11 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

One day in the not too distant future people will be able to walk into a pharmacy and say I'm ready for the pod, go out back and have a pleasant death - not some awful suicide involving condo flying or some other way

 

Buddhism is against suicide. 

Why not learn how to deal with your problems? 

Not sure what they mean by "another form of suffering" here. Possibly referring to the after-life. 

Which is a bit too esoteric maybe.

 

12 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Is counselling going to help someone who has run out of money? 

 

Most of us come from welfare countries.

 

There are people back home who stay on welfare their whole lives and have never worked a day in their life.

 

It's not an excuse to kill yourself. 

 

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

 

Buddhism is against suicide. 

Why not learn how to deal with your problems? 

Not sure what they mean by "another form of suffering" here. Possibly referring to the after-life. 

Which is a bit too esoteric maybe.

 

And in Christianity, God is against someone taking their own life, as it's our most precious thing. I do understand those who are suffering from painful diseases, and there is no real answer for that. 

2 minutes ago, Trippy said:

Why does the OP have such a fascination and starting multiple topics about somewhere he's never going back to?

 

I'm guessing it's because he feels superior to the expats that actually live in Pattaya.

 

 

"He'll be back"!

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Many live good lives, around good family and friends, with a support system, good diet and exercise, then still take their lives. Most of it, besides environmental and seasonal, is genetics. Depression does come and go, but for some it gets like a dark cloud that doesn't go away, and when they are that low, nothing besides professional help will stop what they think is the best endgame. 

Back to priority nr 1 acknowledge you got a problem and seek help.

 

Many avoiding the fact they have a problem, and start feeding on others misery and or blaims everyone else for all their problems, and will not acknowledge healing starts with them.

 

As said Complex and difficult when all you see a wall of problems and do not know where to start. 

 

And excuse me for being straight forward on this complex and dangerous problem for those it comcern, but I have been there digging myself down before, and looking back, it is not something I wish on my worst enemy. 

 

I was lucky, and managed to pull myself out with some help, but I had to do the work myself, and that is a process I'm still working on, and can not give up

 

 

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Just now, Hummin said:

Back to priority nr 1 acknowledge you for a problem and seek help.

 

Many avoiding the fact they have a problem, and start feeding on others misery and or blaims everyone else for all their problems, and will not acknowledge healing starts with them.

 

As said Complex and difficult when all you see a wall of problems and do not know where to start. 

 

 

Most go inside and blame themselves and bad luck for their feelings, so yes, acknowledgement is the best first recourse. If you know you have a treatable problem, you take steps to control it before it controls you. 

10 hours ago, Hummin said:

As said Complex and difficult when all you see a wall of problems and do not know where to start. 

 

One of the things I remembered when reading Buddhism many years ago is they say you need to "cultivate your mind" or something like that. Don't quote me.

It's precisely so you have tools to navigate your way through difficulties. 

 

A lot of depression can be caused by a simple nutrient deficiency. If people stretched their minds more, they would find solutions to their problems. 

 

6 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

One of the things I remembered when reading Buddhism many years ago is they say you need to "cultivate your mind" or something like that. Don't quote me.

It's precisely so you have tools to navigate your way through difficulties. 

 

A lot of depression can be caused by a simple nutrient deficiency. If people stretched their minds more, they would find solutions to their problems. 

 

Well I had no problems until I got chronic issues and pain, and all the Dr's and specialists focused mainly on my physical health and not my mental health.

 

All my life I had done overload of work and exercise which finely hit me hard when I could not walk anymore because of severe pain. 

 

If I had stopped once before and asked myself why I pushed myself so hard until a physical breakdown, I could had avoided my mental breakdowns. 

 

We all trying to escape reality one way or the other. 

 

Nutrition is one important piece in the puzzle 

35 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

One day in the not too distant future people will be able to walk into a pharmacy and say I'm ready for the pod, go out back and have a pleasant death - not some awful suicide involving condo flying or some other way

 

Hopefully, but if someone makes the decision for you? Or mentally push you?

 

Norsemen a norwegian Viking comedy making a spinn on the myth that the elderly and disabled did throw themselves off a cliff, or was thrown off. However it is no proof it really happened for real. 

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

Oh and that's the problem with people like you trying to sweep this tragedy under the carpet !!!

How dare you !

 

We shouldn't be reporting it ?

it's negativity  so we must not talk about it ?

How dare you Sir ,how dare you ,it needs to be spoke about to prevent it 

Ignoring problems is part of the Buddhist thing. It works great if you live in a monestary, but for the average bloke in Pattaya it don't work so great 😂.

2 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Just read in Pattaya news another suicide by a American man in Jomtien who left a letter of suicide 

 

Absolutely sad this is going on, terrible no counselling is available 

 

But I would like to complete studies & analysis on this ,where could I get a list maybe of Pattaya Suicides on 2025?

I'm only interested in farang/foreigners suicides 

 

Do you personally know of a farang who committed suicide in Pattaya ?

 

They say the people can be acting "normal " days before their suicide some  even in a happy state ?

 

 

You are a very, very bored individual.

 

I would think the best and easiest place to get this information is the Pattaya PD. 

 

So, if you are in Thailand before you yourself meet your maker feel free to stroll in and ask. 

 

Around 2008 I estimated that on average one foreigner died a week in Pattaya of/ for something. I have not been to Pattaya since 09. The foreign population local and transient has probably quadrupled. As nothing more than I guestimate I'd venture 2.5 deaths a week on average with no less than .5 to 1 being fairly clear suicide. There may be addl more murky unaliviing. Those are just cut dry cases like notes, pills and jumpers

 

This is nothing scientific, but it was an item of interest years ago because I was shocked at all the deaths back then and have sort of followed it since. 

 

I have no interest discussing the matter further

2 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Statistics that are important in this national tragedy 

National tragedy?  Nonsense.

How did your previous studies on deaths in Pattaya turn out?

 

 

 

 

We all end up dead one way or another. Some just choose to die when they choose.

3 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Just read in Pattaya news another suicide by a American man in Jomtien who left a letter of suicide 

 

Absolutely sad this is going on, terrible no counselling is available 

 

But I would like to complete studies & analysis on this ,where could I get a list maybe of Pattaya Suicides on 2025?

I'm only interested in farang/foreigners suicides 

 

Do you personally know of a farang who committed suicide in Pattaya ?

 

They say the people can be acting "normal " days before their suicide some  even in a happy state ?

 

Why would you want to do that?

What would you do with it?

Perhaps your time might be better spent helping and counselling lonely farangs in Pattaya.

Could start with your friend at Flybird condo.

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

One of the things I remembered when reading Buddhism many years ago is they say you need to "cultivate your mind" or something like that. Don't quote me.

It's precisely so you have tools to navigate your way through difficulties. 

 

A lot of depression can be caused by a simple nutrient deficiency. If people stretched their minds more, they would find solutions to their problems. 

 

Vitamin B ?

Suicides is a worldwide problem.  I do not believe Pattaya is any better or worse even if you read about it in the news every month. 
In the UK just in the last 4 weeks 2 famous men took their own life, they rarely report suicides in the UK. But it just shows it's happening on a regular basis. 

If you are depressed there are help available as already mentioned in this thread.  

23 minutes ago, balo said:

If you are depressed there are help available as already mentioned in this thread.  

Yes I believe their is an organisation called the Samaritans in Pattaya 

 

 

2 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Yes I believe their is an organisation called the Samaritans in Pattaya 

 

 

 

As Balo said, already mentioned in this thread.

 

3 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

Buddhism is against suicide. 

Why not learn how to deal with your problems? 

Not sure what they mean by "another form of suffering" here. Possibly referring to the after-life. 

Which is a bit too esoteric maybe.

 

Some people believe in aliens and pixies too doesn't make it right. There's something like 2000 gods, they can't all be right 

3 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

One day in the not too distant future people will be able to walk into a pharmacy and say I'm ready for the pod, go out back and have a pleasant death - not some awful suicide involving condo flying or some other way

 

The pod is already available. Its called the sarco pod. Out of Switzerland.

 

 

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

 

Hopefully, but if someone makes the decision for you? Or mentally push you?

 

Norsemen a norwegian Viking comedy making a spinn on the myth that the elderly and disabled did throw themselves off a cliff, or was thrown off. However it is no proof it really happened for real. 

 

 

 

 

unless they allow people to die in a civilised way people will continue to go condo flying and other horrible ways

1 minute ago, blaze master said:

 

The pod is already available. Its called the sarco pod. Out of Switzerland.

 

 

I'm talking Thailand 

3 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

Most of us come from welfare countries.

 

There are people back home who stay on welfare their whole lives and have never worked a day in their life.

 

It's not an excuse to kill yourself. 

 

Some people don't want to go through the welfare, such as the American. Have you seen all the fentanyl zombies  in American? they'll want to die sooner or later

2 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

I'm talking Thailand 

 

The company will ship the pod world wide to accommodate your needs.

14 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

The company will ship the pod world wide to accommodate your needs.

yeah right, they will ship it to Soi Buakhao Nikom Court?

2 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

yeah right, they will ship it to Soi Buakhao Nikom Court?

 

Yes.

20 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

Yes.

Good, get 10 delivered there ASAP

Thailand in general has a very low suicide rate of about 8 per 100,000 people compared to many countries that average a little higher. The US is around 15-20 per 100,000. And some countries are even higher per 100,000 people:

 

1 Lesotho ~72.4

2 Guyana ~40.3

3 Eswatini ~29.4

4 South Korea ~28.6

5 Kiribati ~28.3

6 Micronesia ~28.2

7 Lithuania ~26.1

8 Suriname ~25.4

9 Russia ~25.1

10 South Africa ~23.5