤗

The only thing wrong there is that Thai schools pale by comparison to western ones. Students are passed even if they fail, and that doesn't prepare them for higher grades if they're to go on. Of course Thailand has it's personal problem of having many more children growing up without fathers, much like black families back home, but not limited to one race like there. Discipline here is still corporal in many schools, which is illegal and doesn't happen in the west. My daughter is learning more with me at home than she'll ever learn in a Thai school, and it the main reason I will bring her back home, as the schools and future is much better for her, especially as a girl.

1 minute ago, transam said:

Over a kid's school hair cut..................

You see how this brainwashed society ends up

 

Hairstyle is just a small piece of the puzzle

 

Don't tell me you insist that families in Thailand are intact, all I see are single-parent kids (left with the mother and then grandma)

 

The rule here is disregard for anything beyond the imminent self (a.k.a. most Thais still don't care about pollution, the world is one big rubbish bin)

 

Not to mention completely unhinged politics

 

Don't get me started with seniority-rules even in private companies...

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Because we aren't sheep. Everyone is an individual and should feel this.

Everyone is an individual, the idea that everyone has to dress differently to believe they are an individual is silly, And it's not like the child is showing their individuality, they just where what you buy them to wear. 

 

The parent just wants to project their "individuality" onto the child. 

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Some people do like all the students looking the same, but most don't. It's usually the parents who like the uniforms, while the students would rather wear what they want, as long as it's presentable.

Exactly. You want the child to be in charge.

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

All people should have personal expression, to show who they are and how they think. Children are supposed to rebel, to show who they are, to be different, at least in some ways.

It's a school, let them express themselves intellectually. 

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Some think uniforms help a school spirit, which can be true, like being on a team, but many think the opposite, preferring individualism and more freedom. The cost is also more to stay in line with the school uniforms. It can save money or it can cost more, especially if the children can wear their own clothes. As far as the hair, it should be clean, neat and if long, kept in a ponytail. There are pros and cons on both sides. 

How about the school being able to focus on education rather that fighting with parents or what kids can wear? 

4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

The only thing wrong there is that Thai schools pale by comparison to western ones. Students are passed even if they fail, and that doesn't prepare them for higher grades if they're to go on. Of course Thailand has it's personal problem of having many more children growing up without fathers, much like black families back home, but not limited to one race like there. Discipline here is still corporal in many schools, which is illegal and doesn't happen in the west. My daughter is learning more with me at home than she'll ever learn in a Thai school, and it the main reason I will bring her back home, as the schools and future is much better for her, especially as a girl.

I can tell you with absolute certainty, that the K-12 education my boy received in Thailand far exceeded the education he would have received in 95% of the schools in the US. 

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

I can tell you with absolute certainty, that the K-12 education my boy received in Thailand far exceeded the education he would have received in 95% of the schools in the US. 

 

you can tell it, but can you prove it? evidence please?

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

The only thing wrong there is that Thai schools pale by comparison to western ones. Students are passed even if they fail, and that doesn't prepare them for higher grades if they're to go on. Of course Thailand has it's personal problem of having many more children growing up without fathers, much like black families back home, but not limited to one race like there. Discipline here is still corporal in many schools, which is illegal and doesn't happen in the west. My daughter is learning more with me at home than she'll ever learn in a Thai school, and it the main reason I will bring her back home, as the schools and future is much better for her, especially as a girl.

Thai schools have some sort of discipline, where in the West, teachers FEAR doing anything. It has nothing to do with the quality of teaching, that is their business, not from someone from the West.

In England at my primary school, near 70 years back we had to wear a uniform, including a cap, taught how to look smart. In secondary school, a uniform and cap.

 

If the Western folk want school kids to look like slobs, that is their problem, Thailand has got something right, having pride in one's self, and appearance whilst at school...

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Everyone is an individual, the idea that everyone has to dress differently to believe they are an individual is silly, And it's not like the child is showing their individuality, they just where what you buy them to wear. 

 

The parent just wants to project their "individuality" onto the child. 

Exactly. You want the child to be in charge.

It's a school, let them express themselves intellectually. 

How about the school being able to focus on education rather that fighting with parents or what kids can wear? 

You're talking about the younger crowd, as this OP stated, so yes, the child has to wear what their parents buy them. later they make their own choices, which is good for them, as it shows, individuality.

 

Yes, some parents want their children to look a certain way, which is more on them than the child. This is also not good, as it takes away that individuality and has them doing what the parent thinks is right. If the child would be in charge, they would wear what they like, and most don't like uniforms. Some do, most don't.

 

I grew up in a catholic school for 8 years, and we did what we were told, or were disciplined. Others in public schools wore what they wanted, and had more freedom to express themselves, as long as they kept clean and neat, the schools were okay with how they dressed, and it didn't affect their grades in either school. Intellectually is important of course, but more important is blending in with their own kind, as children who are left out suffer tremendously , especially as teens.

 

Schools should always focus on education, but some schools have teachers who plainly do not do the job they should, and here they get away with a lot more than back home.

8 minutes ago, heiri007 said:

You see how this brainwashed society ends up

 

Hairstyle is just a small piece of the puzzle

 

Don't tell me you insist that families in Thailand are intact, all I see are single-parent kids (left with the mother and then grandma)

 

The rule here is disregard for anything beyond the imminent self (a.k.a. most Thais still don't care about pollution, the world is one big rubbish bin)

 

Not to mention completely unhinged politics

 

Don't get me started with seniority-rules even in private companies...

Eeeeeeer, we are talking about school dress code and appearance at SCHOOL.......

🤣

4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I can tell you with absolute certainty, that the K-12 education my boy received in Thailand far exceeded the education he would have received in 95% of the schools in the US. 

That's a guess and untrue. The schools here are far behind what they are in the US, and the futures for most of the students here also pales by comparison to what they can achieve in the US, especially regarding their pay. My daughter's school here teaches them very little, especially compared to my other 5 children's US schools at the same level.

4 minutes ago, it is what it is said:

 

you can tell it, but can you prove it? evidence please?

Why would I need to prove it to some know-nothing? 

4 minutes ago, transam said:

Thai schools have some sort of discipline, where in the West, teachers FEAR doing anything. It has nothing to do with the quality of teaching, that is their business, not from someone from the West.

In England at my primary school, near 70 years back we had to wear a uniform, including a cap, taught how to look smart. In secondary school, a uniform and cap.

 

If the Western folk want school kids to look like slobs, that is their problem, Thailand has got something right, having pride in one's self, and appearance whilst at school...

I've had 5 children who went to public schools in Texas, and they always were dressed neat and presentable, as were their peers. They don't get away with being slobs besides in some large cities schools, where dress is just a minor problem. I was in a public high school, and there also wasn't a problem with dress of the students, and still isn't, as I still have friends living in the same town who have children in the same schools. I really don't have much against uniforms, as the child will eventually be allowed to wear what they like in the higher grades. I'm just teaching my daughter here, as i did with my other 5, that they're all individuals and what matters most is how they feel about themselves and how they treat others. Teachers don't fear disciplining students in the US, again besides a few big city schools where chaos is the norm. The majority have little problems with the students dress. 

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

You're talking about the younger crowd, as this OP stated, so yes, the child has to wear what their parents buy them. later they make their own choices, which is good for them, as it shows, individuality.

 

Yes, some parents want their children to look a certain way, which is more on them than the child. This is also not good, as it takes away that individuality and has them doing what the parent thinks is right. If the child would be in charge, they would wear what they like, and most don't like uniforms. Some do, most don't.

 

I grew up in a catholic school for 8 years, and we did what we were told, or were disciplined. Others in public schools wore what they wanted, and had more freedom to express themselves, as long as they kept clean and neat, the schools were okay with how they dressed, and it didn't affect their grades in either school. Intellectually is important of course, but more important is blending in with their own kind, as children who are left out suffer tremendously , especially as teens.

 

Schools should always focus on education, but some schools have teachers who plainly do not do the job they should, and here they get away with a lot more than back home.

And, at least in the US, the quality of education is generally far superior to that of the public schools, correct?

 

What is the suicide rate for kids in US?

 

Have you noticed how little vandalism there is here? 

 

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I've had 5 children who went to public schools in Texas, and they always were dressed neat and presentable, as were their peers. They don't get away with being slobs besides in some large cities schools, where dress is just a minor problem. I was in a public high school, and there also wasn't a problem with dress of the students, and still isn't, as I still have friends living in the same town who have children in the same schools. I really don't have much against uniforms, as the child will eventually be allowed to wear what they like in the higher grades. I'm just teaching my daughter here, as i did with my other 5, that they're all individuals and what matters most is how they feel about themselves and how they treat others. Teachers don't fear disciplining students in the US, again besides a few big city schools where chaos is the norm. The majority have little problems with the students dress. 

You keep comparing a First World country with a near Third World country....🤭

 

Now back to the girls looking smart with school type hair trimming...😉

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

And, at least in the US, the quality of education is generally far superior to that of the public schools, correct?

 

What is the suicide rate for kids in US?

 

Have you noticed how little vandalism there is here? 

 

The rate for suicides in both countries is almost the same. Vandalism rates are higher in the US but intentional homicides are about the same. There are gangs in both places but less here because there are only a few large cities in Thailand compared to the US, where most crime occurs, and the population is much higher in the US. 

6 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

That's a guess and untrue. The schools here are far behind what they are in the US, and the futures for most of the students here also pales by comparison to what they can achieve in the US, especially regarding their pay. My daughter's school here teaches them very little, especially compared to my other 5 children's US schools at the same level.

I went to k-12 and university in the US, as did my siblings and all my nieces and nephews and all my friends' kids.  My brother teaches law at A & M, and my sister teaches business at Bailer. I think I have an idea what a decent education is. My boy ran rings around his cousins every time we visited. 

 

Why would you not move your daughter is you think the school is crappy?

10 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I went to k-12 and university in the US, as did my siblings and all my nieces and nephews and all my friends' kids.  My brother teaches law at A & M, and my sister teaches business at Bailer. I think I have an idea what a decent education is. My boy ran rings around his cousins every time we visited. 

 

Why would you not move your daughter is you think the school is crappy?

I also went to school for those years and the US plainly has much better schooling. My Thai friend here, 71, an English speaking school owner here for decades, has told me many times to get my daughter to the US as soon as I can so she can have a much better education. He sees daily how poorly the students do here. especially in English and in work afterwards, even if they go to college.He was trained in the US and is known countrywide here as a go to as far as schooling in English.

 

My son is in college in the US. My daughters are all working in good paying jobs and my granddaughter just got a scholarship to Texas A&M. The futures of most students here is 300-500 Baht a day or back on the farms, whereas anyone who wants can get a decent paying job with a high school diploma back home. No comparison, and another thing, is my daughter will have a extremely better chance of finding a suitable husband there than she ever would here. Of course the boys here have it made for obvious reasons, as the girls are far less independent. 

57 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Because we aren't sheep. Everyone is an individual and should feel this.

 

Some people do like all the students looking the same, but most don't. It's usually the parents who like the uniforms, while the students would rather wear what they want, as long as it's presentable.

 

All people should have personal expression, to show who they are and how they think. Children are supposed to rebel, to show who they are, to be different, at least in some ways.

 

Some think uniforms help a school spirit, which can be true, like being on a team, but many think the opposite, preferring individualism and more freedom. The cost is also more to stay in line with the school uniforms. It can save money or it can cost more, especially if the children can wear their own clothes.

 

As far as the hair, it should be clean, neat and if long, kept in a ponytail.  Uniforms are easier to enforce than with dress codes and there can't be gang colors in higher classes. There has been no evidence to support either side as far as grades are concerned.There are pros and cons on both sides. 

Part of the reasoning for school uniforms is to put everyone on an equal platform. Poor peoples children in a sense are equal to the hiso kids.

1 minute ago, flexomike said:

Part of the reasoning for school uniforms is to put everyone on an equal platform. Poor peoples children in a sense are equal to the hiso kids.

Like I mentioned, there are pros and cons, good ones, for either side, and as far as the younger crowd, meaning pre-teens, it's not a problem.