It might apply to other countries @fredwiggy but Americans, who claim theirs to be the best country in the world, are notorious for it. That's the point that cannot be denied.

 

Anyway, back to ex bar girls. Is yours one?

 

When you need to be verified by Cloudflare to edit your own post, you know the board is messed up.

3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

So maybe they should have reduced the working hours for men and let men spend more time at home.

And reduced hours for women.

So both men and women can participate in the workforce and take care of the marriage and the family?

But cost of living needed to go down.

That's not what they wanted though.

Also, notice that wages were stagnant precisely because women flooded the workforce. So could be a "conspiracy" for companies to keep wages down. 

 

Many men aren't the type who stay home and take care of the children, even if it's just part of the time. Traditional thinkers, which isn't what makes the wives happy. Both should do their share of everything. The workforce began with traditional thinking, with women looked at as housewives, until they wanted different. Now it's become where a family does best with both working, especially if the children are in school. Some put their children in daycares at 1 year old, which to me is wrong, thinking at least the mom should stay home until the child goes to kindergarten. 

Nice... @fredwiggy So do you have any experience with taking girls out of the bar?

23 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Thais are bad with directions.

have you ever shown a taxi bike googlemaps? their brains freeze

Just now, JakeC said:

Nice... @fredwiggy So do you have any experience with taking girls out of the bar?

No, I haven't been with a lady of the night since I was 18. I prefer relatively normal women who are just your everyday kind, going from nutcases to very smart, loving and honest women. 

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So you take the girl out of the bar. Now what?

 

Many then try to take the bar out of the girl... and fail miserably. 

 

Generally, bar girls and hookers are for having fun with, not for marrying or long-term relationships... there will be a tiny fraction that buck the trend, but it's a fairly correct saying. Also, the smart guys follow the 3-day rule when it comes to these girls in Pattaya etc., good idea.

@fredwiggy So why are you the top poster in an ex bar girl thread, if you have no experience at all? 

I was trying to steer the conversation back to the topic. Anyway, good that you have a relatively normal girlfriend now.

7 minutes ago, JakeC said:

@fredwiggy So why are you the top poster in an ex bar girl thread, if you have no experience at all? 

I was trying to steer the conversation back to the topic. Anyway, good that you have a relatively normal girlfriend now.

After listening to many people who's lives have been altered, ruined or improved by taking a bar girl home, for many years on a few forums, along with firsthand friend's experiences,  you get an idea what goes on. And my girlfriend is normal, and probably the most honest woman I've ever met.

2 hours ago, JakeC said:

@BritManToo Life of leisure...like most other wives in the world? I guess your thumb was planted firmly in your cheek when you wrote that.

 

While his "thumb was firmly planted in his cheek" [sic], doubtless he was giving you knowing "tongues up".

@Liverpool Lou I have no idea how 'tongue' was replaced by 'thumb' :)

50 minutes ago, JakeC said:

@fredwiggy So why are you the top poster in an ex bar girl thread, if you have no experience at all? 

I was trying to steer the conversation back to the topic. Anyway, good that you have a relatively normal girlfriend now.

For Fred,

I'm betting she'll turn out to be a narcissist in the end!

 

For everyone else,

They're all normal when they move in, but all completely bonkers when they leave.

 

For me,

Mine was batpoop crazy when she moved in, 16 years later still batpoop crazy.

8 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

It is very common in Thailand for customers to fall for the Ladies of the Night much like in the Hollywood hit Pretty Woman.

 

So then jealousy kicks in and you don’t want her out there plying her trade every night being soiled by hundreds of men.

 

So you pay her monthly not to work in the sex industry.

 

So now what? Should she get a normal job? Or can she just have a life of pleasure living it up?

 

It depends if the guys live here full time or are multiple visitors.

 

I have seen when the guys live here permanently their women of the night do not work.

 

If the guys are visiting for periods of time throughout the year, once the guys leave the woman is then with sponsor number 1,2,3,4......

 

I have heard lots of stories through a guy who had a restaurant in Phuket for twenty years.

 

He had friends who owned bars who told him what games are played and on one occasion three guy where sitting around a very large bar and had come to see the same girl they 'sponsored', they were each told separately the girls dad was sick so she had to go home.

 

Don't forget a lot of farangs think it is normal to also support the woman's family as well as the frequently sick buffalo as these guys only mix with other guys doing the same thing and so they think it is the norm.

 

 

1 minute ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

 

 

 

He had friends who owned bars who told him what games are played and on one occasion three guy where sitting around a very large bar and had come to see the same girl they 'sponsored', they were each told separately the girls dad was sick so she had to go home.

 

 

 

 

 

Ive been balls deep when the sponsor calls.. is rather amusing.

 

I'll bet many here have done the same.

10 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

For Fred,

I'm betting she'll turn out to be a narcissist in the end!

 

For everyone else,

They're all normal when they move in, but all completely bonkers when they leave.

 

For me,

Mine was batpoop crazy when she moved in, 16 years later still batpoop crazy.

No, you either are or you aren't, and it starts in childhood.

Just now, fredwiggy said:

No, you either are or you aren't, and it starts in childhood.

It is possible to trigger latent mental health issues because of life crises, such as abuse and accidentally happenings in life. 

 

 

8 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

Most women work nowadays.

 

This setup is going back in time. 

 

Only problem is if the man gets abusive, then the woman has to extricate herself and go back to the bars.

 

Or in one case, the bar girl said her farang bf/husband was going on a downward spiral with drugs, so back in the bar she went. 

 

 

 

 

Most women have been working for decades even when married. 

 

Why do the women you mention have to go back and work in a bar, you have fallen for excuse number 34 in the bar girls hand book, "I have to do job bar girl as boyfriend he no good, we finish"

 

There are plenty of other jobs for the 1% of the population of Thailand who drop to selling themselves in a bar, most other Thai women hate them.

Just now, JamesPhuket10 said:

There are plenty of other jobs for the 1% of the population of Thailand who drop to selling themselves in a bar, most other Thai women hate them.

Most other Thai women wish they were attractive enough to earn money that easily.

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

It is possible to trigger latent mental health issues because of life crises, such as abuse and accidentally happenings in life. 

 

 

Narcissistic personality starts in teen years, although it's implanted before. 

8 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Find one that can work

 

The bar girls are still working, the aim is to find a stupid farang who will fall for their story, the next chapter is then to milk the stupid farang until he is dry and then get the next one, that is the next phase of the job.

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

Most other Thai women wish they were attractive enough to earn money that easily.

And millions are, but aren't going to go that route.

13 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Narcissistic personality starts in teen years, although it's implanted before. 

There will always be a variety of specter (or in what spectrum they are) no matter which mental health disorders people have, as well the intellectual awareness. Some actually do know their strength and weaknesses and also knows how to use and abuse their resources.

 

 

Not quite off-topic question, as it can relate to bar girls too. Do narcissists know they are narcissists or are they so entwined in their own narratives that they actually believe they are victims?

Is it all just relative, wherein one man's narcissist is almost normal to one who is used to chaos?

 

I have some examples if anyone cares to discuss. 

7 hours ago, habuspasha said:

Even my decent salary of 60-75,000 hardly permits "a life of pleasure living it up", especially as two boys become teens.  

 

You think 60 to 75k is a decent salary ? Yikes.

Would the person who placed a ''thumbs down" on the question on narcissists care to comment?

I'm guessing that only a narcissist would care enough to be triggered to do that, instead of discussion. Happy to be shown to be wrong. But I guess they will stay silent...

6 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Most other Thai women wish they were attractive enough to earn money that easily.

 

Your view is reflection of the circles you mix with, the lower echelon it seems.

 

What do you base your information on, I know gossip with bar girls and other guys who buy their services. 😄

 

1 minute ago, blaze master said:

 

You think 60 to 75k is a decent salary ? Yikes.

 

If it is £60k to £70k (or even dollars) a year then it should be easy to live on that in Thailand

@blaze master 60k to 75k is 'decent' in Thailand. They didn't write "wealthy". At least TRY to not be nasty. I don't know what has happened to you. Your most every post seems like a Troll.

5 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

 

Your view is reflection of the circles you mix with, the lower echelon it seems.

 

What do you base your information on, I know gossip with bar girls and other guys who buy their services. 😄

 

All my woman's pals seem to be normal Thai women.

Mainly single moms living with their elderly parents.

Sometimes elderly parents enduring their broke adult children living with/off them.

 

I don't need to pretend to be better than I am!

10 minutes ago, JakeC said:

Not quite off-topic question, as it can relate to bar girls too. Do narcissists know they are narcissists or are they so entwined in their own narratives that they actually believe they are victims?

Is it all just relative, wherein one man's narcissist is almost normal to one who is used to chaos?

 

I have some examples if anyone cares to discuss. 

At least not me, if you wondered 🤗

 

 

9 minutes ago, JakeC said:

Not quite off-topic question, as it can relate to bar girls too. Do narcissists know they are narcissists or are they so entwined in their own narratives that they actually believe they are victims?

Is it all just relative, wherein one man's narcissist is almost normal to one who is used to chaos?

 

I have some examples if anyone cares to discuss. 

No, most aren't self aware. In denial of their flaws, and would probably never admit it if they were diagnosed, as happens during many diagnoses. They'll either shift blame to others or will justify their behavior, thinking using people is what everyone does.