1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

You mean the National Socialists didnt salute with their arm outstretched?

 

 

O dear, I always thought that you have general knowledge. And now I see that you just don't have the expected education.

Sorry, my fault.

 

Were the Nazis socialists? No, not in any meaningful way, and certainly not after 1934. 

I could give you the historical background, but it would be a waste of time anyway.

 

Socialist salute:

 

Hitler salute

15 hours ago, riclag said:

The United States has no obligation to host foreigners who wish harm on Americans.

 

Original quote was:“The United States has no obligation to host foreigners who wish death on Americans,” the department said

State Department revokes visas over Kirk criticism

"The department did not identify the visa holders by name or specify what type of visas were revoked".

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/15/state-department-visas-revoked-charlie-kirk-criticism-00608817

The Story is based on a Politico Report

I have no intention at all to visit a police state ruled by a racist wannabee dictator.

11 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

Were the Nazis socialists? No, not in any meaningful way, and certainly not after 1934. 

So you are conceding that the National Socialists were socialists before 1934?

 

Are you still doing that trite Musk Hoax?

 

Tell me, if someone came to your country and burnt your flag would you kick him out? How about burning a Koran?

5 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

I have no intention at all to visit a police state ruled by a racist wannabee dictator.

You cant afford it either?

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

There is no freedom of speech for guests in a country.

 

Why dont you show them your regular Thai bashing when you hit the border then?

I suggest you read the U.S. Constitution, refer the First Amendment.

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

I suggest you read the U.S. Constitution, refer the First Amendment.

I suggest you show us the case where it says a  visitor to the USA has a full panoply of constituional rights. I suggest you show me anything that shows someone is entitled to a visa. I suggest you show me ANY country in the world that does not reserve the right to toss out visa holders or deny anyone entrance for any reason whatsoever.

 

I defy you stand in the Plaza at Siam Square Mall with a sign that says "Thailand Sucks, Cambodia is Right"

15 hours ago, riclag said:

The United States has no obligation to host foreigners who wish harm on Americans.

 

Original quote was:“The United States has no obligation to host foreigners who wish death on Americans,” the department said

State Department revokes visas over Kirk criticism

"The department did not identify the visa holders by name or specify what type of visas were revoked".

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/15/state-department-visas-revoked-charlie-kirk-criticism-00608817

The Story is based on a Politico Report

The US statement and position are correct and probably also correct for most countries in the world. The problem underlying this statement is the way its being applied out of context in a country that guarantees free speech. Like many issues within the USA, trumps admin follow his direction so they tout the issue but apply it in an F'd up way to accomplish their agenda and have talking points.

3 hours ago, JimHuaHin said:

What sane person (apart from fascists and Neo-Nazis) would want to go to the USA at this time?

They won't let you in with a potty mouth like that. The US is awesome to visit for those with money.

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

I dont bend my knee to anyone bro, and your lot are The Socialists who would line all wrongthinkers up against the wall.

 

Ahhh… The old ‘I’m rubber, you’re glue’ response. 
I have seen that one since the school yard. But it’s not surprising. 

I didn't celebrate the murder of the hate speech guy.  I looked at it with the same indifference that he looked at children being murdered in school shooting... nothing more and nothing less.

Sadly, I have family in the Land of the Free.  My mom has had to be placed in assisted living since my last visit, so I have to visit fairly soon. 

I would never step foot in the US again if I didn't have family there.  It is an absolutely beautiful country, but I'm not overly fond of the inhabitants (from both political camps).  
 

5 minutes ago, FolkGuitar said:

Ahhh… The old ‘I’m rubber, you’re glue’ response. 
I have seen that one since the school yard. But it’s not surprising. 

You are the one with the Proud Stalinist as your avatar.

 

3 minutes ago, Galong said:

It is an absolutely beautiful country, but I'm not overly fond of the inhabitants (from both political camps).  

Thats fair.

23 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

So you are conceding that the National Socialists were socialists before 1934?

As I have already written before - you have zero interest in history.

A Nazi isn't a socialist. Or would you call Trump a socialist?

 

25 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Are you still doing that trite Musk Hoax?

So a confirmed Photograph that went around the globe is a hoax... Geeez.

 

27 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Tell me, if someone came to your country and burnt your flag would you kick him out? How about burning a Koran?

This hardly happens in the country where I grew up. And if so he or she wouldn't get kicked out.

 

Such weirdos don't gain any political power there. Because the people there became a solid education. United, not divided as the hate spewing Magastanies prefer.

 

It's also called "Freedom of religion and expression".

 

That's what you seemed to miss somehow. Shown by youre 3 questions above.

14 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

A Nazi isn't a socialist.

There is an open topic. Go find it. A National Socialist is a Socialist.

 

15 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

So a confirmed Photograph that went around the globe is a hoax... Geeez.

No the intent behind his gesture hoax.

 

16 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

his hardly happens in the country where I grew up. And if so he or she wouldn't get kicked out.

 

Such weirdos don't gain any political power there. Because the people there became a solid education. United, not divided as the hate spewing Magastanies prefer.

 

It's also called "Freedom of religion and expression".

 

That's what you seemed to miss somehow. Shown by youre 3 questions above.

Nice avoidance LOL.

 

 

16 hours ago, riclag said:

“The United States has no obligation to host foreigners who wish death on Americans,”

 

 

Not too sure there are many nations overly keen to host people who wish death on them.

 

Seems eminently sensible not to host them.

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

A National Socialist is a Socialist

The Nazi Party, officially the National Socialist German Workers' Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP), was a far-right political party in Germany active between 1920 and 1945 that created and supported the ideology of Nazism.

 

You won't read it anyway, but here some history for you.

 

https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists

 

1 minute ago, Schoggibueb said:

The Nazi Party, officially the National Socialist German Workers' Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP), was a far-right political party in Germany active between 1920 and 1945 that created and supported the ideology of Nazism.

 

You won't read it anyway, but here some history for you.

 

https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists

 

 

 

He doesn't need to. He is the world's foremost authority.

 

3 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

The Nazi Party, officially the National Socialist German Workers' Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP), was a far-right political party in Germany active between 1920 and 1945 that created and supported the ideology of Nazism.

 

You won't read it anyway, but here some history for you.

 

https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists

 

I dont have others think for me.

2 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

He doesn't need to. He is the world's foremost authority.

 

You know where the topic is, head over and try

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

I dont have others think for me.

As I wrote - a lack of education. I would almost feel sorry for you - but somehow can't.

16 hours ago, riclag said:

The United States has no obligation to host foreigners who wish harm on Americans.

 

Original quote was:“The United States has no obligation to host foreigners who wish death on Americans,” the department said

State Department revokes visas over Kirk criticism

"The department did not identify the visa holders by name or specify what type of visas were revoked".

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/15/state-department-visas-revoked-charlie-kirk-criticism-00608817

The Story is based on a Politico Report

As a US citizen, I personally detest this open attack on the First Amendment.  I see this eventually going before the SCOTUS.  The First Amendment protections of freedom of speech apply to everyone in the country legally.  But?  The Supreme Court needs to weigh in.  Until they do, the State Department will just continue to revoke visa of individuals who say things the government doesn't like.  

59 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

I suggest you show us the case where it says a  visitor to the USA has a full panoply of constituional rights. I suggest you show me anything that shows someone is entitled to a visa. I suggest you show me ANY country in the world that does not reserve the right to toss out visa holders or deny anyone entrance for any reason whatsoever.

 

I defy you stand in the Plaza at Siam Square Mall with a sign that says "Thailand Sucks, Cambodia is Right"

I’ll decline your ridiculous strawman.

 

Here, enjoy:

 

https://www.rocketlawyer.com/family-and-personal/general-legal-matters/legal-guide/know-your-rights-immigration-rights-and-protections#:~:text=Many citizens came to the,access to specific citizen rights.

15 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’ll decline your ridiculous strawman.

 

Of course you will. You lost LOL

2 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

It is possible to set up email accounts that are virtually impossible to trace.  Plenty of info on the Net about how to do it.

And how many of AN posters have such an address ?

2 hours ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Yes, but would AN give out that information to authorities?

I'm sure they would , especially to UK or US and Thai authorities.

Or they just hack the site to get the info.

And what happens to US citizen who celebrated the demise of that AH? They get executed?

 

Anyhow, had a party with some normal humans somewhere in Asia.

7 hours ago, bunnydrops said:

Of course, if you are an American It's OK. Let our leader lead by example.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/01/cheney-trump-firing-squad-threats-are-how-dictators-destroy-free-nations-00186707

He does lead by example , Ive seen it many times !  In the decade since he’s been around he has mentioned at least 100x in celebration of respect & patriotism , the flag of my country.

Something the international left & the domestic far left would rather see discredited.

 

 

 

1 minute ago, riclag said:

He does lead by example , Ive seen it many times !  In the decade since he’s been around he has mentioned at least 100x in celebration of respect & patriotism , the flag of my country.

Something the international left & the domestic far left would rather see discredited.

 

 

 

 

 

In the UK these types are written off as cretinous "Flag Shaggers".

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Schoggibueb said:

O dear, I always thought that you have general knowledge. And now I see that you just don't have the expected education.

Sorry, my fault.

 

Were the Nazis socialists? No, not in any meaningful way, and certainly not after 1934. 

I could give you the historical background, but it would be a waste of time anyway.

 

Socialist salute:

 

Hitler salute

Reality, both sides are shooting "Roman Salutes" or none of them are shooting Roman Salutes.  

These meme have one purpose.  To agitate the "other side."  I find this debate about politicians "shooting Nazi (Roman) salutes" to be really tiring and rather absurd. Everyone is "waving."

 

This 👇is meant to agitate and create discord as are these ☝️.  Don't fall for it.

11 hours ago, Oliver Holzerfilled said:

It might be of interest to ALL posters here. Especially for those that are planning to enter the US, having posted some negative comments about the current administration.

Why would I wish to enter Tacoland? I fly Iberia to go to Latin America as these idiots force you to clear immigration even for a connection. So I banned US amd UK airlines since 2004. They fly these garbage Boeing things anyway...

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

I suggest you show us the case where it says a  visitor to the USA has a full panoply of constituional rights. I suggest you show me anything that shows someone is entitled to a visa. I suggest you show me ANY country in the world that does not reserve the right to toss out visa holders or deny anyone entrance for any reason whatsoever.

 

I defy you stand in the Plaza at Siam Square Mall with a sign that says "Thailand Sucks, Cambodia is Right"

 

Yes, because that's the gold standard, isn't it.