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Debunking Claim that COVID-19 Vaccines Saved Millions of Lives

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3 hours ago, Fact said:

This is the most foolish post I have seen on this site as of today.

 

I'll wager you believe the Earth is flat, the moon is made of cheese, and 9/11 was an inside job.

There was no pandemic bro. There is no such thing as a covid virus.

 

You are easily fooled Sir.

 

As for the moon being made of cheese? Well! That's a known fact. Very nice too.

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  • Anyone posting on this thread is a dullard. but Red Phoenix keeps trying to push his Anti Vax theories on us yet again. It was only over the weekend he tried again with a different thread. Give it up

  • Anyone who thinks that the vax was anything but a money grab by big pharma is a dullard 

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    Debunking the claim that anyone should believe one word out of Peter McCullough's mouth relating to COVID. The OP article is a bunch of typical non-credible anti-vaxer nonsense from disreputable sourc

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1 hour ago, Purdey said:

Thanks. Doesn't the OP ever do any study about who he is quoting?

Yes I do, and dr Peter McCullough was the most renowned cardiologist in the US, and initially supported the mRNA jabs before the evidence of grave cardiac harm and deaths of his Covid-19 vaxxed patients, led him to question the '100% safe and effective' narrative of these poison-shots. 

 

It's a real eye-opener to compare the Wikipedia article on dr McCullough's career before his critical stance on this issue, with the current 'hit-job'.   The same goes for dr Aseem Malhotra, the UK's top cardiologist who also was promoting mRNA vaccines before his father died of the shots.  Idem dito for prof dr Angus Dalgleish, world renowned oncologist who is now being smeared as a 'loony conspiracy theorist'.  And the list goes on and on.  It's a career and reputation killer when you dare to ask critical questions about these shots.

 

As W. Clement Stone wrote: 

Truth will always be truth, regardless of lack of understanding, disbelief or ignorance.

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30 minutes ago, DonniePeverley said:

In hindsight alot of this was shameful. But mentally we were all done with the virus that we became desperate.

There was i remember at the time a genuine fear that those who didn't take the vaccine would catch it then continue to spread it around. But then they started to taper down and say you could still catch it even with the vaccine, but it reduced your illness - so at that point it made no sense to mandate people to get it. 

 

I had to get it for travel and to get into Thailand. 

Of course many countries wanted tourists to have the vaccine because they did not want to burden their health system in case anyone became ill. 

 

In short, the large majority of people believed the lies that they were fed, and any critique of the narrative was squashed.  

And they kept on believing the lies, even when the narrative had to be continually adapted as it was not tenable. 

 

From your post I gather that you had some reservations on getting jabbed in order to enter Thailand.  

But it looks like you still believe in the benign effects of the mRNA shot.  

The irony being that the health system of those countries that enforced people to take these poison-shots, is now being burdened by the adverse effects of the jabs (e.g. the explosion of aggressive cancers, cardiac issues like strokes, organ failure, etc. etc.) 

7 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

In short, the large majority of people believed the lies that they were fed, and any critique of the narrative was squashed.  

And they kept on believing the lies, even when the narrative had to be continually adapted as it was not tenable. 

 

From your post I gather that you had some reservations on getting jabbed in order to enter Thailand.  

But it looks like you still believe in the benign effects of the mRNA shot.  

The irony being that the health system of those countries that enforced people to these poison-shots, is now being burdened by the adverse effects of the jabs (e.g. the explosion of aggressive cancers, cardiac issues like strokes, organ failure, etc. etc.) 

 

 

Is there any official data on what you posted regarding illnesses from the covid vaccine or any direct links?

 

I know in the UK many had the astrazeneca which is now stopped hasn't it. Was that one better or worst ?

2 hours ago, Purdey said:

Thanks. Doesn't the OP ever do any study about who he is quoting?

 

Yes, that they're invariable all non-credible garbage anti-vaxer sources, typically anonymous or those with documented histories of rampant misinformation.

 

 

On 9/30/2025 at 8:12 AM, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Yes, that they're invariable all non-credible garbage anti-vaxer sources, typically anonymous or those with documented histories of rampant misinformation.

 

Spouting nonsense again.

 

If white-coats could speak out without risking their careers, I'm sure quite a few would do so. But as Red points out, it's a career killer to question the worth of any vaccine.

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39 minutes ago, DonniePeverley said:

Is there any official data on what you posted regarding illnesses from the covid vaccine or any direct links?

I know in the UK many had the astrazeneca which is now stopped hasn't it. Was that one better or worst ?

 

There are tons of data of rising deaths, harms and illnesses after the roll-out of the 'protective' Covid-19 shots.  

Most are buried in Public Health data-bases and obviously there are little to no funds available to research the connection, and so it are only non-funded independent researchers that publish articles/studies on that very real phenomenon.  Such articles/studies also face acceptance difficulties in the main scientific medical journals, as they threaten the narrative of Big Pharma and these journals rely on the advertisements and funding of 'the hand that feeds them'.   And so when they do get published it is on little known media, which are then deemed 'untrustworthy' by (Pharma paid) fact-checkers, as one of the posters on this sub-forum keeps on reminding everybody (but as good as never addressing the actual content).  

 

On this sub-forum there are +200 threads addressing the Great Big Lie known as 'the accepted Covid-19 and Vaccine narrative', and many of them do provide facts and data about the harms of these poison-shots. 

I suggest you browse the threads, as there is a wealth of information available on that specific issue. 

https://aseannow.com/forum/466-covid-other-vaccine-studies/

 

Here already an example of a recently published article published in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons (Fall 2025) titled > COVID-19 Injections: Harms and Damages, a Non-Exhaustive Conclusion

https://jpands.org/vol30no3/zywiec.pdf

It was addressed in this thread > https://aseannow.com/topic/1371374-covid-19-shots-harms-and-damages-a-non-exhaustive-conclusion/ 

 

More of the same nonsense garbage content and sources:

 

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"Overall, we rate the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) as an extreme right Questionable source based on the promotion of quackery level pseudoscience, conspiracy theories, use of poor sources, a lack of transparency with funding as well as numerous false claims, and failed fact checks."

 

"AAPS has also published a medical journal since 1996, called the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons (JPandS). This journal is not listed in academic literature databases such as MEDLINE/PubMed due to the publication of information that lacks scientific validity. Further, the U.S. National Library of Medicine declined repeated requests from AAPS to index the journal. Finally, JPandS was listed on Beall’s list of potential or probable predatory open-access journals, with Chemical and Engineering News describing the journal as a “purveyor of utter nonsense.”  [emphasis added]

 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/association-of-american-physicians-and-surgeons-aaps/

 

 

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1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

More of the same nonsense garbage content and sources:

 

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"Overall, we rate the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) as an extreme right Questionable source based on the promotion of quackery level pseudoscience, conspiracy theories, use of poor sources, a lack of transparency with funding as well as numerous false claims, and failed fact checks."

 

"AAPS has also published a medical journal since 1996, called the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons (JPandS). This journal is not listed in academic literature databases such as MEDLINE/PubMed due to the publication of information that lacks scientific validity. Further, the U.S. National Library of Medicine declined repeated requests from AAPS to index the journal. Finally, JPandS was listed on Beall’s list of potential or probable predatory open-access journals, with Chemical and Engineering News describing the journal as a “purveyor of utter nonsense.”  [emphasis added]

 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/association-of-american-physicians-and-surgeons-aaps/

 

 

 

@DonniePeverley

Quod erat demonstrandum 

And so when they do get published it is on little known media, which are then deemed 'untrustworthy' by (Pharma paid) fact-checkers, as one of the posters on this sub-forum keeps on reminding everybody (but as good as never addressing the actual content).  

5 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

More of the same nonsense garbage content and sources:

 

Screenshot_1.jpg.64e36bbfeddf033ead5a5335faccfc22.jpg

 

"Overall, we rate the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) as an extreme right Questionable source based on the promotion of quackery level pseudoscience, conspiracy theories, use of poor sources, a lack of transparency with funding as well as numerous false claims, and failed fact checks."

 

"AAPS has also published a medical journal since 1996, called the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons (JPandS). This journal is not listed in academic literature databases such as MEDLINE/PubMed due to the publication of information that lacks scientific validity. Further, the U.S. National Library of Medicine declined repeated requests from AAPS to index the journal. Finally, JPandS was listed on Beall’s list of potential or probable predatory open-access journals, with Chemical and Engineering News describing the journal as a “purveyor of utter nonsense.”  [emphasis added]

 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/association-of-american-physicians-and-surgeons-aaps/

 

More fact-checking nonsense.

 

Who is fact checking these fact-checkers?

23 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

@DonniePeverley

Quod erat demonstrandum 

And so when they do get published it is on little known media, which are then deemed 'untrustworthy' by (Pharma paid) fact-checkers, as one of the posters on this sub-forum keeps on reminding everybody (but as good as never addressing the actual content).  

 

They're deemed untruthworthy NOT because of just where they publish, but because the places where your kind of garbage sources publish and the authors involved have documented histories of publishing false, misleading and unreliable content, as with the example above.

 

They're earned the garbage, non-credible ratings they get based on their disreputable content.

 

"AAPS has also published a medical journal since 1996, called the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons (JPandS). This journal is not listed in academic literature databases such as MEDLINE/PubMed due to the publication of information that lacks scientific validity. 

 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/association-of-american-physicians-and-surgeons-aaps/

 

 

Comment: 3-7 trillion lipid nano particles are being injected into you each time. We know that the "science" was wrong and the "vaccine" doesn't stay in the deltoid muscle but has systemic distribution so there's trillions of these particles being distributed throughout the body and around 1 lipid nano particle for around every 10 cells in the human body. Not sure how anyone could be comfortable with this.

9 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

More fact-checking nonsense.

 

Who is fact checking these fact-checkers?

Congratulations are in order!  You've advanced to Grade 3 level in reasoning.  Your new textbook is "Logic for Dummies" by Professor Owl Dunning-Kruger. 

 

https://www.dummies.com/book/body-mind-spirit/philosophy/logic/logic-for-dummies-282362/

 

Mark Zegarelli is probably just another pseudonym for Owl.

7 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

Congratulations are in order! 

You didn't answer the question..who is fact checking the fact check checkers ??  ..answer  they check themself.

19 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

Congratulations are in order!  You've advanced to Grade 3 level in reasoning.  Your new textbook is "Logic for Dummies" by Professor Owl Dunning-Kruger. 

One of the problems in the whole health thing is so-called experts FChs) putting their oar in. I would say they are at least 90% wrong.

 

As much as I don't really get involved in the nitty-gritty of what the mRNA vax does, I do appreciate that the more it is debated the better. The reason for that is that NO vax can help any person for any illness. It is all a nonsense. 

 

Good health is so simple. The white-coats make it not so.

 

Too much to go into here, but basically; if it's anti-nature, it's then certainly anti-science, and that means it's not TRUTH. And vaccines are not truth. They are man-mad, Big Pharms toxic filth.

3 minutes ago, johng said:

You didn't answer the question..who is fact checking the fact check checkers ??  ..answer  they check themself.

go ahead chase your tail... go sit in the corner of a round room.

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9 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

go ahead chase your tail... go sit in the corner of a round room.

That's what you do with your 'fact checking'  I make up my own mind

for myself without the 'fact checkers' 

24 minutes ago, johng said:

That's what you do with your 'fact checking'  I make up my own mind

for myself without the 'fact checkers' 

gotta love those who can make a decision in a field where they know nothing!

If the world wasn't adequately supplied with idiots, the smart ones would have to work a whole lot harder.

16 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

gotta love those who can make a decision in a field where they know nothing!

Perhaps I do a bit or reading in a field and find out that the

'fact checkers' are full of bull crap  propaganda merchants ?  

 

You still didn't answer the question, who fact checks the so called checkers ?..

 

They are self appointed and no more trustworthy than anyone else who cares to comment on any given subject.

14 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

There are tons of data of rising deaths, harms and illnesses after the roll-out of the 'protective' Covid-19 shots.  

Most are buried in Public Health data-bases and obviously there are little to no funds available to research the connection, and so it are only non-funded independent researchers that publish articles/studies on that very real phenomenon.  Such articles/studies also face acceptance difficulties in the main scientific medical journals, as they threaten the narrative of Big Pharma and these journals rely on the advertisements and funding of 'the hand that feeds them'.   And so when they do get published it is on little known media, which are then deemed 'untrustworthy' by (Pharma paid) fact-checkers, as one of the posters on this sub-forum keeps on reminding everybody (but as good as never addressing the actual content).  

 

On this sub-forum there are +200 threads addressing the Great Big Lie known as 'the accepted Covid-19 and Vaccine narrative', and many of them do provide facts and data about the harms of these poison-shots. 

I suggest you browse the threads, as there is a wealth of information available on that specific issue. 

https://aseannow.com/forum/466-covid-other-vaccine-studies/

 

Here already an example of a recently published article published in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons (Fall 2025) titled > COVID-19 Injections: Harms and Damages, a Non-Exhaustive Conclusion

https://jpands.org/vol30no3/zywiec.pdf

It was addressed in this thread > https://aseannow.com/topic/1371374-covid-19-shots-harms-and-damages-a-non-exhaustive-conclusion/ 

 

 

 

Can you give me a two line synopsis ? I have to admit i am too lazy to read through all that. 

10 hours ago, johng said:

Perhaps I do a bit or reading in a field and find out that the

'fact checkers' are full of bull crap  propaganda merchants ?  

 

You still didn't answer the question, who fact checks the so called checkers ?..

 

They are self appointed and no more trustworthy than anyone else who cares to comment on any given subject.

You have no clue who the real fact checkers are, do you?  They're the ones with years of education and experience in their field.... vs you?  LOL

 

You do realize that almost everything you 'know' came from somebody else's work, right?

21 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

On this sub-forum there are +200 threads addressing the Great Big Lie

I do have to hand it to you.... you absolutely have provided a mountain of threads.... sadly all garbage.

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