Just read in Pattaya news another suicide by a American man in Jomtien who left a letter of suicide 

 

Absolutely sad this is going on, terrible no counselling is available 

 

But I would like to complete studies & analysis on this ,where could I get a list maybe of Pattaya Suicides on 2025?

I'm only interested in farang/foreigners suicides 

 

Do you personally know of a farang who committed suicide in Pattaya ?

 

They say the people can be acting "normal " days before their suicide some  even in a happy state ?

 

1 minute ago, georgegeorgia said:

Absolutely sad this is going on

Why are you sad?

It's been going on since you were in nappies 

People can act normal for years while suffering from depression. That they are sometimes appearing happier at the end is because they know the pain will soon be over. Most do not want the stigma attached to them, so many never tell anyone what they're feeling. What they don't realize is the help they need could be the next person they talk to, who understands at least some of what they're going through, and can offer an ear or advice to seek help, but it's still up to them to seek it.

 

Why would you want to know about foreign suicides unless you wanted to somehow help? If you actually did, the first thing is educating yourself on how to approach someone you think might be suicidal or sad, which means you need to personally know them, at least for awhile, because everyone gets sad and depressed at times, and separating the majority from the minority takes time.

 

The worst thing you can do is not to educate yourself and just start talking to someone, trying to give them advice, which could not help but make matters worse. Many try to tell people to just "snap out of it", thinking it's something they can readily do. They've already tried that themselves and know it doesn't work. Having sympathy for others is good, but trying to help them without knowing how isn't going to work.

27 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

I would like to complete studies & analysis on this ,where could I get a list maybe of Pattaya Suicides on 2025?

Try the Pattaya Suicide Directory 2025.   If you can't source the info that you need (and even think that such a list exists) , God knows how you could contemplate "a study and analysis" of the subject.   You could, of course, just make it all up then post your "study and analysis" here as fact, as so many AN posters do!

25 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

They say the people can be acting "normal " days before their suicide some  even in a happy state ?

 

 

Masked depression......though that diagnosis is not officially used anymore.

 

 

Is counselling going to help someone who has run out of money? 

 

Should be a civilised way to pull the plug for any reason, could be ill health, money, anything

 

 

7 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Try the Pattaya Suicide Directory 2025.   If you can't source the info that you need (and even think that such a list exists) , God knows how you could contemplate "a study and analysis" of the subject.   You could, of course, just make it all up then post your "study and analysis" here as fact, as so many AN posters do!

Yes it would be great if we could get people on here to study this sad trend and do graphs on it

And once again I'm only interested in farang suicide 

 

Is it increasing? 

What are the average ages ?

What nationality are they mostly?

What is the times of months ?

Statistics that are important in this national tragedy 

2 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Is counselling going to help someone who has run out of money? 

 

Should be a civilised way to pull the plug for any reason, could be ill health, money, anything

 

 

Yes very interesting on the reasons why 

Might not be financially,could've terminal illness as well if even mental health, 

36 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

 

 

But I would like to complete studies & analysis on this ,where could I get a list maybe of Pattaya Suicides on 2025?

 

 

 

Sign up and they will notify when it is back online.

 

 

 

1 minute ago, georgegeorgia said:

Yes it would be great if we could get people on here to study this sad trend and do graphs on it

And once again I'm only interested in farang suicide 

 

Is it increasing? 

What are the average ages ?

What nationality are they mostly?

What is the times of months ?

Statistics that are important in this national tragedy 

 

 

Could be tricky separating out accidents and murders from your data.......pretty there must be some mixed in with the 'suicides'

Should anyone need assistance with ideation, this is a good place to contact.

 

https://www.samaritansthai.com/

41 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Just read in Pattaya news another suicide by a American man in Jomtien who left a letter of suicide 

 

Absolutely sad this is going on, terrible no counselling is available 

 

But I would like to complete studies & analysis on this ,where could I get a list maybe of Pattaya Suicides on 2025?

I'm only interested in farang/foreigners suicides 

 

Do you personally know of a farang who committed suicide in Pattaya ?

 

They say the people can be acting "normal " days before their suicide some  even in a happy state ?

 

How many came on a one way ticket to Pattaya and hoped to find paradise? You constantly reporting negativity from Pattaya, but returns every year even you trying to escape to other places, that’s where you ending up in a melancholy state of mind, seeing all the things that makes you depressed. 

 

Why cultivating negativity? There is a way to escape the darkness and it starts with one posetive thought, making a new one, and progress until you have cleared most of the darkness you got inside you. Like a garden you have to care for your mental health, and this is the way to do it

6 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

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That's been dead for 2+ years

15 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Is counselling going to help someone who has run out of money? 

 

These people often don't know where to get help...

 

If one runs out of money, the obvious step to take is go home. Embassies will help to contact relatives, or friends for money. (The embassy otherwise may lend the money, getting it back later. - Been there, so I know that it is easy for a foreign ministry to track down one's whereabouts to ask for the money back...)

3 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

That's been dead for 2+ years

 

Thanks for the heads up.

 

 

 

11 hours ago, Hummin said:

How many came on a one way ticket to Pattaya and hoped to find paradise? You constantly reporting negativity from Pattaya, but returns every year even you trying to escape to other places, that’s where you ending up in a melancholy state of mind, seeing all the things that makes you depressed. 

 

Why cultivating negativity? There is a way to escape the darkness and it starts with one posetive thought, making a new one, and progress until you have cleared most of the darkness you got inside you. Like a garden you have to care for your mental health, and this is the way to do it

 

But this guy got attacked by monkeys in Lopburi.

Some people have a dark cloud over their head following them wherever they go. 

Don't blame Pattaya. 

 

Yeah, "clearing out the darkness inside" sounds like a good idea.

Got a manual for that?

 

11 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

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I stumbled upon that site a while back.

It's so morbid it will induce suicidal thoughts. 

I can't read that stuff.

There's enough stories about suicides on AN. 

 

Pattaya is the pits. Full of money suckers and needy people on some level. If you ever feel suicidal there the best thing to do is move away asap.

 

That constant needy energy gets to you whether you admit it or not. The reason being is that you can't really avoid the people there, even if you stay out of the bars and certain areas.

30 minutes ago, Hummin said:

How many came on a one way ticket to Pattaya and hoped to find paradise? You constantly reporting negativity from Pattaya, but returns every year even you trying to escape to other places, that’s where you ending up in a melancholy state of mind, seeing all the things that makes you depressed. 

 

Why cultivating negativity? There is a way to escape the darkness and it starts with one posetive thought, making a new one, and progress until you have cleared most of the darkness you got inside you. Like a garden you have to care for your mental health, and this is the way to do it

Oh and that's the problem with people like you trying to sweep this tragedy under the carpet !!!

How dare you !

 

We shouldn't be reporting it ?

it's negativity  so we must not talk about it ?

How dare you Sir ,how dare you ,it needs to be spoke about to prevent it 

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Discuss the topic, not other members, please.

 

 

@Zaphod Priest

 

 

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

 

But this guy got attacked by monkeys in Lopburi.

Some people have a dark cloud over their head following them wherever they go. 

Don't blame Pattaya. 

 

Yeah, "clearing out the darkness inside" sounds like a good idea.

Got a manual for that?

 

Same as you go to gym every day or exercise, you need to do the same with your brain to improve, but this is 24/7 work where you turn every dark negative thought and feelings in to positivity. Takes in average 66 days to change habits, so better start working. Physical exercise together with mental exercise do help. There is no secret short cuts to better health, just discipline and dedication 

 

Cognitive self-help refers to using techniques based on Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) to manage mental health, focusing on changing negative thought patterns and behaviors to improve feelings and well-being. This can include self-help exercises like thought journaling, practicing gratitude, and using resources like online programs or guided self-help programs with a professional. The goal is to learn practical, lifelong coping skills to challenge unhelpful thinking and improve emotional regulation

 

2 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Oh and that's the problem with people like you trying to sweep this tragedy under the carpet !!!

How dare you !

 

We shouldn't be reporting it ?

it's negativity  so we must not talk about it ?

How dare you Sir ,how dare you 

Who said we should not talk about it, it is just how we deal with it. When someone are depressed, they carry the whole world on their shoulders, and it starts with guilt, and how we deal with guilt, that’s step one, and we all have to free us self for guilt and how we see the world around us. 

 

You can troll as much you want, but if we want to improve the world we have to start with our self first. 

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

 

But I would like to complete studies & analysis on this ,where could I get a list maybe of Pattaya Suicides on 2025?

Better that you do not , you might end up as a statistic 

 

regards Worgeordie

 

 

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

Just read in Pattaya news another suicide by a American man in Jomtien who left a letter of suicide 

 

Absolutely sad this is going on, terrible no counselling is available 

 

But I would like to complete studies & analysis on this ,where could I get a list maybe of Pattaya Suicides on 2025?

I'm only interested in farang/foreigners suicides 

 

Do you personally know of a farang who committed suicide in Pattaya ?

 

They say the people can be acting "normal " days before their suicide some  even in a happy state ?

 

Move to Udon. Happy place.

For males that are depressed, there are two things that cause it in a disprortionate number of cases (non-military related cases)... money or women.

28 minutes ago, Hummin said:

How many came on a one way ticket to Pattaya and hoped to find paradise? You constantly reporting negativity from Pattaya, but returns every year even you trying to escape to other places, that’s where you ending up in a melancholy state of mind, seeing all the things that makes you depressed. 

 

Why cultivating negativity? There is a way to escape the darkness and it starts with one posetive thought, making a new one, and progress until you have cleared most of the darkness you got inside you. Like a garden you have to care for your mental health, and this is the way to do it

When a person gets so low they are thinking of suicide, they aren't capable of positive thoughts, as their thinking suicide means they aren't thinking positively. The only way out is them seeking help, cognitive behavior therapy, from a dedicated professional, and possible medicine for the symptoms. 

One day in the not too distant future people will be able to walk into a pharmacy and say I'm ready for the pod, go out back and have a pleasant death - not some awful suicide involving condo flying or some other way

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

When a person gets so low they are thinking of suicide, they aren't capable of positive thoughts, as their thinking suicide means they aren't thinking positively. The only way out is them seeking help, cognitive behavior therapy, from a dedicated professional, and possible medicine for the symptoms. 

That’s the end results of cultivating negativity. 

 

How to prevent depression is as said above. Depression comes and goes, and for some it turns in the severe state, and understand the pattern is one thing, and what to do and not to do when the depression eases, is another. 

 

Complicated, but the methods to deal with it is the same. For some medication is necessary, for others guiding and therapy to gain the knowledge how to deal with it. 

 

But before anything else, acknowledge you got a problem is nr 1, and start from there with dedication and discipline. 

Two off topic posts removed.

 

@save the frogs

 

@Harrisfan

9 minutes ago, Hummin said:

That’s the end results of cultivating negativity. 

 

How to prevent depression is as said above. Depression comes and goes, and for some it turns in the severe state, and understand the pattern is one thing, and what to do and not to do when the depression eases, is another. 

 

Complicated, but the methods to deal with it is the same. For some medication is necessary, for others guiding and therapy to gain the knowledge how to deal with it. 

 

But before anything else, acknowledge you got a problem is nr 1, and start from there with dedication and discipline. 

Many live good lives, around good family and friends, with a support system, good diet and exercise, then still take their lives. Most of it, besides environmental and seasonal, is genetics. Depression does come and go, but for some it gets like a dark cloud that doesn't go away, and when they are that low, nothing besides professional help will stop what they think is the best endgame.