1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

The hardest thing to find in life is a decent, compatible partner. Toxic people abound so it's best to avoid them.

I've been 'lucky' in that regard, that I didn't get trapped. Though I certainly put myself through the wringer and made it a learning experience 😊

Most men are scared of women, even though they might pretend otherwise. I certainly was. Reason? Men were reasonable. Predictable even. We had rules that in the main, we stuck to. A code.

Women? Anything goes. No rules. Once you understand that, you learn how to deal with them.

You can even harness their energy.

When you have a woman who loves you, woe betide anyone who tries to harm you.

People think it's just the other way around. I am usually the nice one and I give them to chance to deal with me firstly.

Decided to edit, since anyone can see this section these days 😉

2 hours ago, mangkut70 said:

You are much better off if you don’t care, what she is doing.

Don’t be a nagging annoying controlling nuisance.😉

Well, after she refused to do a call yesterday I decided to go colder. Texts were delayed and ultra short. This had the net result that she was chasing me."What are you doing?" "What are you doing" Me: "Nothing. And you?" She : "Waiting for you".

So when night came and we texted I thought the mood was right to raise my visit to Chonburi. I said once again that I wanted to come Chonburi.

She replied with a non-enthused "Up to you". I again asked for a Google maps screenshot so i know where she is.

Then she replied "But I work" Me "You got Job". She "Yes, I start tomorrow". Me "Where?" She: "in a cafe".

When I asked the name of the cafe, she said she didn't remember.

Then she said "Im' still very sad about what you did to me. I'm very disappointed.I came to see you and then you do this to me. I've known for a long time you talked to other girls. But you never admitted it. i can't accept it."

I obviously assured I'd never do it again, we can build a new rel based on trust and forgive each other's mistakes.

But she just said "No" "No" No", repeatedly. In the end she said "I want to stop." "I want to break up". I said I did not want to break up.

I asked her if she was with another guy. She said "No. I'm not". I asked if she was writing with another guy. Again "No. I'm not".

I said "I'm not with another girl either. So why are we breaking up"?

She replied "I'm sad".

11 minutes ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

I've been 'lucky' in that regard, that I didn't get trapped. Though I certainly put myself through the wringer and made it a learning experience 😊

Most men are scared of women, even though they might pretend otherwise. I certainly was. Reason? Men were reasonable. Predictable even. We had rules that in the main, we stuck to. A code.

Women? Anything goes. No rules. Once you understand that, you learn how to deal with them.

You can even harness their energy. There were times, in a business environment where there was some disagreement or confusion and I would tell them that they could either deal with me or my woman. An example, at an airport, at Christmas, where the airline, Gulf Air, had overbooked the flight and bumped me off. I spoke to the airport manager of the airline and he was quite dismissive. After a while I told him that he could either deal with me or deal with my woman. He didn't listen, so I called her and handed him the phone. I could see him literally sinking in his seat and after the lambasting that he received, he got up and escorted me whilst wheeling my luggage, to the First Class check-in of Thai Airways and put me on a direct flight.

When you have a woman who loves you, woe betide anyone who tries to harm you.

People think it's just the other way around. I am usually the nice one and I give them to chance to deal with me firstly.

I was love bombed by a covert narcissist, who's continuing that behavior still with anyone she's around. I didn't see how she really was until I moved here. Now I'm working to correct that mistake by planning to move back home with my daughter. If there wasn't a daughter involved, I would have been long gone, but her future is the most important thing now.

Attraction does many in, which is why taking as long as possible to really get to know someone in all moods is the best course. There are a lot more women in the world that are better choices than many men understand. And some are much better choices as a partner. You only have one life, and if you're a decent man, you deserve decent. Always best to learn someone before you go full in and waste years of your life. A good woman will back you in any situation. Loyalty is mandatory.

14 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Not really.

It would be time for that if she were terrorizing me, making my life worse and having a major negative impact on my life.

However, for now she is texting, saying we should meet in BKK and go to Phuket in late February, whilst not calling much, not texting much and not sending photos and videos. I can handle that.

Well, I have to admire you for your effort so far, and good luck in the future.

What comes to mins is how we desire what we cant have, but fail to appreciate whats in our reach.

You live in Chiang Mai, whats wrong with women from Chiang Mai? You act like an addict right now and cant get her out of your head, cant think clearly obviously

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

Well, after she refused to do a call yesterday I decided to go colder. Texts were delayed and ultra short. This had the net result that she was chasing me."What are you doing?" "What are you doing" Me: "Nothing. And you?" She : "Waiting for you".

So when night came and we texted I thought the mood was right to raise my visit to Chonburi. I said once again that I wanted to come Chonburi.

She replied with a non-enthused "Up to you". I again asked for a Google maps screenshot so i know where she is.

Then she replied "But I work" Me "You got Job". She "Yes, I start tomorrow". Me "Where?" She: "in a cafe".

When I asked the name of the cafe, she said she didn't remember.

Then she said "Im' still very sad about what you did to me. I'm very disappointed.I came to see you and then you do this to me. I've known for a long time you talked to other girls. But you never admitted it. i can't accept it."

I obviously assured I'd never do it again, we can build a new rel based on trust and forgive each other's mistakes.

But she just said "No" "No" No", repeatedly. In the end she said "I want to stop." "I want to break up". I said I did not want to break up.

I asked her if she was with another guy. She said "No. I'm not". I asked if she was writing with another guy. Again "No. I'm not".

I said "I'm not with another girl either. So why are we breaking up"?

She replied "I'm sad".

As we've all said before, you have to make a choice. It's either a decent woman or a pay to play girl. You already have all the answers in your own words, plus advice from outsiders who have been there who see things unbiased. Realizing what your motives are and understanding what you really want is first.

Secondly is finding someone that matches those ideals. A decent woman will not play games. ignore you or give you doubts. Girls in their 20's, again, are fickle at best. They don't know what they want nor how to get it, besides copying the same ploys her friends have done before her. Then it's all about how much you can pay, and that makes it temporary, unless you're okay with it.There are decent women here but it surely takes a lot of time to find them, and looking that young will only get you trouble.

Not wanting to video call is a red flag, as is ghosting and not answering her phone. If you're a priority, she will make you one. Why play these games when there are thousands here? We all can see what she's doing, at least by your words alone, and it's blatantly fishy, and not worth the time. You also, again, have to look at your own behavior. if you want one woman, you don't play around with a few. Thinking they don't know is foolish. Even the young ones have a sixth sense.

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I was love bombed by a covert narcissist, who's continuing that behavior still with anyone she's around. I didn't see how she really was until I moved here. Now I'm working to correct that mistake by planning to move back home with my daughter. If there wasn't a daughter involved, I would have been long gone, but her future is the most important thing now.

Attraction does many in, which is why taking as long as possible to really get to know someone in all moods is the best course. There are a lot more women in the world that are better choices than many men understand. And some are much better choices as a partner. You only have one life, and if you're a decent man, you deserve decent. Always best to learn someone before you go full in and waste years of your life. A good woman will back you in any situation. Loyalty is mandatory.

A lot of men don't understand that women are predators too...even more vicious than any man and more cunning than most.

It's easy to spot the mentally weak and gullible. I choose to not ever take advantage of that. My choice. Preferring to do the best and in return accept only the best. No lies. No deceit.

Cameroni is getting what he gives out.

7 minutes ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

Cameroni is getting what he gives out.

That pretty much sums it up for the most, not only when it comes to women, but in life in general

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

Then she replied "But I work" Me "You got Job". She "Yes, I start tomorrow". Me "Where?" She: "in a cafe".

There an element of certainty that this 'cafe' - serves beer, has a lot of neon and a lot of waitresses in a skimpy uniform.... Its going to be forum golf when Cam finally digs through to the truth and Miss Platypus tells him... 'she's helping her friend out as 'cashier'...

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

When I asked the name of the cafe, she said she didn't remember.

What are the odds the name of this cafe has the word 'pu$$y' in it ???

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

When I asked the name of the cafe, she said she didn't remember.

Pino Latte

On my thing, I'm loving the emotional intensity and the overall quality of the person.

But unless Jesus weighs in and gives the go-ahead to this sweet Lord-lover to take off her dress, I have put a deadline clock on it, that I absolutely will stick too.

We are in the same social circle, so I would aim for a soft landing for her.

And Cameroni has been super-helpful in confirming that this is the way.

Any relationship issue that lasts longer than 30 days is not fixable. It's either live with it or run.

5 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

. It's either a decent woman or a pay to play girl.

You really talk some nonsense. She is a decent woman. She's not a "pay to play girl". If she were, instead of breaking up she would have said "Send me 30000 and we're good and I come back".

She didn't. She said "I'm very sad. I came to you and you do this to me. I knew for a long time you were talking to other girls. You never admitted it. I can't accept it".

It was me who wasn't decent. Not her. When I checked her phone she didn't talk to anyone. I talked to the ex almost ever day. I wasn't acting decently. She was.

5 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Not wanting to video call is a red flag, as is ghosting and not answering her phone. If you're a priority, she will make you one.

I wasn't a priority because she saw my phone, that I talked to a lot of other girls while she was with me. She is still very hurt, sad and angry because she took photos of those convos, and probably reads them every night. It's a problem I caused. Not her.

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

You really talk some nonsense. She is a decent woman. She's not a "pay to play girl". If she were, instead of breaking up she would have said "Send me 30000 and we're good and I come back".

She didn't. She said "I'm very sad. I came to you and you do this to me. I knew for a long time you were talking to other girls. You never admitted it. I can't accept it".

It was me who wasn't decent. Not her. When I checked her phone she didn't talk to anynoe. I talked to the ex almost ever day. I wasn't acting decently. She was.

Take the blinders off bro. You are the only one who does not see the truth.

15 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

You really talk some nonsense. She is a decent woman. She's not a "pay to play girl". If she were, instead of breaking up she would have said "Send me 30000 and we're good and I come back".

She didn't. She said "I'm very sad. I came to you and you do this to me. I knew for a long time you were talking to other girls. You never admitted it. I can't accept it".

It was me who wasn't decent. Not her. When I checked her phone she didn't talk to anyone. I talked to the ex almost ever day. I wasn't acting decently. She was.

I wasn't a priority because she saw my phone, that I talked to a lot of other girls while she was with me. She is still very hurt, sad and angry because she took photos of those convos, and probably reads them every night. It's a problem I caused. Not her.

So what is she doing now and why is she offering to meet you after Feb 20th if she is so sad? You are being played....because you are a player.

This kind of woman would not even get her foot in the door of someone like myself, but you invite the devil in because.... you are not that nice yourself.

Decent women don't have ridiculous surgery performed on their face and body, paid for by a man, and then go ahead to sell themselves on the Internet, proclaiming that they like sex and money. Are you completely bereft of any kind of moral compass?

15 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

You really talk some nonsense. She is a decent woman. She's not a "pay to play girl". If she were, instead of breaking up she would have said "Send me 30000 and we're good and I come back".

She didn't. She said "I'm very sad. I came to you and you do this to me. I knew for a long time you were talking to other girls. You never admitted it. I can't accept it".

It was me who wasn't decent. Not her. When I checked her phone she didn't talk to anyone. I talked to the ex almost ever day. I wasn't acting decently. She was.

I wasn't a priority because she saw my phone, that I talked to a lot of other girls while she was with me. She is still very hurt, sad and angry because she took photos of those convos, and probably reads them every night. It's a problem I caused. Not her.

I think when she found you talking to another woman, that was like manna from heaven for her, as it gave her an excuse to get all pouty and to not call and not see you. It was silly but not a big deal as you didn't get caught actually doing something.

Do you really want to spend the next 6 weeks thinking about what she's up to while you start looking at expensive birthday presents for the Phuket trip. No. You must be having a laugh if you are willing to be treated like this.

2 minutes ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

So what is she doing now and why is she offering to meet you after Feb 20th if she is so sad?

She loves me. This love for me had her oscillating between withdrawing and trying to continue our relationship. That explains why, despite KNOWING how I talked to the ex she still offered to come back to CM and then to go to Phuket with me on 20 February. However, then later, as she again reads the screenshots of my betrayal, now documented on dozens of photos, the cold rage rises within her again, how she deserves better, and the avoidant fear of being with a man she can never trust who'll hurt her made her end it.

She's working in a cafe today, started her first day of work. So she's probably under pressure and greatly distracted by her new work.

5 minutes ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

You are being played....because you are a player.

How am I being played? She ended it. No games. Just straight up "I want to break up".

All I can add is that it is absolutely not a surprise to me that you and @Prubangboy hooked up. Enough said...

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

She loves me. This love for me had her oscillating between withdrawing and trying to continue our relationship. That explains why, despite KNOWING how I talked to the ex she still offered to come back to CM and then to go to Phuket with me on 20 February. However, then later, as she again reads the screenshots of my betrayal, now documented on dozens of photos, the cold rage rises within her again, how she deserves better, and the avoidant fear of being with a man she can never trust who'll hurt her made her end it.

She's working in a cafe today, started her first day of work. So she's probably under pressure and greatly distracted by her new work.

How am I being played? She ended it. No games. Just straight up "I want to break up".

Idiocy...

4 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

It was silly but not a big deal as you didn't get caught actually doing something.

Suppose you were with a girl you like a lot, you invested a lot, did a lot for her. Then you find her phone unlocked and you see she was texting her ex every day, asking if they will come to your city. Would you not be thoroughly enraged? Filled with fear if this person is trustworthy? I understand her anger and fear.

I also thought it was not that much, as I didn't have sex with the ex, especially since she kind of did the same, albeit openly, asking me if she can call her ex when she was told he had a car accident, and even talked to him in my house when he called, albeit not knowing the number was his.

One could make an argument that's a reason not pursue this further, since if she really did love you, she could move past this, but she's choosing not to. This need not be a full rel killer, but she's making it one.

5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

She's working in a cafe today, started her first day of work. So she's probably under pressure and greatly distracted by her new work.

Cafe/Bar Beer, same thing as long as you can get food. Right in the heart of Pattaya, Chonburi province. Distracted by trying to figure out which punter has the bucks. Good luck with that.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

Suppose you were with a girl you like a lot, you invested a lot, did a lot for her. Then you find her phone unlocked and you see she was texting her ex every day, asking if they will come to your city. Would you not be thoroughly enraged? Filled with fear if this person is trustworthy? I understand her anger and fear.

I also thought it was not that much, as I didn't have sex with the ex, especially since she kind of did the same, albeit openly, asking me if she can call her ex when she was told he had a car accident, and even talked to him in my house when he called, albeit not knowing the number was his.

One could make an argument that's a reason not pursue this further, since if she really did love you, she could move past this, but she's choosing not to. This need not be a full rel killer, but she's making it one.

Then why agree to meet you later, after her gig is up? What's her salary at the 'cafe'? She sells sex. 100%.

She's just keeping you on the hook, to see how things pan out by the end of the high season. As soon as your line of questioning gets close to the truth, the "I want to break up" tactic comes out. Distraction.

She texted me again!

It's not over!

It's not over.

I KNEW she would!!!

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

She texted me again!

It's not over!

It's not over.

I KNEW she would!!!

She belongs in the trash...😊

7 minutes ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

She belongs in the trash...😊

What are you talking about, she did nothing wrong. I was the one who acted wrong.

32 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

You really talk some nonsense. She is a decent woman. She's not a "pay to play girl". If she were, instead of breaking up she would have said "Send me 30000 and we're good and I come back".

She didn't. She said "I'm very sad. I came to you and you do this to me. I knew for a long time you were talking to other girls. You never admitted it. I can't accept it".

It was me who wasn't decent. Not her. When I checked her phone she didn't talk to anyone. I talked to the ex almost ever day. I wasn't acting decently. She was.

I wasn't a priority because she saw my phone, that I talked to a lot of other girls while she was with me. She is still very hurt, sad and angry because she took photos of those convos, and probably reads them every night. It's a problem I caused. Not her.

I've actually never talked nonsense. I don't make opinions but go by facts or what others say and make a judgement from that. Others here all have said the same things but you keep coming back with what looks like excuses for behavior. We're all going by what you've said, as we've all been there and aren't connected, unbiased, so you can hear what others think. This is why you came here, for other's thoughts.

Remember what I just said. You have to look at your own motives and then decide what's best for you. Girls play games, especially younger ones, and from again, what you said, they are hiding something when they don't answer phones, won't video chat, and look for money. There's those reasons why a girl disappears then comes back. Yes, she might just want an ATM, and looking for the best deal, or she might be with others while not around you. No one knows the truth.

If you're not decent, then it's best to look for P4P, as they're already in the game and know what's coming. It's not a good thing to take advantage of a decent woman if that's not what you're looking for. If you want to play, and want a long term, just as others have said, you have to have the cash to burn. More than the competition, for a girl to stay.

I didn't say this particular girl was a P4P. She's obviously hiding things, and others have also made that opinion. They all want money, but that doesn't mean she's a P4P, but possibly just looking for an ATM man. You and all of us don't yet know her motives besides that. Looking for the best deal is what it seems. You have no idea what she's doing when you're not with her, and that's why others made their judgements. All I'm saying is to ask yourself what you want, then go from there.

16 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

What are you talking about, she did nothing wrong. I was the one who acted wrong.

I don't think any of the protagonists deserve to have a decent woman nor a decent man alongside. You deserve each other 😊

16 hours ago, mangkut70 said:

Fair enough. It’s normal that people judge something primarily from their own experience.

And it's true - most guys judge Thai girls based on the girls they meet : visiting Thailand as middle-aged men and exclusively meeting girls at bars or similar tourist-related venues.

Of course, my opinion is also mostly based on my own experiences. And my repeated experience was that Asian girls – once they focus on you – are very determined and competitive, to say the least. But maybe that was just the result of a certain personality I am attracted to? So, I got the same result because I ended up talking to similar girls?

Anyway, I was lucky enough to come to Asia in my late twenties, met many people through work, at receptions or functions. (Hardly any Thais around, but a good mix of Asia and SEA.) Happy on-and-off single life for a decade. Almost all of the girls I got involved with at that time had well-paying jobs and there was no big age gap. Some students in the mix as well. Quite demanding and time-consuming though. But many sweet memories and a valued educational period.

Also travelled a lot in the region and became more and more acquainted with p4p options. Also there I’ve met several girls with lovely personalities resulting in more or less exclusive relationships. Mostly good and rewarding experiences (hopefully mutual). And again — once they focused on me – they were very determined.

So that’s just the way I experienced it – hence my opinion about the Phuket girl and Cameroni: If she were really interested, she would already hang her dresses in his wardrobe and put little holes in condoms.

Cheers and thanks for not taking my straight forward earlier reply in a negative way.

That is more or less my experience of meeting Asian women but I met them while I was at university in England, they had come to study, but also having had many girlfriends in my twenties from Europe and England I did not find Asia women to be particularly clingy as in wanting to move in etc compared to the Europeans, I found it came down to the girls individual personality rather than nationality and some were more focused/pushy than others.

I did end up marrying a Thai girl who was one year younger than me, we met while she was in university in England, her English was good to start with and vastly improved during her studies.

After being together for three years I went to Thailand for the first time and we were married and had the reception at the Dusit Thani Hotel in Bangkok.

We were pictured in the Bangkok Post in the culture section as one of her uncles gave a speech at the hotel and was an ex vice prime minister of Thailand, I am not saying all of this to show off, I just want to state that not all Thai women are out there for money etc as many so many people on this blog claim over many years as they are the only sort of people they get to meet, they never get to meet the very many educated self financing Thai women.

She got a visa to come and stay in the UK which I think took one day and then five years later a British passport.

She worked in the UK from her point of arrival, at one time for Thai Airways in London where we lived.

I have also come across hundreds of young Phuket-Isaan-girl types when out and about with visiting friends from the UK, I have had a laugh chatting to them etc while supping a few beers but I would never take them seriously.

I had a friend who owned a Thai restaurant in Phuket for twenty years who had friends who owned Thai girly bars. He used to tell me all sorts of stories where the girls would 'love' about three or four guys at the same time and would juggle them each time the came back to visit, sometimes they overlapped so of course the story was the girl had gone back home to Isaan to see the sick mother and father etc.

No where in the world would a 24 years old woman fancy a old man, it is just not natural, many are good at pretending they do though, I have never seen a good looking 24 year old with a poor old man. 😃

Cameroni's situation seems straight forward to me, she could within two seconds send her current whereabouts via a smartphone but pretends that the system is down, what nonsense, she is obviously up to something negative, if he stays with her this sort of treatment will become the norm and a living hell, but then what should he expects from a woman who will only come to see him if he pays her to as he has admitted many times himself.

3 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

Cheers and thanks for not taking my straight forward earlier reply in a negative way.

That is more or less my experience of meeting Asian women but I met them while I was at university in England, they had come to study, but also having had many girlfriends in my twenties from Europe and England I did not find Asia women to be particularly clingy as in wanting to move in etc compared to the Europeans, I found it came down to the girls individual personality rather than nationality and some were more focused/pushy than others.

I did end up marrying a Thai girl who was one year younger than me, we met while she was in university in England, her English was good to start with and vastly improved during her studies.

After being together for three years I went to Thailand for the first time and we were married and had the reception at the Dusit Thani Hotel in Bangkok.

We were pictured in the Bangkok Post in the culture section as one of her uncles gave a speech at the hotel and was an ex vice prime minister of Thailand, I am not saying all of this to show off, I just want to state that not all Thai women are out there for money etc as many so many people on this blog claim over many years as they are the only sort of people they get to meet, they never get to meet the very many educated self financing Thai women.

She got a visa to come and stay in the UK which I think took one day and then five years later a British passport.

She worked in the UK her point of arrival, at one time for Thai Airways in London where we lived.

I have also come across hundreds of Phuket-Isaan-young women types when out and about with visiting friends from the UK, I have had a laugh chatting to them etc while supping a few beers but I would never take them seriously.

I had a friends who owned a Thai restaurant in Phuket for twenty years who had friends who owned Thai girly bars. He used to tell me all sorts of stories where the girls would 'love' about three or for guys at the same time and would juggle them each time the came back to visit, sometimes they overlapped so of course the story was the girl had gone back home to Isaan to see the sick mother and father etc.

No where in the world would a 24 years old woman fancy a old man, it is just not natural, many are good at pretending they do though, I have never seen a good looking 24 year old with a poor old man. 😃

Cameroni's situation seems straight forward to me, she could within two seconds send her current whereabouts via a smartphone but pretends that the system is down, what nonsense, she is obviously up to something negative, if he stays with her this sort of treatment will become the norm and a living hell, but then what should he expects form a woman who will only come to see him if he pays her to as he has admitted many times himself.

Let's call a spade a spade...if he were a decent sort, he wouldn't be seeking out cheap sl*ts women via the Internet in the first place.

Does he imagine that her finding that he was chatting to another woman forced her into 'cafe' work?

Twenty four year old girl with extensive plastic surgery and who admitted that her favourite things were "sex and money"... Hmmm...let me think about it. 🚮

51 minutes ago, marin said:

Cafe/Bar Beer, same thing as long as you can get food. Right in the heart of Pattaya, Chonburi province. Distracted by trying to figure out which punter has the bucks. Good luck with that.

Has to be walking street or soi 6 surely.

51 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Suppose you were with a girl you like a lot, you invested a lot, did a lot for her. Then you find her phone unlocked and you see she was texting her ex every day, asking if they will come to your city. Would you not be thoroughly enraged? Filled with fear if this person is trustworthy? I understand her anger and fear.

I also thought it was not that much, as I didn't have sex with the ex, especially since she kind of did the same, albeit openly, asking me if she can call her ex when she was told he had a car accident, and even talked to him in my house when he called, albeit not knowing the number was his.

One could make an argument that's a reason not pursue this further, since if she really did love you, she could move past this, but she's choosing not to. This need not be a full rel killer, but she's making it one.

But if I recall it wasn't that she caught you secretly contacting the woman as such as you had actually given her access so she knows that you knew she might see it - so it is a bit bad but that is not sufficient for her to have a free pass or hall pass, if you will, to do what she likes for 6 weeks.

Sometimes you have to accept it's in the past - it won't be the same even if she comes back tomorrow - you'll always wonder what happened.

11 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

Cameroni's situation seems straight forward to me, she could within two seconds send her current whereabouts via a smartphone but pretends that the system is down, what nonsense, she is obviously up to something negative,

More likely she's still angry looking at the photos she took of my convos with the ex. Hence no calls, no location share etc. Doesn't mean she's "up to something" at all.