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Non-O Marriage Annual Extension - Balance Below 400k for 3 Days

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Hi all,

As per the subject, my balance dipped 400k for 3 days during my 2 month proof balance proof cycle - 398,189k then back to roughly 500k~ 3 days later. No excuses just an oversight on my part.

I've never used an agent and would prefer not to, I prefer to do things legitimately wherever possible. Jomtien immigration is my office is that is of any concern.


Options?

 

60 Day Extension

I've had a chain of 6 successful annual extensions on my current visa since 2019, but i've never once used the 60-day extension... Can this be used to provide time the time needed for the balance?

 

More than 2 months of statements?

I don't pump and dump the account, so i could show 6 months of statements showing 400k+ for the whole time apart from this 1 incident?

 

Many thanks in advance for any input!
 

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They aren't going to care how many years you can show a balance above 400k or if the balance was higher. 

 

The seasoning requirements are clear you need the 400k in a Thai bank account in your name only for 2 months before you apply for the extension. 

 

Clearly you are not able to show that. 

 

I would say go for the 60 day visit Thai family extension. That will buy you the time you need to season your funds.

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Try to get a morning appointment and take a box of Dunkin Donuts with you to your next annual extension.. :coffee1:

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25 minutes ago, Tod Daniels said:

They aren't going to care how many years you can show a balance above 400k or if the balance was higher. 

 

The seasoning requirements are clear you need the 400k in a Thai bank account in your name only for 2 months before you apply for the extension. 

 

Clearly you are not able to show that. 

 

I would say go for the 60 day visit Thai family extension. That will buy you the time you need to season your funds.


Thanks for the reply Tod.

That's what I thought re them not caring about the balance.

On the 60 day extesnion. I tried searching the forum through the search function and Google, but I couldn't find any posts that specifically confirmed if it is possible to get it when you are already on an annual extension? Do you have any knowledge regarding this, or can you point me to any recent threads where it is discussed?

Thanks again.

2 hours ago, Stifen said:

Do you have any knowledge regarding this,

Should be no problem with you getting the 60 day visit Thai family extension, believe me you're far from the first foreigner who ran themselves off the rail by failing to season their funds correctly. 😉 

 

You can get it once per visa/extension, meaning if you've ever gotten it since you started this daisy chain of extensions you cannot get it again. 

 

But you say since you got on the non-o Visa and been on yearly extensions you've never used it, so you should be good. 

Imo they might care.. even if it was 399.999. I would get an agent to sort this

10 minutes ago, bkkniko said:

Imo they might care.. even if it was 399.999. I would get an agent to sort this

Agree with Tod, a 60-day extension should not be a problem.

 

Good idea to deposit the 400K in a separate account to avoid such accidents.

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remember it's NOT a 60 day marriage extension, you ask for that and they're going to say there is none only the year 

It's specifically written as "visit thai family" and just so happens your 'thai family' is your thai wife 😛 


This is the clause in the police order that allows it 
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On 10/6/2025 at 1:21 PM, BKKKevin said:

Try to get a morning appointment and take a box of Dunkin Donuts with you to your next annual extension.. :coffee1:

Yes, then you have a good chance, which also counts, they are not very good at mental arithmetic, so you have twice the chance of getting through it successfully.

On 10/6/2025 at 1:24 PM, Stifen said:

On the 60 day extesnion. I tried searching the forum through the search function and Google, but I couldn't find any posts that specifically confirmed if it is possible to get it when you are already on an annual extension?

It is. 

Just two days back I also tried to obtain a 12 month extension (retirement).

Exactly as per your error, I dipped 2k below the 800k.

Despite the balance being usually over one million there was No Way immigration was going to approve it. 

 

I caught a fortunate break with the head io, so I was just plain lucky (for once) and they let it side. 

That is not usual. 

 

Obtain the 60 day extension to visit Thai family. 

On 10/6/2025 at 1:04 PM, Stifen said:

Hi all,

As per the subject, my balance dipped 400k for 3 days during my 2 month proof balance proof cycle - 398,189k then back to roughly 500k~ 3 days later. No excuses just an oversight on my part.

I've never used an agent and would prefer not to, I prefer to do things legitimately wherever possible. Jomtien immigration is my office is that is of any concern.


Options?

 

60 Day Extension

I've had a chain of 6 successful annual extensions on my current visa since 2019, but i've never once used the 60-day extension... Can this be used to provide time the time needed for the balance?

 

More than 2 months of statements?

I don't pump and dump the account, so i could show 6 months of statements showing 400k+ for the whole time apart from this 1 incident?

 

Many thanks in advance for any input!
 

 

i use an agent as i wouldn't want to do anything relating to immigration myself - far too old for all that malarkey ..

I truly believe that almost every immigration office wants expats to use agents.

 

if you don’t pay extra, they’re not getting anything extra for their work.

 

 

On 10/6/2025 at 1:13 PM, Tod Daniels said:

The seasoning requirements are clear you need the 400k in a Thai bank account in your name only for 2 months before you apply for the extension. 

I don't understand this.

 

I'm on a Non 0 retirement extension and at my last yearly extension Imm Kalasin said I can get my bank statement 2 to 3 months before and to do my extensions 2 months before so how do they know you don't touch your funds after that?

 

Just thought about it and the trouble would be in the next extension.

aDon't forget also 2 bank letters certified your bank account, new rules from Bangkok bank not immigration the 400009 need to be 4 months on the account to receive a letter, this is a new rules from this bank, I don't know if Kasikorn or other banks make this rule 

2 minutes ago, vivananahuahin said:

Don't forget also 2 bank letters certified your bank account,

1 letter, then copy it, cheaper.

 

3 minutes ago, vivananahuahin said:

new rules from Bangkok bank not immigration the 400009 need to be 4 months on the account to receive a letter

Incorrect.
They will issue the letter provided you sign an affidavit to freeze the account for 4 months.

1 hour ago, carlyai said:

I'm on a Non 0 retirement extension and at my last yearly extension Imm Kalasin said I can get my bank statement 2 to 3 months before and to do my extensions 2 months before so how do they know you don't touch your funds after that?

Don't follow. 

You can apply for extension up to 30 days prior to expiry. 

45 days at some offices. 

Financials are checked retrospectively so any non compliance would mean extension not granted. 

1 hour ago, carlyai said:

I don't understand this.

 

I'm on a Non 0 retirement extension and at my last yearly extension Imm Kalasin said I can get my bank statement 2 to 3 months before and to do my extensions 2 months before so how do they know you don't touch your funds after that?

 

Just thought about it and the trouble would be in the next extension.

Immigration rules state bank account over 400k for two months before application.

Bank statement to be within 7 days of application.

 

That's it, you can spend all the money the day after application for extension (unless you're with Bangkok bank that freeze 400k for 4 months on issue of the immigration letter). They haven't checked my bank balance after application ever, since 2009.

You and only you let it slip under 400k. You will have to start over with a 90 day family visa out of country and then apply/extend to a marriage visa. That will involve neighbour interviews and a medicate certificate.

 

A gross and negligent error on someone's part.

 

Make a 3 into a 4? 

20 hours ago, cardinalblue said:

You and only you let it slip under 400k. You will have to start over with a 90 day family visa out of country and then apply/extend to a marriage visa. That will involve neighbour interviews and a medicate certificate

Very unhelpful post. 

Read the thread. The OP has already been given sound advice how to buy time by obtaining 60 day extension to visit family. 

Apart from that he would have option of obtaining a Non O from outside of Thailand (eVisa) OR border bounce obtain visa exempt stampt and subsequently obtain the Non O at his local immigration office. 

Then of course 12 month extension. 

You mention medical certificate. 

Which office? 

14 minutes ago, cardinalblue said:

You and only you let it slip under 400k. You will have to start over with a 90 day family visa out of country and then apply/extend to a marriage visa. That will involve neighbour interviews and a medicate certificate.

 

A gross and negligent error on someone's part.

 

Make a 3 into a 4? 

60 day extension to visit your Thai family is easier!

38 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Immigration rules state bank account over 400k for two months before application.

Bank statement to be within 7 days of application.

 

That's it, you can spend all the money the day after application for extension (unless you're with Bangkok bank that freeze 400k for 4 months on issue of the immigration letter). They haven't checked my bank balance after application ever, since 2009.

Well that's not what Kalasin Imm told me recently.

They said bank letter and extension up to 2 months before due date. They said more than 2 months OK.

I specifically asked about the bank statement and they said a few months before extension due OK.

 

It really doesn't matter when you get the bank statement, 1 day or 60 days before due as they would pick it up next extension if you didn't have the money in for those 2 months.

Anyway 2 to 3 months before is what Kalasin said.

13 minutes ago, carlyai said:

Well that's not what Kalasin Imm told me recently.

They said bank letter and extension up to 2 months before due date. They said more than 2 months OK.

I specifically asked about the bank statement and they said a few months before extension due OK.

 

It really doesn't matter when you get the bank statement, 1 day or 60 days before due as they would pick it up next extension if you didn't have the money in for those 2 months.

Anyway 2 to 3 months before is what Kalasin said.

They only require a 2 month bank statement, I give them 6 months.

How would they see what happened between application and next years 6 month statement?

I don't use my bank book except for the yearly update they require, so no info for them there either.

 

More likely your Immigration officer doesn't speak English well enough so the translation and information you're given is incorrect. Thais generally have problems with past, present & future tenses.

2 hours ago, carlyai said:

I don't understand this.

 

I'm on a Non 0 retirement extension and at my last yearly extension Imm Kalasin said I can get my bank statement 2 to 3 months before and to do my extensions 2 months before so how do they know you don't touch your funds after that?

The financial requirements for an extension based on retirement and Thai spouse are totally different.

This topic is specifically about extensions based on Thai spouse.

 

56 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Immigration rules state bank account over 400k for two months before application.

carlyai stated he is on an extension based on retirement.

On 10/6/2025 at 1:24 PM, Stifen said:


Thanks for the reply Tod.

That's what I thought re them not caring about the balance.

On the 60 day extension. I tried searching the forum through the search function and Google, but I couldn't find any posts that specifically confirmed if it is possible to get it when you are already on an annual extension? Do you have any knowledge regarding this, or can you point me to any recent threads where it is discussed?

Thanks again.

as long as you have not obtained a  60 day extension since the last time you entered Thailand excluding  re-entry permit entries,

when does the extension expire and when was the 400,0000 showing back in the bank

21 hours ago, carlyai said:

to do my extensions 2 months before

 

So does this mean that you can apply for new extensions (for retirement or marriage, whatever) at Kalasin IO up to 60 days before your current permission to stay expires? This would be double the 30-day max allowed by most other IO's!

 

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Thanks for all (well most!) of replies/input.

 

Slight change of plan. After some consideration (passport expiring anyway, family birthdays, the under consideration period being at an inconvenient time each year anyhows), we're going to go on a couple of holidays so I'll re-enter on x2 60 day visa exempt entries then head home in February.

 

When back in the UK/London i'll use my BKK BK balance to re-apply for a new NON-O visa in March 2026 time ~~

 

Thanks again all, hopefully the thread will help others too ^^

On 10/6/2025 at 1:04 PM, Stifen said:

I don't pump and dump the account, so i could show 6 months of statements showing 400k+ for the whole time apart from this 1 incident?

This sort of logical, reasonable, and assumption of good-intent will lead to suffering, when dealing with Thai immigration - a racket which has taken control of a govt-agency.  Their decision has nothing to do with if you "really have the money" to support yourself and your wife. 

 

The head IO could override the "money seasoning" requirements, and does this dozens of times / day for agent-money'd retirement extensions.  But, your marriage-based extension must be signed-off by the district office, whose cost per-signature has become very expensive.  Most agents will be unable and/or unwilling to help.

 

On 10/10/2025 at 11:42 AM, bolt said:

if you don’t pay extra, they’re not getting anything extra for their work.

Exactly - but he'd need to change to a retirement-based extension to use an agent - or, pay 100K+ to the rare agent who has the district-office connection, and will do a marriage-based extension.

 

On 10/6/2025 at 1:04 PM, Stifen said:

i've never once used the 60-day extension

This is the way - lucky you still have that available. 

 

On 10/15/2025 at 10:38 AM, Stifen said:

I'll re-enter on x2 60 day visa exempt entries

In that case - the first of these is probably not an issue, but best to either stay out of the country a couple months between the 1st and 2nd entries, or pay for "Safe Entry" on your 2nd return (assume you plan to fly back). 

 

Immigration will see you are a "long stay" foreigner, and may accuse you of "not being a real tourist"**, then deny you entry.  But, if they get their "Safe Entry" payoff, then they don't care - can do visa-exempt in-perpetuity. 

 

(** This is illegal reason to deny-entry, but they do it anyway, to coerce "Safe Entry" payoffs.)

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