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Japanese Tourist Injured in Pattaya Roadside Assault

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  • blaze master
    blaze master

    Bullocks.   Not doing your job is a big factor in said recurring safety issues. 

  • Point Arguello
    Point Arguello

    Of course Mr Thai apologist it must be the Japanese man at fault. Could not be another local lowlife 

  • I spend my time on AN FORUMS at 04.30am   Now that's is sad

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Pattaya again. It does not take much to have a problem with a Thai. I doubt the Japanese did anything wrong, they are so polite.

16 hours ago, blaze master said:

 

Bullocks.

 

Not doing your job is a big factor in said recurring safety issues. 

 

Get real. The  japanese man was punched and the assailant ran away. What do you expect the police to have done? We don't know what transpired with Mr. Honda prior to the incident.  Even if the police are on every street corner, there is nothing that they can do if the  "victim" does not complain. Often, when the victim is quiet like this it is because they were up to something that  is embarrassing or illegal. 

35 minutes ago, Geoff914 said:

And the Japanese of course are known for their impolite behaviour, their lack of respect and violent tendencies. My money is on the Thai being at fault.

 

A verbal altercation was reported - (speculation)  it seems the Japanese man might have parked where he was not welcome and the local went from 'entitlement to violence' in seconds - the Japanese man might have accelerated this by arguing back. 

 

As Xonax mentioned,  some Thai's in some area's have their 'reserved spots' - many of us have experienced this in some area's where locals are more jaded... and those we encounter might not be the most amenable of characters - they are the local thugs, motorcycle taxi's etc...  and avoiding issues means knowing the local rules....  or at least being able to adapt without any reaction when faced with potential conflict.

 

Some folk here are just looking for that chance to 'kick off' - particularly in the earlier hours.

 

Again - there's no excuse for violence - the police should really be following this up.

 

 

11 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Get real. The  japanese man was punched and the assailant ran away. What do you expect the police to have done? We don't know what transpired with Mr. Honda prior to the incident.  Even if the police are on every street corner, there is nothing that they can do if the  "victim" does not complain. Often, when the victim is quiet like this it is because they were up to something that  is embarrassing or illegal. 

 

Your reply has nothing to do with my comment. 

7 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Get real. The  japanese man was punched and the assailant ran away. What do you expect the police to have done? We don't know what transpired with Mr. Honda prior to the incident.  Even if the police are on every street corner, there is nothing that they can do if the  "victim" does not complain. Often, when the victim is quiet like this it is because they were up to something that  is embarrassing or illegal. 

 

The Police 'can do something' - the idea that they can't is flawed - whats stopping them from investigating this ???

CCTV is everywhere now - maybe they checked already, but the article does not indicate that. 

Additionally, if this was an 'argument' over a parking space, its quite likely the local lad is known in the area.

 

The implication from the article is that 'because the Japanese man didn't make an official complaint' that the police have their hands tied as they are not permitted to investigate unless a complain is made - thats rubbish and its lazy.

 

 

That said: at 4:30am - I'd agree that its likely the Japanese man was up to something embarrassing or illegal - perhaps trying to drink drive etc...   But thats irrelevant in an assault case...  The police can still investigate IF they wanted to - they don't need the 'official complaint' of a foreigner to investigate assault... 

 

 

7 hours ago, cynic1 said:

Why do people "assume" or "suspect".  It infers there is a lack of facts in this story yet they auto. conclude the Japanese man is guilty. I surely would not want them in a jury if I was trying to legally defend myself.

 

Why climb mountains when you can relax at home? why hunt when you can buy meat in the store? 

7 hours ago, cynic1 said:

Why do people "assume" or "suspect".  It infers there is a lack of facts in this story yet they auto. conclude the Japanese man is guilty. I surely would not want them in a jury if I was trying to legally defend myself.

 

Its part of the forum...  If speculation were not anticipated and discussion was not wanted or warranted, then this would be a 'news item' without an option to discuss...   OR, if you prefer not to see assumptions, suspicions - speculation, then why are not you reading a dedicated news site ?

 

If think its fair enough to make speculation based on reasonable grounds.

 

Some people are suggesting the Japanese man 'triggered' the Thai to react violently - maybe so.

Others are suggesting a simple discussion which escalated very quickly to violence.

 

Regardless - the discussion, speculation, assumptions and suspicions are 'mostly' valid as many people have experience of being here and can identify how such situations can evolve so rapidly, particularly in area's better known for its concentration of jaded Thai's when it comes to interactions with foreigners. 

 

 

 

 

 

14 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Your comment tells me a lot about your character.

 

Over the decades living in Thailand I have never, ever been assaulted by a Thai, foreigner, yes, NEVER a Thai. 

 

I find if you keep under the radar, be polite and respectful you will never get assaulted by a Thai person. 

 

I will second that. 20 years in Thailand and never once had trouble with  a Thai....when it wasnt my own fault. Guaranteed it was the drunk Jap started that.

54 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

The Police 'can do something' - the idea that they can't is flawed - whats stopping them from investigating this ???

CCTV is everywhere now - maybe they checked already, but the article does not indicate that. 

Additionally, if this was an 'argument' over a parking space, its quite likely the local lad is known in the area.

 

The implication from the article is that 'because the Japanese man didn't make an official complaint' that the police have their hands tied as they are not permitted to investigate unless a complain is made - thats rubbish and its lazy.

 

 

That said: at 4:30am - I'd agree that its likely the Japanese man was up to something embarrassing or illegal - perhaps trying to drink drive etc...   But thats irrelevant in an assault case...  The police can still investigate IF they wanted to - they don't need the 'official complaint' of a foreigner to investigate assault... 

 

 

 

What's the point of investigating when the victim refuses to so-operate? it is a waste of resources.You want the police to  track down  the assailant. Fine. And then what?   In order to obtain search warrants and to question people, a crime must be alleged, and to date, no one has complained. The police cannot arrest the assailant, nor can they hold him for questioning.

1 hour ago, Usnh said:

I will second that. 20 years in Thailand and never once had trouble with  a Thai....when it wasnt my own fault. Guaranteed it was the drunk Jap started that.

And I got threatened with a gun by my FIL, who happened to be Thai 

1 hour ago, Patong2021 said:

 

What's the point of investigating when the victim refuses to so-operate? it is a waste of resources.You want the police to  track down  the assailant. Fine. And then what?   In order to obtain search warrants and to question people, a crime must be alleged, and to date, no one has complained. The police cannot arrest the assailant, nor can they hold him for questioning.

 

There were witnesses and first responders and maybe CCTV - sufficient evident of a criminal act (assault) perhaps. 

 

The police do not require a search warrant merely to question someone, nor do they need one to request CCTV footage from local businesses.

 

I understand your point about a crime needing to be alleged and that no formal complaint has been made. However, that’s conflating civil and criminal law. In a criminal matter such as assault, the state itself is the complainant once there is evidence of wrongdoing.

 

The existence of a news report covering the attack suggests that the incident has already reached a level of public significance - surely enough to warrant at least preliminary investigation by the police.

 

 

The police can detain the attacker for questioning if there are witnesses - which there are - and they can obtain CCTV footage, as most urban areas in Thailand have extensive camera coverage across shopfronts and business premises.

 

So what’s the point of pressing this issue? It’s simple: protection - there's some unhinged person who will attack over what appears to be nothing, next time his attack could be worse.... thats why (IMO).

2 hours ago, Usnh said:

I will second that. 20 years in Thailand and never once had trouble with  a Thai....when it wasnt my own fault. Guaranteed it was the drunk Jap started that.

 

Was he drunk ???   Maybe he got up at that time to go to the Gym (just like SAFETY FIRST does) .... 

 

But realistically - at 4:30am... I don't think it would be a shock to learn he was drunk.... or that words were exchanged over where he'd parked his bike, or some other reason... none of which justifies an attack.

 

 

Pro tip re local males: Do not look, Do not speak, And ignore any verbal from them. And maintain max distance.

14 hours ago, Suetape said:

And on the other side of the world I am up at 4am sitting pool side with my coffee also.  At 5:30 a three mile walk and then to gym.  I’ll keep the same schedule when I get back to BKK the end of the month.  

Doesn't get light that early in most countries, are you in Sweden?

9 hours ago, Usnh said:

I will second that. 20 years in Thailand and never once had trouble with  a Thai....when it wasnt my own fault. Guaranteed it was the drunk Jap started that.

I have certainly come close a few times. Not my fault, not drunk. Just arrogant Thais. I just walk away from it and leave them to it. But I find it laughable that it always the farang that starts it.

38 minutes ago, Geoff914 said:

I have certainly come close a few times. Not my fault, not drunk. Just arrogant Thais. I just walk away from it and leave them to it. But I find it laughable that it always the farang that starts it.

Yes I can agree to that, although I would appropriate a little blame to myself though. Perhaps undue grumpiness and a bad mood. They can do things that are intolerably self focused or stupid sometimes. 

15 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

Why climb mountains when you can relax at home? why hunt when you can buy meat in the store? 

Why make a statement that has nothing to do with my comment?

15 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Its part of the forum...  If speculation were not anticipated and discussion was not wanted or warranted, then this would be a 'news item' without an option to discuss...   OR, if you prefer not to see assumptions, suspicions - speculation, then why are not you reading a dedicated news site ?

 

If think its fair enough to make speculation based on reasonable grounds.

 

Some people are suggesting the Japanese man 'triggered' the Thai to react violently - maybe so.

Others are suggesting a simple discussion which escalated very quickly to violence.

 

Regardless - the discussion, speculation, assumptions and suspicions are 'mostly' valid as many people have experience of being here and can identify how such situations can evolve so rapidly, particularly in area's better known for its concentration of jaded Thai's when it comes to interactions with foreigners. 

 

That's a fair comment. I hope I'm in the jury when you are charged based on assumptions and hearsay. Guilty as charged your honour.😂

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, cynic1 said:

That's a fair comment. I hope I'm in the jury when you are charged based on assumptions and hearsay. Guilty as charged your honour.😂

 

Speculation and discussion by laymen on a web-forum does not require a burden of proof - and note that I wrote 'discussion based on reasonable grounds'....  

 

So.. you're kind of missing the whole point of a forum designed specifically for such discussions if you only want to be reading the news without commentary from others.

On 10/6/2025 at 6:00 AM, SAFETY FIRST said:

I'm up at 4am, coffee, cereal, AN, then off to the gym 5.30am.

 

There's a few of us sad people here. 😔

We’d stumble outta the pubs ‘round 4 in the bloody mornin’ Then straight on the road for more drinkin’ and carryin’ on like mad bastards. Ah, those were the days , took a hell of a lotta self discipline to keep that chaos goin’, proper hard graft, that was 😁

41 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Speculation and discussion by laymen on a web-forum does not require a burden of proof - and note that I wrote 'discussion based on reasonable grounds'....  

 

So.. you're kind of missing the whole point of a forum designed specifically for such discussions if you only want to be reading the news without commentary from others.

I replied "that's a fair comment" you made. So grow up and stop trying to make it a federal offence.

19 minutes ago, cynic1 said:

I replied "that's a fair comment" you made. So grow up and stop trying to make it a federal offence.

 

And then you responded "I hope I'm in the jury when you are charged based on assumptions and hearsay. Guilty as charged your honour.😂"....

 

What are you going to do now?...  claim: "I rest my case"  as if you are some wanna-be-lawyer ??...  "Guilty as Charged"... 

... how about ending your comment with the words "full stop" or "Period"  as if that ends all discussion !!! 

 

You hope "you are in the jury when I'm charged" >> dumb hypothetical...   yeah - grow up indeed ye daft keyboard melt... 

 

You've been called out for a dumb comment suggesting people shouldn't speculate on a forum designed for discussion - well done for showcasing stupidity.... 

2 hours ago, cynic1 said:

Why make a statement that has nothing to do with my comment?

 

it was a joke. Think about it a little. It's slightly amusing. 🙂

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