14 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

What your suggesting with witch hazel -- which is one of several potential home treatments -- might help reduce the discomfort of the skin lesions associated with shingles.

 

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/shingles-scabs-treatment

 

But, it does NOTHING for the more serious symptoms of shingles:

Long-term nerve pain

"The most common complication of shingles is long-term nerve pain called postherpetic neuralgia, or PHN.

 

PHN occurs where the shingles rash was located, even after the rash clears up. It can last for months or years after the rash goes away. PHN is extremely painful and can interfere with daily life."  [emphasis added]

 

Or even the other more minor symptoms:

 

"In addition to the common rash, symptoms of shingles can also include:

• Fever
• Headaches
• Chills
• Upset stomach"

https://www.cdc.gov/shingles/signs-symptoms/index.html

 

Fortunately, no one with any sense should be taking their medical advice from you.

 

Sir! I am not giving medical advice. Just suggesting that to reduce the aggravation of a rash; Witch Hazel is available. And is pretty effective. However! Witch Hazel is no cure.

 

IMO it is best to let the symptoms to run their course. Where is the sense in putting more poisons into the body to cure something that was almost certainly caused by one in the first place?

 

In today's world nature is often neglected. The fundamental truth of nature is that we are an integral part of it. The food we eat comes from the earth. Due to various factors (see my topics on food) our food is often not as nutritious as it should be. Sometimes lacking in essential minerals for instance. If these minerals are not present and the body is insulted with a medicine, or a toxin, it could be that it has not got the tools to fight it off in a way that one wouldn't even notice. 

 

IMO, 'shingles' is the result of toxicity coupled with a poor body defence. A defence that is lacks nutrients, over the course of time, to keep the body in balance.

 

Nature! So often taken for granted, but is the key to good health.

2 hours ago, KhaoHom said:

 

You do no such thing. You're links always point to sketchy purpose built sites set up to support the pro covid narrative. I've personally checked many

 

I'll never take another vaccine again. I don't know what's worse the vax or the lies that have surrounded it for years. 

 

Up to 60k dead attributable to clot shot. Verifiable. Per Grok. Potentially far higher 

 

Only the elderly and infirm will trust it and that's bc they have no alternative.

 

I was forced to get AZ shot. I would have refused any mRNA shot and walked from my job. The efficacy said to be marginal and the shot withdrawn from market 

 

Riding mass transit, working with large groups in close quarters many of which developed COVID - I did not. My wife similar situation - did not.

 

We also must acknowledge this virus was manufactured in a Chinese lab with US government approval and *oversight*. It was genetically manipulated. The virus was set loose upon the world. That's just fact. 

I was quite enjoying your post Sir; until the last para.

 

IMO, there was no virus what-so-ever. Either emerging fron a pangolin scale, a bat foot, or engineered in a money laundering lab (one of many throughout the world; read Ukraine).

 

Sir! Please hear me; it is very difficult indeed, if not impossible, to pass an illness from a sick person to a health one. There have been hundred of trials/experiments down the decades that have attempted to do this. Many, well documented ones, from the US Military during the 'Spanish Flu' era.

 

People can pass things on from one to another, and this is nature at work, to protect us. But not illness, as in germs; notably viruses. That don't exist anyway.

 

Nature is us. We are nature.

Recombinant Zoster Vaccine (Shingrix): Real-World Effectiveness in the First 2 Years Post-Licensure

Hector S Izurieta et al. Clin Infect Dis. 2021.

 

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33580242/

 

 

 

Conclusions:

 

This large real-world observational study of the effectiveness of Shingrix demonstrates the benefit of completing the 2-dose regimen. Second doses administered beyond the recommended 6 months did not impair effectiveness. Our effectiveness estimates were lower than the clinical trials estimates, likely due to differences in outcome specificity.-

 

 

 

 

Vaccine Chance of shingles after vaccination 

 

No vaccine ~1 in 3 people (≈ 33%) over a lifetime Common with age

 

Vaccine 

 

Shingrix ~3–10 in 1,000 (≈ 0.3–1%) V

0.2% means 2 people out of every 1,000.

ery strong protection

8 minutes ago, Bacon1 said:

Recombinant Zoster Vaccine (Shingrix): Real-World Effectiveness in the First 2 Years Post-Licensure

Hector S Izurieta et al. Clin Infect Dis. 2021.

 

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33580242/

 

 

 

Conclusions:

 

This large real-world observational study of the effectiveness of Shingrix demonstrates the benefit of completing the 2-dose regimen. Second doses administered beyond the recommended 6 months did not impair effectiveness. Our effectiveness estimates were lower than the clinical trials estimates, likely due to differences in outcome specificity.-

 

Vaccine Chance of shingles after vaccination 

 

No vaccine ~1 in 3 people (≈ 33%) over a lifetime Common with age

 

Vaccine 

 

Shingrix ~3–10 in 1,000 (≈ 0.3–1%) V

0.2% means 2 people out of every 1,000.

very strong protection

My take is that there are no diseases. Illnesses are expressed as symptoms and are a natural body development.

 

Taking a vaxx to prevent the body ridding itself of stuff it don't want, is folly in the extreme, to me.

 

This is another example of the $$$$$ put into a 'Germ Theory' based project. Better to research how the body works with nature as it does; IMO.

 

Nature has the answers; if one cares to look.

7 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Nature has the answers; if one cares to look.

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Sir! I am not giving medical advice. Just suggesting that to reduce the aggravation of a rash; Witch Hazel is available. And is pretty effective. However! Witch Hazel is no cure.

 

IMO it is best to let the symptoms to run their course. Where is the sense in putting more poisons into the body to cure something that was almost certainly caused by one in the first place?

 

In today's world nature is often neglected. The fundamental truth of nature is that we are an integral part of it. The food we eat comes from the earth. Due to various factors (see my topics on food) our food is often not as nutritious as it should be. Sometimes lacking in essential minerals for instance. If these minerals are not present and the body is insulted with a medicine, or a toxin, it could be that it has not got the tools to fight it off in a way that one wouldn't even notice. 

 

IMO, 'shingles' is the result of toxicity coupled with a poor body defence. A defence that is lacks nutrients, over the course of time, to keep the body in balance.

 

Nature! So often taken for granted, but is the key to good health.

Chicken pox then later - sometimes decades later - Shingles . What's the connection Mr Nature. 

43 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Taking a vaxx to prevent the body ridding itself of stuff it don't want, is folly in the extreme, to me

 

Yes, all the  + 4000 Virologists & all the related medical personnel around the world, are wrong.

 

However, a "Midwestern doctor" who often has been struck off etc, is right.

26 minutes ago, Bacon1 said:

 

Yes, all the  + 4000 Virologists & all the related medical personnel around the world, are wrong.

 

However, a "Midwestern doctor" who often has been struck off etc, is right.

Yup! Got it in one. They are wrong. Completely wrong. Virology is a make-believe pursuit. Simply nonsense. Held together by the $$$$. Have only to take a look at the history. Modern virology started in 1954. It was dead on its feet until the Enders' experiments.

 

I don't know much about the 'Midwestern doctor', only that he is a welcome messenger in a fraud-hoax $$$$ compromised disgrace of a Health system.

 

Why was he struck off? Because he questioned established nonsense?

 

My health system would be so simple. The white-coats make it so complicated. And for a reason they do that. $.

 

Nature gives us the tools to live a good healthy life. Man gives us the toxicity. Let's hear it for the unsung hero; nature.

39 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Chicken pox then later - sometimes decades later - Shingles . What's the connection Mr Nature. 

The two you mentioned are not diseases Sir.

 

My considered opinion (I have not researched this particularly) is that the body has been subjected to a build of of toxic entities, or a medical intervention, and rids itself of the stuff it don't want. Hence the symptoms of that elimination. Maybe the body keeps a bit back because of medicine taken to suppress the first round of symptions. And what happens? It rears it ugly - although necessary - head some time later. Often giving much more pronounced symptoms.

 

To directly answer your question. My reckoning is that the later set of symptoms (shingles) were the result of medicine years earlier (chicken pox?).

 

Love nature. It will never forsake you.

3 hours ago, KhaoHom said:

 

You do no such thing. You're links always point to sketchy purpose built sites set up to support the pro covid narrative. I've personally checked many

 

I'll never take another vaccine again. I don't know what's worse the vax or the lies that have surrounded it for years. 

 

Up to 60k dead attributable to clot shot. Verifiable. Per Grok. Potentially far higher 

 

Only the elderly and infirm will trust it and that's bc they have no alternative.

 

I was forced to get AZ shot. I would have refused any mRNA shot and walked from my job. The efficacy said to be marginal and the shot withdrawn from market 

 

Riding mass transit, working with large groups in close quarters many of which developed COVID - I did not. My wife similar situation - did not.

 

We also must acknowledge this virus was manufactured in a Chinese lab with US government approval and *oversight*. It was genetically manipulated. The virus was set loose upon the world. That's just fact. 

"I'll never take another vaccine again. I don't know what's worse the vax or the lies that have surrounded it for years". 

 

I for one, and I'm sure many, many others on AN am grateful for the posts from TallGuyJohninBKK because he cuts through the cr@p of a few well known posters who really don't have any facts to support their arguments.

I have had a total of 14 vaccinations in my lifetime, some of which were mandatory for overseas work positions, and others which were vaccinations in childhood, including polio, which I witnessed first hand along with the havoc and pain it brought with it.

I've just gotten over a bout of Covid 19, but fortunately I'd had three jabs so this bout was over and done with in three to four days. If a new strain of Covid 19 emerges, then I will get a booster shot to counteract that – – no problems, no side effects, no hassle and peace of mind.

Keep up your good work TallGuyJohninBKK and thank you for your contribution to date.
 

 

 

15 minutes ago, xylophone said:

"I'll never take another vaccine again. I don't know what's worse the vax or the lies that have surrounded it for years". 

 

I for one, and I'm sure many, many others on AN am grateful for the posts from TallGuyJohninBKK because he cuts through the cr@p of a few well known posters who really don't have any facts to support their arguments.

I have had a total of 14 vaccinations in my lifetime, some of which were mandatory for overseas work positions, and others which were vaccinations in childhood, including polio, which I witnessed first hand along with the havoc and pain it brought with it.

I've just gotten over a bout of Covid 19, but fortunately I'd had three jabs so this bout was over and done with in three to four days. If a new strain of Covid 19 emerges, then I will get a booster shot to counteract that – – no problems, no side effects, no hassle and peace of mind.

Keep up your good work TallGuyJohninBKK and thank you for your contribution to date.

 

 

What a sad post...

"I've just gotten over a bout of Covid 19, but fortunately I'd had three jabs so this bout was over and done with in three to four days. If a new strain of Covid 19 emerges, then I will get a booster shot to counteract that..." 

How do you know that It would have been worse if you hadn't taken your 'protective' Covid-shots?  

Several posters on this sub-forum have written posts - including myself - that they did not succumb to the Covid-vax scam and did not catch Covid (or if we did, we didn't even notice it). 

But of course that will be dismissed as 'anecdotal evidence' as all the bought so-called experts keep on pushing that everybody should keep up-to-date with all their vaccines.  From those that did experience first-hand some major adverse effects of those wonder-shots that they were coerced into taking, many vowed to never take a vaccine anymore.  

 

 

The public health agencies have been very clear on this point in recent times with the evolution of the COVID virus -- COVID vaccines' main purpose is to prevent people from becoming seriously ill from COVID or worse... And they do quite a good job in achieving that goal.

 

There also is a lesser side benefit of reducing the likelihood a vaccinated person will have any symptomatic responses to the virus. But that benefit and protection is at lower rates, and a benefit that wanes more over time post vaccination.

 

Anti-vaxers will, and long have, attempted to portray the fact that vaccinated people can still contract COVID with mild symptoms as a failure of the vaccines. But doctors and public health officials will tell you that the vaccines, now 5 years into the pandemic, are performing as intended -- significantly reducing the odds a vaccinated person will become seriously ill or worse.

 

Xylophone's comment above is testament to the vaccines doing exactly what they have been principally intended to do:

 

Quote

 

I've just gotten over a bout of Covid 19, but fortunately I'd had three jabs so this bout was over and done with in three to four days. If a new strain of Covid 19 emerges, then I will get a booster shot to counteract that – – no problems, no side effects, no hassle and peace of mind.

 

 

Per the U.S. CDC:

Benefits of Getting Vaccinated

June 11, 2025

...

• "The COVID-19 vaccine helps protect you from severe illness, hospitalization, and death."  [emphasis added]

...

COVID-19 vaccines protect your health

"COVID-19 continues to cause millions of illnesses, hundreds of thousands of hospitalizations, and tens of thousands of deaths each year in the United States.12 It was the 10th leading cause of death in 2023.

...

"COVID-19 vaccines:

Reduce your risk for critical illness (admission to intensive care unit or death)

...

Reduce your risk of being hospitalized

...

Reduce your risk of getting sick and needing to go to urgent care or the emergency department

...

Reduce your risk for Long COVID"

 

https://www.cdc.gov/covid/vaccines/benefits.html

 

Early on in the pandemic, the vaccines actually outperformed what they were intended to do, actually preventing infection at very high levels.... and that led to a lot of publicity and at-times over-inflated political comment on that fact, which was generally accurate at the outset, but proved less so as the pandemic wore on and the virus repeatedly mutated... But again, none of that changed what the original purpose and target of the COVID vaccines was:

 

"The original stated purpose of COVID-19 vaccines, as developed and authorized in 2020 and 2021, was to prevent severe illness, hospitalization, and death from the SARS-CoV-2 virus. By doing so, public health officials aimed to control the pandemic and reduce pressure on healthcare systems."

 

--AI assisted

 

More on the COVID-19 MRNA vaccine. Y'all doomed. 

 

 

 

9 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

there was no virus what-so-ever. Either emerging fron a pangolin scale, a bat foot, or engineered in a money laundering lab (one of many throughout the world; read Ukraine).

 

Yes, just a few of the lies 

 

When I first heard of the bat bs I knew the entire thing was a lie. I've done a lot of traveling and know what utmost certainty that peasants aren't going to drag a couple cages of bats across China to sell as food or curiosity. I've eaten bats in Cambodia and Myanmar and know how they manage the critters. 

 

Face it. The entire thing, the whole thing was a massive lie and cover-up. If you jumped on the bandwagon you made money. 

 

6 hours ago, Bacon1 said:

Yes, all the  + 4000 Virologists & all the related medical personnel around the world, are wrong.

However, a "Midwestern doctor" who often has been struck off etc, is right.

 

Your wrote > a "Midwestern doctor" who often has been struck off

Struck off what exactly? 

'A Midwestern doctor' did choose that anonymous name for his very first substack posting.  He didn't use his real name as he is still a practicing MD and didn't want to run the risk of having his license to practice medicine removed.  In a short time his very well-researched but inconvenient essays on current medical practices did amass a huge following (+200.000 subscribers and growing).

 

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8 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Sir! Please hear me; it is very difficult indeed, if not impossible, to pass an illness from a sick person to a health one.

And this is where I stopped reading your post.

1 hour ago, KannikaP said:

And this is where I stopped reading your post.

But it's true Sir.

 

Is the US military telling porkies?

2 hours ago, KhaoHom said:

More on the COVID-19 MRNA vaccine. Y'all doomed. 

 

 

 

 

 

You guys, for some unfathomable reason, really like to quote and post on doctors who have had their medical licenses and/or medical board certification stripped from them because of their prolific posting of COVID and anti-vax misinformation:

 

Peter McCullough:

 

" From the beginnings of the COVID-19 pandemic, McCullough has promoted misinformation and conspiracy theories about COVID-19, its treatments, and mRNA vaccines.

...

In October 2022, the American Board of Internal Medicine (ABIM) recommended that McCullough's board certifications be revoked due to his promotion of misinformation about COVID-19 vaccines,^[7][8] and by January 2025, the ABIM had revoked both of his certifications."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_A._McCullough

 

 

 

Had chickenpox as a kid, no probs.

70 now, not had shingles, don't see the need for the vaccine.

11 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Had chickenpox as a kid, no probs.

 

At the very least, it is extremely unpleasant and irritating isn't it? 

 

11 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

 

You guys, for some unfathomable reason, really like to quote and post on doctors who have had their medical licenses and/or medical board certification stripped from them because of their prolific posting of COVID and anti-vax misinformation:

 

Peter McCullough:

 

" From the beginnings of the COVID-19 pandemic, McCullough has promoted misinformation and conspiracy theories about COVID-19, its treatments, and mRNA vaccines.

...

In October 2022, the American Board of Internal Medicine (ABIM) recommended that McCullough's board certifications be revoked due to his promotion of misinformation about COVID-19 vaccines,^[7][8] and by January 2025, the ABIM had revoked both of his certifications."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_A._McCullough

 

 

 

 

Because the entire industry has been corrupted by money and big pharma even JAMA and John's Hopkins TOTALLY compromised.

 

You cannot trust mainstream medicine AT ALL and certainly we cannot trust you ffs

 

Revoked during the height of the Scamdemic 

 

He's going to make millions of suing tf out of the phony medical 💰💰establishment 

 

I trust Dr McCullough with my life more than I'd trust you to advise me crossing the street 

 

RFK as well

 

That clip is everywhere on X now

 

Also, I was mistaken about the death toll. It's far far greater. That's what I get for trusting AI. Watch below ..Rogan clip

 

450k to 650k DEAD bc these fking mRNA shots!!

 

And still Aseannow let's this joker post his rubbish here.

 

 

https://x.com/its_The_Dr/status/1982198836975030541?t=zrTeFfnKdkQdKyeH-lJgSQ&s=19

 

 

 

 

12 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

But it's true Sir.

 

Is the US military telling porkies?

Quite possibly.

11 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

At the very least, it is extremely unpleasant and irritating isn't it? 

 

Nowt a bit of calamine lotion didn't fix.

3 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

Quite possibly.

The US Navy Medical Corp alone, did over 100 experiments in the 1920s. They documented them all. 

 

Not the only place to go for the references, but an OK one; Dr Daniel Roytas

 

https://www.humanley.com

13 hours ago, KhaoHom said:

You cannot trust mainstream medicine AT ALL and certainly we cannot trust you ffs

 

No, it's not black and white.

Mainstream medicine bad, doctors bad, mRNA bad.

 

Bill Maher did not take the Covid vaccine, but he's a fan of mRNA technology as it appears it will have many life-saving applications. 

 

 

11 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

No, it's not black and white.

Mainstream medicine bad, doctors bad, mRNA bad.

 

Bill Maher did not take the Covid vaccine, but he's a fan of mRNA technology as it appears it will have many life-saving applications. 

 

 

 

Anyone refusing to take the Covid-vaccine is by definition a dangerous, mis-informed, Anti-Vaxxer. 

Refute anything such loons are saying, and only trust the narrative and grand promises when it comes from Big Pharma.  

19 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Anyone refusing to take the Covid-vaccine is by definition a dangerous, mis-informed, Anti-Vaxxer. 

Refute anything such loons are saying, and only trust the narrative and grand promises when it comes from Big Pharma.  

Load of rubbish

 

Some of use cannot take -vaccines, nothing to do with being a Anti-Vaxxer.

 

Last vaccine was told was different and safe for me was part 1 of the Shingles Vaccine = 5 night in Hospital and told do NO take part 2, likewise have never had the Covid Vaccine..

As a child spend a lot of time in Hospital, back then kid vaccines were given 1 by 1

as I go older was told do not have any Vaccines. odd times at school was forced to have some vaccine = hospital.  later in life had same results. 2020 told a few jab was 100% safe, = 3 years of suffering so cannot even have a flue jab.

I am not alone there are others even here that cannot have any vaccine

Wow!  Fox News of all places is now reporting pro-vaccine news regarding the latest research on the Shingles vaccine. Will wonders never cease!  🙂

 

Shingles vaccine connected to ‘exciting’ health benefits in large study

"The shingles vaccine is intended to prevent shingles, a painful rash caused by the reactivation of the varicella-zoster virus, also known as herpes zoster — but a new study suggests that it could have major secondary benefits.

 

Researchers at Case Western Reserve University have identified a potential link between the shingles vaccine and a reduced risk of developing vascular dementia.

 

The vaccine has also been associated with a significant decreased risk of cardiovascular events and death in people 50 and older."

 

(more)

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/shingles-vaccine-connected-to-exciting-health-benefits-in-large-study/ar-AA1Pgp1d

 

 

3 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Wow!  Fox News of all places is now reporting pro-vaccine news regarding the latest research on the Shingles vaccine. Will wonders never cease!  🙂

 

Shingles vaccine connected to ‘exciting’ health benefits in large study

"The shingles vaccine is intended to prevent shingles, a painful rash caused by the reactivation of the varicella-zoster virus, also known as herpes zoster — but a new study suggests that it could have major secondary benefits.

 

Researchers at Case Western Reserve University have identified a potential link between the shingles vaccine and a reduced risk of developing vascular dementia.

 

The vaccine has also been associated with a significant decreased risk of cardiovascular events and death in people 50 and older."

 

(more)

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/shingles-vaccine-connected-to-exciting-health-benefits-in-large-study/ar-AA1Pgp1d

 

 

 

Fox News are pro-vax, they promoted the Covid vaccine heavily and had their entire staff jabbed. Hannity was literally a Pharma sales rep.