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What is 'good health'? Why do we get sick?

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On 10/15/2025 at 12:14 PM, transam said:

In my country, at a time when the water was not good, we developed beer, a gallon a day did the trick...

Though after becoming a First World country, via our efforts, the beer is now for pleasure.

 

You still haven't given me a comprehensive answer to hereditary illnesses, you know, in the genes, like cancer, etc....😏

Many species of animals have eaten the same food since they were created, but some die of cancer, perhaps you can enlighten us on that too. 🤗

Cancer starts when the body cannot rid itself of toxic elements.

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    What I think?  The truth is the truth, no-matter what I think.   Vaccines have nothing what-so-ever to do with preventing sickness, and will not keep one healthy.   Can't poison th

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    Thanks for that Sir.   I'll not be intrusive into your lifestyle and medical history, but let me say this.   The body forms the tumor itself. Quite deliberately. It does the deed f

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    TBH, I've never heard of the guy.   As for the immune system; I think the term has been hi-jacked by the immunologists and virologists. Our whole body is a defense and maintenance system. Wo

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On 10/17/2025 at 6:07 PM, Stiddle Mump said:

Cancer starts when the body cannot rid itself of toxic elements.

Nothing possibly  hereditary involved then..........?    🤔

 

Lastly, do you belong to a minority odd-ball religious sect......?  😒

The ultimate purpose of that thing called "Life" we all worship is the maximization of suffering. The purpose of human culture is to obscure this reality.

 

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3 hours ago, transam said:

Nothing possibly  hereditary involved then..........?    🤔

 

Lastly, do you belong to a minority odd-ball religious sect......?  😒

Nothing to do with hereditary for me.

 

I did belong to the Harlesden Church Community Choir for a while. The HCCC.

11 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Nothing to do with hereditary for me.

 

I did belong to the Harlesden Church Community Choir for a while. The HCCC.

 

You were in a choir?

 

You ain't preachin' to the choir here on AN. 

 

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44 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

You were in a choir?

 

You ain't preachin' to the choir here on AN. 

 

Indeed I was Sir.

 

That was about 30 years ago. Moved on since those days.

 

Now, only sing the praises of nature. 

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13 minutes ago, transam said:

How surprising, if you lost your agenda, you would head for the nearest balcony.......😯

But, I do feel a bit sorry for you, nobody could be as stupid as you............🥴

Thanks for that Trans Buddy.

 

You might think I'm stupid; I'm OK with that. I'm into truth. If that ruffles feathers then that's just great. Modern medicine is a way to keep the populous controlled. It's not the only way of course. But because the west's health narrative revolves around mysterious entities, waiting to pounce at every opportunity, then nature is the only feasible way to proceed. Nature is truth. The most healthy people in the world are not those that have taken dozens of vaxxes, they are the ones that are at peace with nature. Check out the other thread focusing on those that usually live 100+ years. And of course, in this Big Pharma world, a healthy person is not an earner for anyone in the rotten system.

 

Bought 10 ducks this morning. Will let them go at the farm later. I not only talk love for nature; I try when ever possible to walk it. You don't have to be sorry for me Trans; but thanks.

 

A look into the history of medicine will show that as of now (2025) we are as unhealthy as we have ever been. 

 

Good health is when we are in unity with ourselves. Nature has the answers we seek.

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15 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

A look into the history of medicine will show that as of now (2025) we are as unhealthy as we have ever been. 

 

But doctors / medicine keeps unhealthy people alive longer than they should. Without these medicines, life expectancy would be much lower. Not because human beings can't live until 80 on their own, but you need a proper diet and lifestyle, which people don't have. So the medicines/doctors kick in. 

 

You don't seem to give any credit at all the medical establishment. This is nonsense. Being on meds is not ideal, but they do extend people's lives. 

 

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54 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

But doctors / medicine keeps unhealthy people alive longer than they should. Without these medicines, life expectancy would be much lower. Not because human beings can't live until 80 on their own, but you need a proper diet and lifestyle, which people don't have. So the medicines/doctors kick in. 

 

You don't seem to give any credit at all the medical establishment. This is nonsense. Being on meds is not ideal, but they do extend people's lives. 

 

 

I hear you Sir. I don't agree about meds. We can mostly do without them.

 

See the other topic, about people living well into their 100+ without any meds. And both ladies and guys sexually active at 120.

 

This medicine nonsense is more than that; IMO. It's a scam. A well person  is not a Big Pharma customer. 

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1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

You don't seem to give any credit at all the medical establishment. This is nonsense. Being on meds is not ideal, but they do extend people's lives. 

There must be many ethical white-coats out there.

 

Not saying they are all dupsters. But the 'covid pandemic' showed quite clearly that for many, the size of their bank balance was more important than looking after people's health. Especially; babes, toddlers, kids and preggers women.

2 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

 

I hear you Sir. I don't agree about meds. We can mostly do without them.

 

See the other topic, about people living well into their 100+ without any meds. And both ladies and guys sexually active at 120.

 

This medicine nonsense is more than that; IMO. It's a scam. A well person  is not a Big Pharma customer. 

I think that your stance on meds is rather too dismissive. 

And so ¨we can MOSTLY "do without them is quite contradictory.

You have stated that ¨ immune systems" do not exist  but  "symptoms"are evidence of the body healing itself !

You have declared that you have peered through a microscope _electron microscope no less, but declare pathogens do not exist!

How do you explain the presence of ancient afflictions such as syphilis and leprosy in newborn children ?

Have they habitually failed  pre-birth to maintain perfect healthy lifestyles or do you accord the blame for their  misery on the mothers? Infant cancer tumours similarly?

Rabidly lethal disease such as rabies or Hanta virus which without extreme effort to provide medical support highly damaged survival  rates once systemic infection is onset is merely a failure of a healthy host?

The rabies  vaccine has saved countless people from grotesque  agony and needless death.

Referring to the anomalies of rare examples of extreme old age is churlish.

That is no more valid than declaring vegans are healthier than those who eat animal products but statistics show no difference overall in achieved length of life. Saddest aspect of that is to not experience the bliss of eating well made smoked  bacon ! 

If you are willing to forego the advantages provided by modern medication then go ahead. 

But please do not inflict your opinion as indisputable fact .

I will concede that there are many "meds"that although extending the lives  of people who have neglected prudent self care or are even victims of inherited congenital problems it is those same meds that often eventuate in lethal accumulative side effects such as  kidney failure. But it need be recognized that those meds have extended lives well beyond expectation without. Is that wrong?

 

 

 

 

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35 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

I think that your stance on meds is rather too dismissive. 

And so ¨we can MOSTLY "do without them is quite contradictory.

You have stated that ¨ immune systems" do not exist  but  "symptoms"are evidence of the body healing itself !

You have declared that you have peered through a microscope _electron microscope no less, but declare pathogens do not exist!

How do you explain the presence of ancient afflictions such as syphilis and leprosy in newborn children ?

Have they habitually failed  pre-birth to maintain perfect healthy lifestyles or do you accord the blame for their  misery on the mothers? Infant cancer tumours similarly?

Rabidly lethal disease such as rabies or Hanta virus which without extreme effort to provide medical support highly damaged survival  rates once systemic infection is onset is merely a failure of a healthy host?

The rabies  vaccine has saved countless people from grotesque  agony and needless death.

Referring to the anomalies of rare examples of extreme old age is churlish.

That is no more valid than declaring vegans are healthier than those who eat animal products but statistics show no difference overall in achieved length of life. Saddest aspect of that is to not experience the bliss of eating well made smoked  bacon ! 

If you are willing to forego the advantages provided by modern medication then go ahead. 

But please do not inflict your opinion as indisputable fact .

I will concede that there are many "meds"that although extending the lives  of people who have neglected prudent self care or are even victims of inherited congenital problems it is those same meds that often eventuate in lethal accumulative side effects such as  kidney failure. But it need be recognized that those meds have extended lives well beyond expectation without. Is that wrong?

Only the body can heal itself.

 

As I have stated many times, if you have a fracture of yer leg or an arrow in yer back; get to the A & E.

 

Nature shows us that there is usually a balance to most things. Humans are no different. If the vibrational energy goes out of sync, or aspects of our bio-chemistry within, are not working well, we get to know about it. How? The body will try to right itself. Some of the ways it does this are commonly called an illness, a sickness or even a disease. But they, essentially, are the tell-tale signs that the body is functioning as it should.

 

We get a fever. We get a cough. We get the runs. These are not illnesses in themselves. They are the symptoms of the body curing itself. Getting itself back into balance.

 

One has to read one's body. It will tell you when you are not getting enough Vit C, or Selenium, or Magnesium. Understanding yer own body is a good way to stay healthy. And simply popping pills is not the way to true health. Can't poison the body to good health.

 

 

 

11 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Only the body can heal itself.

 

No, this is nonsense. 

 

I had a surgery recently and I took the prescribed anti-biotics. The last thing you want to be doing is messing with an exposed wound and wishing the body can fight it off as this could have caused serious complications. 

 

Sometimes the body is in a weakened state. You never know when a virus or illness will start getting the upper hand and some intervention is necessary.

 

But it seems like you have made up your mind and you will keep repeating the same mantra and no one can convince you otherwise. So I will have to start ignoring your posts soon.

 

 

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51 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

No, this is nonsense. 

 

I had a surgery recently and I took the prescribed anti-biotics. The last thing you want to be doing is messing with an exposed wound and wishing the body can fight it off as this could have caused serious complications. 

 

Sometimes the body is in a weakened state. You never know when a virus or illness will start getting the upper hand and some intervention is necessary.

 

But it seems like you have made up your mind and you will keep repeating the same mantra and no one can convince you otherwise. So I will have to start ignoring your posts soon.

I don't disagree with some of your post Sir. If the wound is wide, pull it sides together to stop blood flow and give a smaller area for the body to get to work.

 

Only the body can heal. A virus cannot get the 'upper hand' cause it simply don't exist. Illness is the body self-healing.

 

Nature has the answers.

55 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

A virus cannot get the 'upper hand' cause it simply don't exist.

 

Is that you JFK?

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I don't disagree with some of your post Sir. If the wound is wide, pull it sides together to stop blood flow and give a smaller area for the body to get to work.

 

Only the body can heal. A virus cannot get the 'upper hand' cause it simply don't exist. Illness is the body self-healing.

 

Nature has the answers.

I hope you do not have kids ! ?

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50 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I hope you do not have kids ! ?

That's not nice now Sir, is it?

 

We are as much a part of nature as an ant or a volcano. We are nature. Nature is us.

 

The first thing to do, right from the start, is get as good nutrition inside us as we can. That starts while we are in der womb. And that also means mother's milk for the first couple of years. Gradually from about 13/14 months a little solid food can be introduced. No cow's milk. No baby formula. In this early stage it is important that the mum eats well. As in very well.

 

Don't need any medical medicine, and certainly no vaccines.

 

The other side of the health coin is staying away from stuff that will harm the baby/toddler. Chemicals. EMFs. Lack of love and attention.

 

As the child gets older it will move onto eating solids and drinking fluids other than mother's milk. It is imperative that these youngsters stay away from processed food. Eat as varied a diet of fruit and veg as is reasonably possible. Some protein; as in eggs, cheese, meat etc. As little sugar as possible as enough will be available through the food.  Difficult, I know. as sugary things are so addictive. And stimulate our taste buds. I could go on; but you get my drift Hummin Sir.

 

The basis of good health is understanding that we are part of nature, and educating our children. And not just children.  At least 20/25% of doctor learning should be about food/nutrition and its vital role in keeping us healthy. There is no place what-so-ever for any vaccines. That's man-made nonsense. Based on. well; nothing but white-coat compromised $$$s.  And any medical interventions should be absolutely minimal.

 

Just one final word on food; if you don't know its origins; don't eat it.

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1 hour ago, CallumWK said:

 

Is that you JFK?

After all I've posted. You still think there are viruses that can harm us?

 

JFK RIP. RFK is a pussy cat. Get me in there. I'll rid the US of the charlatans.

37 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

After all I've posted. You still think there are viruses that can harm us?

 

JFK RIP. RFK is a pussy cat. Get me in there. I'll rid the US of the charlatans.

 

'After all you've posted'........   you believe repetition of your rubbish somehow makes it factual !!!!   :cheesy:

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

That's not nice now Sir, is it?

 

We are as much a part of nature as an ant or a volcano. We are nature. Nature is us.

 

The first thing to do, right from the start, is get as good nutrition inside us as we can. That starts while we are in der womb. And that also means mother's milk for the first couple of years. Gradually from about 13/14 months a little solid food can be introduced. No cow's milk. No baby formula. In this early stage it is important that the mum eats well. As in very well.

 

Don't need any medical medicine, and certainly no vaccines.

 

The other side of the health coin is staying away from stuff that will harm the baby/toddler. Chemicals. EMFs. Lack of love and attention.

 

As the child gets older it will move onto eating solids and drinking fluids other than mother's milk. It is imperative that these youngsters stay away from processed food. Eat as varied a diet of fruit and veg as is reasonably possible. Some protein; as in eggs, cheese, meat etc. As little sugar as possible as enough will be available through the food.  Difficult, I know. as sugary things are so addictive. And stimulate our taste buds. I could go on; but you get my drift Hummin Sir.

 

The basis of good health is understanding that we are part of nature, and educating our children. And not just children.  At least 20/25% of doctor learning should be about food/nutrition and its vital role in keeping us healthy. There is no place what-so-ever for any vaccines. That's man-made nonsense. Based on. well; nothing but white-coat compromised $$$s.  And any medical interventions should be absolutely minimal.

 

Just one final word on food; if you don't know its origins; don't eat it.

 

I agree on whole food and clean food, but seriously we have a history of 1000 of years proving you wrong, but if this is what we went back to, we would depopulate this world with 75% in less than a century. That could be nice for some 

8 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

After all I've posted. You still think there are viruses that can harm us?

 

 

Shhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

You're gonna piss off "Big Prophylactic"!

 

Imagine the drop in sales when people learn that HIV and herpes and HPV are just psychosomatic symptoms of a disturbance in the force.

 

I'm sure our happy community will be pleased to know that monkeys aren't real.  Unprotected sex for everyone!  Woo-hoo!

 

 

On 10/19/2025 at 5:47 PM, Stiddle Mump said:

Indeed I was Sir.

 

That was about 30 years ago. Moved on since those days.

 

Now, only sing the praises of nature. 

 

This one that celebrated its 25th anniversary this year ?

 

http://www.harlestonchoralsoc.org.uk/

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7 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

'After all you've posted'........   you believe repetition of your rubbish somehow makes it factual !!!!   :cheesy:

 

The truth is the truth; no matter what I think.

 

We are nature. Nature is us.

6 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

The truth is the truth; no matter what I think.

 

We are nature. Nature is us.

As well.... the truth is the truth.... no matter what you say so often.

 

Platitudes seem to be the only content from you that carries a smidgen of truth.

 

You seem willfully ignorant that a large percentage of drugs are simply found to occur in nature.  Scientists and researchers then find what natural body process is changed by the drug.  The drug is potentially useful for adjusting the bodily function that may be compromised by disease, environmental factors or both.  No need for you to remind anyone... the scientists are continually studying nature without nonsense from you.

On 10/20/2025 at 8:30 PM, Stiddle Mump said:

The truth is the truth; no matter what I think.

 

We are nature. Nature is us.

 

You might like this:

"How Medicine Replaced Healing"

 

 

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12 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

You might like this:

"How Medicine Replaced Healing"

 

 

Agree with most of the doc's podcast message.

 

Education is the key. It would take several generations to fully return humans, and domesticated animals, to much better health outcomes than what are currently on show.

3 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Agree with most of the doc's podcast message.

 

Education is the key. It would take several generations to fully return humans, and domesticated animals, to much better health outcomes than what are currently on show.

Return humans to what? 

 

Please elaborate what we should turn back to? 

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