17 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Hard to run out of money when they had no more than a handful of cases -- out of more than 140 MILLION vaccine doses given here -- where it was found the vaccine actually caused anyone's death.

 

(The early AZ vaccine used here and elsewhere saved a lot of lives, many tens of thousands. But it also did have a very rare but real problem -- which did not occur with the mRNA vaccines -- that led to its removal relatively early in the pandemic.)

 

By March 8 2022 Thailand had paid out 1.509 billion Baht in compensation

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/thailand-paid-45-million-covid-vaccine-injury-claims-us-zero/

By July 2022 that had already climbed to 2 billion and they reduced the possibilty of compensation by downgrading to an endemic status and only considering certain people.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2389325/nhso-halts-jab-compensation

Even the Bangkok Hospital web site admits side effects and dangers of the vaccine.

 

https://www.bangkokhospital.com/en/bangkok-heart/content/thrombosis-side-effects-of-the-covid-19-vaccine-true-or-not

 

As reported globally and domestically, COVID-19 vaccines can produce serious side effects related to blood clots in the body which urges the temporary discontinuation of certain vaccines in some countries. Up to the present, blood clots in the veins associated with vaccines have been reported in different parts of the body, such as the brain, thigh and lower leg.

 

Nevertheless, blood clots associated with COVDI-19 vaccines rarely happen, only 50-60 cases reported among 50-60 million administered doses. 

 

Additionally, undesired stroke-like side effects have been currently reported in Thailand. However, symptoms usually appear to be temporary with mild-to-moderate severity and have less chance to cause long-term disability. 

 

 

22 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

That wins the award for the silliest post on this issue - and the most ignorant.

 

Did you know that Semmelweis, Wegener, Halley, Newton and Einstein (and a lot more people in history) were all rubbished and attacked for their proposals - because they went against the 'official narrative' of the day. Have you been so deluded by your 'schooling' that you think that we all of a sudden know and understand everything. Do you not realise that not anything the Government and Authorities state is true? The truth is quite the opposite in the majority of cases - especially these days with all the vested interests involved - but over time they will change and the truth will out.

 

Newton was eventually accepted over Plato/Socrates/Euclid etc. and was then seen as the correct 'science' for almost 200 years - and that is why the establishment were locked into believing them - and why they later denied Einstein's theories. But over time Newton was proven to be correct, and since then Einstein has been proven to be correct again and again. Einstein's theories will remain the 'correct science' until another set of theories and science changes that - which will be denied and attacked at first of course.  When the Government gets involved in deciding what is correct science and what is not - they inevitably support the status quo - even more so when the status quo has them under their 'influence'.

 

Of note on this subject is that Newton wrote a lot more about Christianity and God than he did about Science. In fact he was severely attacked by the Catholic Churches of Europe for proposing that the Trinity was a corrupted addition to the original Christian Bible - and if he was not living in England he would have been arrested and put on trial.  His theory that the Earth's rotation was not 'perfect', and that many of the other beliefs of the Church were false, made him some very powerful enemies who saw such revelations as weakening their cause and influence. The Church is not as powerful as it once was - they have been replaced under Democracy by the Government Bureaucracies (CDC, FDA, etc) and Mandarins (like Fauci). Just like the Church, they believe that what they think and believe is correct (according to their teachings and scriptures) and that the People must be forced to accept and comply.  Is this ringing any bells?? 

I would have to agree.. Most misinformation or incorrect information given by the government or government agencies to get the masses to cooperate quietly. Then it becomes easy to silence the ones that go against their narrative.  Who can honestly and accurately say that the Covid spread as well as the vaccine demands were not supplied with misinformation or lack of information given by the governments. WE all know how easily and how often the press as well as anyone spouting government  rhetoric can be manipulated to use their access to the public to push the narrative as prescribed by the government. Just look at how TAT and all the other Thai agencies manipulate the stories in the news. This happens worldwide. For all we know, Covid was created by and distributed worldwide to boost the Phancy companies who were faltering at the time. The reports from doctors and independent tests on populations for the vaccine  who went against the government rhetoric were silenced. Social media banned and blocked anything and everything that went against the government rhetoric. There was so much control over the mainstream stories how good the vaccine was and how bad the virus was that it seemed unreal. Who can honestly say they know for sure the vaccine helped stop deaths and has no future related incidents caused by the vaccines forced on everyone. We all know that the vaccine did not prevent anyone catching Covid. So why force it so much into people to have to take it? There are so many questions relating to this. It does not take some conspiracy theorists to get the feeling something was wrong with how the world governments managed the virus as well as silencing those respectable doctors who went against the rhetoric the governments wanted you to see and hear. The link to this fact check in the initial Op only relies on what the government tells them is accurate. So, I will repeat a sentence from above. 

Most misinformation or incorrect information given by the government or government agencies are to get the masses to cooperate quietly. Then it becomes easy to silence the ones that go against their narrative.  Who can honestly and accurately say that the Covid spread as well as the vaccine demands were not supplied with misinformation or lack of information given by the governments. WE all know how easily and how often the press as well as anyone spouting government  rhetoric can be manipulated to use their access to the public to push the narrative as prescribed by the government. Anyone who believes the government is releasing all the facts about anything really needs to see their own head doctor. Governments only tell you what they think or want you to know or think. Truths and lies are blurred or silenced. 

It is not possible to state that governments provide the public with 100% truth and facts at any given time. Numerous factors, including national security concerns, the potential for public panic, and political motivations, lead to governments withholding or selectively releasing information. A truly and completely transparent government is a theoretical ideal, not a consistent reality

13 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Even the Bangkok Hospital web site admits side effects and dangers of the vaccine.

 

https://www.bangkokhospital.com/en/bangkok-heart/content/thrombosis-side-effects-of-the-covid-19-vaccine-true-or-not

 

As reported globally and domestically, COVID-19 vaccines can produce serious side effects related to blood clots in the body which urges the temporary discontinuation of certain vaccines in some countries. Up to the present, blood clots in the veins associated with vaccines have been reported in different parts of the body, such as the brain, thigh and lower leg.

 

Nevertheless, blood clots associated with COVDI-19 vaccines rarely happen, only 50-60 cases reported among 50-60 million administered doses. 

 

Additionally, undesired stroke-like side effects have been currently reported in Thailand. However, symptoms usually appear to be temporary with mild-to-moderate severity and have less chance to cause long-term disability. 

 

 

Yikes, talk about poor choice of language! - interminably = endlessly or for a very long time, often to a tiresome or monotonous degree

Quote

After COVID-19 vaccines have been administered to a large number of populations worldwide, an immense range of adverse reactions after vaccination has been interminably reported with different severity degrees and incidence rates among different countries.

https://www.bangkokhospital.com/en/bangkok-heart/content/thrombosis-side-effects-of-the-covid-19-vaccine-true-or-not

7 hours ago, blaze master said:

 

So what of those officials who told us that the vaccine prevented you from getting or spreading covid ?

 

Which officials said that? Please provide some examples.

6 hours ago, impulse said:

 

For thousands (millions?) of us still living with vaccine injuries, it isn't over.  Not by a long shot.

 

Edit: And if there's no consequences this time, they'll pull the same crap again next time.

 

 

Your self declared mental illness and symptoms from pre-existing chronic illness  are not covid vaccine  adverse reactions.

12 hours ago, cmsally said:

2 opposing opinions - those believing in the vaccine think that those  opposing it are giving out false inormation.

Those who do not believe in the vaccine think that those promoting it are giving out false information.

 

If people are completely honest they will not want to shut the other side down. It is not your job to "protect others". We are all capable of critical thinking and self preservation . We should be looking after ourselves. It is our job to consider each side of the argument and make an informed decision. 

There are  very specific false claims that have been made. The invented "data", the nonsensical "cures". For example, the people pushing the vaccine conspiracies on this website have no knowledge of the human immune system, its mechanisms, its  biochemical activities, the physiology of  human organs, or the endocrine system. None of them  have more than a basic high school education, and it is doubtful they even understood basic  grade school biology. And yet they come with their  idiotic claims and  imagined conspiracies, and people of limited intelligence readily embrace their claims.  The reality, and it is something successful political leaders have long understood is that  most people are not particularly intelligent, and as the world  becomes more complex and technical. They have been left behind. Science and new things scares them. They can't manage, the  changes scare them. Covid was a frightening  event. They were scared and needed a coping mechanism. The simplistic answers provided by the Covid conspiracy cabal met their needs. They were offered an easy solution. Unfortunately, the claims just were not true.

15 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Which officials said that? Please provide some examples.

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DMnHZx-8QGU&pp=ygUZYmlkZW4gdmFjY2luZSBjYW50IHNwcmVhZA%3D%3D

20 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Which officials said that? Please provide some examples.

 

Then my favorite

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ciwyYnwYFaQ&pp=ygUZYmlkZW4gdmFjY2luZSBjYW50IHNwcmVhZA%3D%3D

32 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Which officials said that? Please provide some examples.

 

Also cdc director Rochelle Walensky in May 2021.

 

Lots more but I cant be bothered doing basic internet searches for you.

59 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Which officials said that? Please provide some examples.

 

13 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Misinformation: "Safe and Effective". "Prevents getting and spreading Covid-19". "Virus is zoonotic and didn't come from the Wuhan Lab where gain of function research is carried out".

Where it came from is irrelevant. Stopping it is not.

20 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Is this ringing any bells?? 

 

So you're saying Fauci is like the Pope? 

 

45 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

So you're saying Fauci is like the Pope? 

 

Yep, the Pope believes that he represents God on earth. 

Fauci thinks he IS Science. 

 

2 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Yep, the Pope believes that he represents God on earth. 

Fauci thinks he IS Science. 

 

 

And here Fauci - mr Science - 's track-record...

 

15 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Considering it was a military operation eh Johnny.

 

Planned from 2017. Kary died in August 2019. Big Pharma companies told to get prepared. Event 201. Secret Services given the SP in November. News of the pandemic slowly trickled out until mid March 2020. The US military sent out the message to 'lock down'. Between Mach 20th & 31st. Lockstep lockdowns begin.

 

 

note - no AI or cats were consulted in this post.

 

Fact checked by Rumak !     

13 hours ago, impulse said:

 

For thousands (millions?) of us still living with vaccine injuries, it isn't over.  Not by a long shot.

 

Edit: And if there's no consequences this time, they'll pull the same crap again next time.

 

 

I would recommend listening to /reading Dr. Sarah Myhill - many helpful books and videos such as this one

 

20 minutes ago, cmsally said:

I would recommend listening to /reading Dr. Sarah Myhill - many helpful books and videos such as this one

 

 

 

Ohh, she's a winner for sure!

Private Powys GP year ban for 'inappropriate treatment  

18 October 2010

 

"A GP has been suspended from practising medicine for a year by the General Medical Council (GMC).  Dr Sarah Myhill, 52, who has a private practice near Knighton, Powys had claimed she was a "pioneer" in the treatment of chronic fatigue syndrome.

 

The GMC imposed an interim ban while it investigates her claims, but it said Dr Myhill might pose a "risk to patients".

...

She was banned from prescribing drugs for 18 months by the GMC in April, and told to take down part of her website.

 

Dr Myhill recommended vitamin and magnesium injections for suspected chronic fatigue syndrome, a treatment an expert said had "no clinical or biochemical basis".

 

(more)

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-mid-wales-11550075

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

 

Ohh, she's a winner for sure!

Private Powys GP year ban for 'inappropriate treatment  

18 October 2010

 

"A GP has been suspended from practising medicine for a year by the General Medical Council (GMC).  Dr Sarah Myhill, 52, who has a private practice near Knighton, Powys had claimed she was a "pioneer" in the treatment of chronic fatigue syndrome.

 

The GMC imposed an interim ban while it investigates her claims, but it said Dr Myhill might pose a "risk to patients".

...

She was banned from prescribing drugs for 18 months by the GMC in April, and told to take down part of her website.

 

Dr Myhill recommended vitamin and magnesium injections for suspected chronic fatigue syndrome, a treatment an expert said had "no clinical or biochemical basis".

 

(more)

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-mid-wales-11550075

 

 

 

I would think anything is better than the NHS strategy , which is basically try and treat the symptoms and just live with it.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/chronic-fatigue-syndrome-cfs/treatment/

 

Apparently almost half a million people in the UK have to live with it.

https://www.ed.ac.uk/news/mecfs-cases-in-england-higher-than-first-projected#:~:text=Almost two-thirds more people,depending on ethnicity and location.

6 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

No. Those are statements attributed to them and taken out of context. Surely you can come up with the actual recordings of where they said the statements. You people spend enough time watching, so now show me where they said these things. Surely you can offer an unedited video?

7 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

No. Those are statements attributed to them and taken out of context. Surely you can come up with the actual recordings of where they said the statements. You people spend enough time watching, so now show me where they said these things. Surely you can offer an unedited video?

 

The posters of that kind of stuff are big on internet memes...because they don't have much else.

 

 

7 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Where it came from is irrelevant. Stopping it is not.

Irrelevant? This is insane. Of course it's relevant. It was man made using gain of function. How can this be irrelevant?

5 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Irrelevant? This is insane. Of course it's relevant. It was man made using gain of function. How can this be irrelevant?

So what would you like to do about it? I got vaccinated, because that is what is needed to fight the disease. Pissing and moaning over Q-anut conspiracies does not solve anything.

30 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

No. Those are statements attributed to them and taken out of context. Surely you can come up with the actual recordings of where they said the statements. You people spend enough time watching, so now show me where they said these things. Surely you can offer an unedited video?

 

7 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

You can post that photo a million times and the same people will still claim nobody said such a thing.

23 minutes ago, cmsally said:

 

 

Your edited snippet is taken out of context, and you do not understand what she said. 

Dr. Walensky was asked a question about the preliminary clinical trial data. Did you miss the part where she said the data  SUGGESTED.   She did not say proved or established.  And she was indeed  accurate.   Her statement was based on  study the CDC of newly vaccinated people in the U.S. over 13 weeks to monitor the efficacy of the vaccines in daily life.  4,000 heath care workers, police, firefighters and other essential workers who received one of the two mRNA vaccines between Dec. 14 and March 13 and were tested weekly for COVID-19. The testing showed that the risk of infection went down by 90% two weeks or more after they received their second dose, and even just one dose was 80% effective after two weeks. Of the 2,479 people in the study who were fully vaccinated, just three contracted COVID-19, which is in line with the vaccine's efficacy. In comparison, the CDC also tracked 994 people who were not vaccinated, and 161 contracted COVID-19. This data most certainly does support the use of the expression suggested.

 

Because people were taking the term SUGGESTED out of context and attaching a different meaning to her statement,  the CDC clarified the intent 2 days later. The CDC emphasized that the data was still under review and that study was ongoing.  It is a sad indictment of the ignorance of a large number of US citizens that they do not understand what the term suggestion means.

 

Thank you for proving my point.

3 minutes ago, Airalee said:

You can post that photo a million times and the same people will still claim nobody said such a thing.

 

Then please show me where it was said and its context.  One person has already attempted to present a statement out of context.

All the sudden the left cares about context 

5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

All the sudden the left cares about context 

 

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2 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

The left, the left, the left, the left...

 

You must have a speed posting string for your favorite phrase on your computer!

 

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