14 hours ago, KhunLA said:

No need to, just keep taking out the drug shipments as they leave.  Simple enough.  Park a CSG off Venezuela & Columbia, problem solved.

 I like your thoughts on this. Its a Scary situation no doubt ! I use to be a snowbird on the island Of Aruba 500 mi. away  from Venezuela.

I was good friends with a Arubian border patrol agent ,the Island was constantly being used for trafficking drugs back when I was there 20 years ago. Its a big cruise ship port area I hate to see

the Narco Terrorism start laying siege to the cruise  ship market imop

Well if you really consider the fact that the US has not won a war since World War II (unless you count Panama and Grenada), it's probably not a good idea for the US to be invading any country. 

 

Doing so seems to end up in a 10 or 20 year conflict that costs trillions of dollars, so probably not a wise decision. And besides they keep on saying that Trump is a man of peace, LOL. 

On 10/18/2025 at 6:57 AM, emptypockets said:

You really hope that?

How many American teenagers died in Vietnam?

War as depicted by Hollywood doesn't only involve battle hardened tough guys, most of the cannon fodder are sheet scared 18 and 19 year olds who don't want to be there, but are generally forced to by old,fat, politicians passing laws that they know will never put them in the line of fire.

I totally agree and I think that a great prerequisite for future presidential candidates would be that they only qualify if they have children of the proper age to serve in the military, and they volunteer to serve in the military should their father decide to declare a war. It seems only fair to send your own offspring into war, after all back in the days the Kings themselves used to march into war, but these days King Don is way too much of a coward to do anything like that. Also he's having a very hard time walking these days, and they don't have handrails out in the battlefield. 

On 10/18/2025 at 6:57 AM, emptypockets said:

You really hope that?

How many American teenagers died in Vietnam?

War as depicted by Hollywood doesn't only involve battle hardened tough guys, most of the cannon fodder are sheet scared 18 and 19 year olds who don't want to be there, but are generally forced to by old,fat, politicians passing laws that they know will never put them in the line of fire.

 

Recently saw a movie (Brit) where a military veteran is telling a young soldier that the whole game is bs: posh guys telling fat guys to kill poor guys.

(but instead of "guys" he used that c-word that the Yanks find more egregious than the f-word).

I've been on a war movie spree the past month.  I grew up in the years following WWII with the heroic "war is hell but somebody has to do it" message and so on.  I finally got to see "Saving Private Ryan" and was surprised by the grisly detail right at the start.  In "Flags of Our Fathers" one character directly slams these "glories of war" statements -- 50 years ago they would probably  have pressured the film makers to cut that for having a defeatist attitude.  (BTW I think "Letters From Iwo Jima," the Japanese companion movie, is a very good piece of work, both directed by Eastwood).  Tried watching "Warfare" but when the casualties started  it was just too grisly for me.

 

Former US president Teddy Roosevelt had a glorified attitude toward war, but he got over that when he lost all his sons in WWI.

 

6 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Well if you really consider the fact that the US has not won a war since World War II (unless you count Panama and Grenada), it's probably not a good idea for the US to be invading any country. 

 

Doing so seems to end up in a 10 or 20 year conflict that costs trillions of dollars, so probably not a wise decision. And besides they keep on saying that Trump is a man of peace, LOL. 

You have to consider, the USA hasn't tried to win any war since WW II  

3 hours ago, KhunLA said:

You have to consider, the USA hasn't tried to win any war since WW II  

Either 3 people are in my 'trolling fan club', or a few folks don't understand how to make money.  Probably why you're not retired yet 

 

End a war, and you stop making money ...

... Vietnam War, the size of California, dragged on for 15+ yrs ... cha ching $$$$

... Iraq, invade & occupy ~20+ years ... cha ching $$$$

... Afghanistan, invade & occupy ~20 years ... cha ching $$$$

Repeat & rinse $$$$$

 

Sort of like Big Pharma, cure a disease, customer lost.   Treat the symptoms ... cha ching, never ending profits $$$$$

On 10/18/2025 at 7:29 PM, NickyLouie said:

 

Time to clean them up real nice like,

 

This is the man who is begging for a Nobel Peace Prize.

5 hours ago, KhunLA said:

You have to consider, the USA hasn't tried to win any war since WW II  

What a silly thing to say. Are we forgetting Korea? Vietnam? Afghanistan? Iraq? 

17 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

What a silly thing to say. Are we forgetting Korea? Vietnam? Afghanistan? Iraq? 

 

I think you need to do a bit more research ...

... N & S Korea, had a peace agreement ready, USA said no, no war, no profit

... N & S Vietnam, had a peace agreement & free elections planned,  except Uncle Ho was going to win ... nope, don't want it, no war, no profit

 

Enlighten yourself to the reality of war & profits.

 

To win a war, you have to decimate your opponent, Germany & Japan found out, what was coming,  and threw in the towel. 

 

Lessons learned, stop the war, and the profits stop.

 

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Either 3 people are in my 'trolling fan club', or a few folks don't understand how to make money.  Probably why you're not retired yet 

 

End a war, and you stop making money ...

... Vietnam War, the size of California, dragged on for 15+ yrs ... cha ching $$$$

... Iraq, invade & occupy ~20+ years ... cha ching $$$$

... Afghanistan, invade & occupy ~20 years ... cha ching $$$$

Repeat & rinse $$$$$

 

Sort of like Big Pharma, cure a disease, customer lost.   Treat the symptoms ... cha ching, never ending profits $$$$$

 

14 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Well if you really consider the fact that the US has not won a war since World War II (unless you count Panama and Grenada), it's probably not a good idea for the US to be invading any country. 

 

Doing so seems to end up in a 10 or 20 year conflict that costs trillions of dollars, so probably not a wise decision. And besides they keep on saying that Trump is a man of peace, LOL. 

The biggest problem is not so much the winning but garrisoning the the country afterwards and for how long?

 

You need to be able to put enough troops into a country 24/7/365, but you have to keep them supplied with food, water, fuel medicines etc. The nearest point to the USA is 1,500 miles away, so the supply chain is already that long, and it gets longer the deeper you go into the country. Just to reach Caracas you need to go through a fairly long tunnel, which if it were destroyed, cuts the main civil airport and docks off from the rest of the country until it is rebuilt and guarded 24/7/365.

4 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Either 3 people are in my 'trolling fan club', or a few folks don't understand how to make money.  Probably why you're not retired yet 

 

End a war, and you stop making money ...

... Vietnam War, the size of California, dragged on for 15+ yrs ... cha ching $$$$

... Iraq, invade & occupy ~20+ years ... cha ching $$$$

... Afghanistan, invade & occupy ~20 years ... cha ching $$$$

Repeat & rinse $$$$$

 

Sort of like Big Pharma, cure a disease, customer lost.   Treat the symptoms ... cha ching, never ending profits $$$$$

Some actually believe the US lost these wars, just because all objectives weren't met. Looking at the casualties on the other side, and the fact that the US could level any country if it really wanted to, is out of their reach of thinking, as they have no idea.

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

What a silly thing to say. Are we forgetting Korea? Vietnam? Afghanistan? Iraq? 

No, and look at the casualties on the other sides. Money being involved, there are reasons the US pulls out, and it has nothing to do with losing.

Should USA invade Venezuela ?

 

no   not unless they want another Vietnam,   but perhaps they do

along with a war with Russia, China and Iran  all at the same time

great stuff !!!!      not

 

On 10/18/2025 at 8:23 PM, jvs said:

Nicky,will that give him the Nobel Peace prize ?

No but families of folks murdered by the fentanyl trafficed into this Country by that dictatorial Socialist criminal Maduro will receive a measure of peace.

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

No but families of folks murdered by the fentanyl trafficed into this Country by that dictatorial Socialist criminal Maduro will receive a measure of peace.

 

Trump haters will never acknowledge this !

 

If this was done with the Colombians during the coke wars it would have stopped the flow dead in its tracks. Except Bill and Hillary Clinton were making nice cash in Mena Arkansas flying the dope in by the tons.

 

49 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

No but families of folks murdered by the fentanyl trafficed into this Country by that dictatorial Socialist criminal Maduro will receive a measure of peace.

Thanks Nicky.

Whilst one would generally not support invasions of foreign countries, in the case of Venzuela, a country that has failed its own people, is in total decline and beset by the communist virus and insane political leaders, surely an invasion would be beneficial for Venzuela?

56 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Whilst one would generally not support invasions of foreign countries, in the case of Venzuela, a country that has failed its own people, is in total decline and beset by the communist virus and insane political leaders, surely an invasion would be beneficial for Venzuela?

Venezuela? If you are telling the truth about this then yes sure why not?

There is another country that comes to mind,russia!

6 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

What a silly thing to say. Are we forgetting Korea? Vietnam? Afghanistan? Iraq? 

Lets see

 

Korea: thriving South vs disgusting North, and the only reason there is a North is because we chickened out.

 

Vietnam: helped break the back of the Soviet Union and created a counterweight to China, our Foreign Policy "experts" from several Democratic admisitrations misread that one though....now a great vacation spot, I hear we will be cutting a deal with  visas

 

Afghanistan: The graveyard of empires, but the Democrats again f'd things up. We should have kept Bagram.

 

Iraq: Guess its all quiet there now, now that we showed the barbarian Iranians whats up.

 

Wars are won in history as much as on the battlefield.

On 10/20/2025 at 10:59 AM, spidermike007 said:

What a silly thing to say. Are we forgetting Korea? Vietnam? Afghanistan? Iraq? 

 

On 10/20/2025 at 11:06 AM, KhunLA said:

I think you need to do a bit more research ...Enlighten yourself to the reality of war & profits...To win a war, you have to decimate your opponent, Germany & Japan found out, what was coming,  and threw in the towel. ..Lessons learned, stop the war, and the profits stop.

 

So have you done any more research, about Nam war ?

 

Defense contractors would have liked an 'endless' war ... BUT ... the people (USA) got a little tired of having their fathers, sons, mothers & daughters coming home in pine boxes.   Killing millions of Vietnamese, just wasn't a good look either.

 

Enough was enough, and thankfully 'Power to the People' ... time to end it.  And that took all of 12 days, to convince the North, time to end the silliness, or else.

 

Google '12 Days of Christmas'.   

 

Vietnam, the size of CA, USA, half N, half S, and you want people to believe, USA couldn't have won the war anytime they wanted.  It dragged on for 15+ years, because it was profitable.  That's all.

 

It too 12 Days when they decide to end it .... Let that sink in.

 

That was also the last war with 'free press' coverage, and the reality was a bit hard to stomach.