4 minutes ago, Hummin said:

When did you become many? Do you talk with people about me? Interesting

Well if this tread represents the grown up, good luck! To all of you

I read the comments and build up a picture of what is going on. This thread represents human nature, replete with imperfections. It brings a smile to ones face when someone who is so very clearly flawed, attempts to introduce themselves as the adult in the room.

Allow me to remind you of the concept of Janteloven.

6 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

I read the comments and build up a picture of what is going on. This thread represents human nature, replete with imperfections. It brings a smile to ones face when someone who is so very clearly flawed, attempts to introduce themselves as the adult in the room.

Allow me to remind you of the concept of Janteloven.

Should I care what you think? This tread is a clever constructed story, no sane man would share all this details, I just hope the girl is fiction to, and no real pics are shared.

4 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Should I care what you think? This tread is a clever constructed story, no sane man would share all this details, I just hope the girl is fiction to, and no real pics are shared.

I don't concern myself as to whether you care or not. That's your world. I'm just sharing my thoughts on a forum.

The girl was on TF, so the pics were real. You can choose to hope or learn to cope. Up to you.

Here, we just share thoughts with regard to what we read.

Sometimes we will agree, sometimes we will disagree. Some things will disgust, some will offend, some will shock... that's life. The only thing of which you need to learn to control, is yourself.

It doesn't matter if his story is real or not. I choose to read and choose to respond. Just like you. What difference does it make, real or not real?

To some, he might be a hero. To others, not so much 😊 It comes down to your personal perspective. One man's Troll can be another's hero. Remember that, when you are claiming to be able to see things from different sides and how rare you are.

5 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

I don't concern myself as to whether you care or not. That's your world. I'm just sharing my thoughts on a forum.

The girl was on TF, so the pics were real. You can choose to hope or learn to cope. Up to you.

Here, we just share thoughts with regard to what we read.

Sometimes we will agree, sometimes we will disagree. Some things will disgust, some will offend, some will shock... that's life. The only thing of which you need to learn to control, is yourself.

It doesn't matter if his story is real or not. I choose to read and choose to respond. Just like you. What difference does it make, real or not real?

To some, he might be a hero. To others, not so much 😊 It comes down to your personal perspective. One man's Troll can be another's hero. Remember that, when you are claiming to be able to see things from different sides and how rare you are.

Interesting you teaching me about control. Thats a good one, and you do not understand the irony in it yourself.

5 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Interesting you teaching me about control. Thats a good one, and you do not understand the irony in it yourself.

How do you know that I do not understand? You don't. You are only using it to attempt to deflect. As I wrote earlier, it's not my problem. It's your problem. You don't see me freaking out trying to get people banned, do you? Take responsibility for your own behaviour, rather than trying to judge others from a flawed perspective.

Instead you think that you are playing table tennis, when we are playing rugby.

2 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

How do you know that I do not understand? You don't. You are only using it to attempt to deflect. As I wrote earlier, it's not my problem. It's your problem. You don't see me freaking out trying to get people banned, do you? Take responsibility for your own behaviour, rather than trying to judge others from a flawed perspective.

Instead you think that you are playing table tennis, when we are playing rugby.

Do you really think Im the one gots you banned from the forum? Well you certainly are a rough though one aint you ? Sure

Just now, Hummin said:

Do you really think Im the one gots you banned from the forum? Well you certainly are a rough though one aint you ? Sure

Not a single moment of introspection... 😊

I don't need to discuss matters of moderation. I KNOW what happens. I see it with my own eyes.

'Rough' describes aptly how you've dealt with the English language in the post I have quoted.

11 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

Not a single moment of introspection... 😊

I don't need to discuss matters of moderation. I KNOW what happens. I see it with my own eyes.

'Rough' describes aptly how you've dealt with the English language in the post I have quoted.

Thats a good one, you blaim others for you being banned and making new nicks coming back and do exactly the same again and again!

Well, looks who is talking the big talk and do the walk. Amzing

Well news for you, I do not have more time for you to do the pissing contest today, so find someone else to play with.

3 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Thats a good one, you blaim others for you being banned and making new nicks coming back and do exactly the same again and again!

Well, looks who is talking the big talk and do the walk. Amzing

Well news for you, I do not have more time for you to do the pissing contest today, so find someone else to play with.

All very predictable 😊 But I KNOW 😊 Run along now.

17 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

I'd put the chance of 'her returning' to him.... on par with the chance of you having to visit an STD clinic !!! 💀

Only because you don't understand the psychology of love, Richard. She can only return to him as long as he lets her, as long as he wants her. However, in the space of 2 months Phuket Girl left him for another man, not once, but twice. Me. Whilst Pigman did undoubtedly love her dearly, when she asked him for penis photos on Valentine's day and he ultimately realised that she was not alone, that she was with a guy and both of them were laughing at his tiny gherkin pics, something must have died inside of him. Especially as I left a voice message making it clear that I was banging Phuket Girl on Valentine's day, laughing. At him. Not only did he send a text "Just stay with the clown", conceding defeat, but this text also showed something broke inside of him.

You see, love, between a man and a woman, can't exist in a vacuum, unless psycho-pathology is involved. There has to be some indication by the adored, that she also could, potentially reciprocate the love lavished. However, Phuket Girl now leaving twice, Pigman being mocked by her new lover, after he sent penis photos, this was too much for any man, Richard.

He even deleted all his posts, his penis photos. Lol. Hasn't written to this day. I just checked.

I have to say Phuket Girl was merciless with him. Imagine, getting him to pay 4000 baht for a haircut one day before she flew out to see me. He'd also just sent her 15000 baht, I checked her bank app. Youtubers say women are like cats, but that's only partially true, they are predators. And she was merciless with Pigman, and toyed with him, before she cut out his entrails.

He is defeated. He is gone. He will not return. Don't get your hopes up.

And even if, by some miracle, he would and she would go back to him, I would be happy this insanity is over and I can go back to my life. It would be much better than the 4 weeks I went through.

17 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Only because you don't understand the psychology of love, Richard. She can only return to him as long as he lets her, as long as he wants her. However, in the space of 2 months Phuket Girl left him for another man, not once, but twice. Me. Whilst Pigman did undoubtedly love her dearly, when she asked him for penis photos on Valentine's day and he ultimately realised that she was not alone, that she was with a guy and both of them were laughing at his tiny gherkin pics, something must have died inside of him. Especially as I left a voice message making it clear that I was banging Phuket Girl on Valentine's day, laughing. At him. Not only did he send a text "Just stay with the clown", conceding defeat, but this text also showed something broke inside of him.

You see, love, between a man and a woman, can't exist in a vacuum, unless psycho-pathology is involved. There has to be some indication by the adored, that she also could, potentially reciprocate the love lavished. However, Phuket Girl now leaving twice, Pigman being mocked by her new lover, after he sent penis photos, this was too much for any man, Richard.

He even deleted all his posts, his penis photos. Lol. Hasn't written to this day. I just checked.

I have to say Phuket Girl was merciless with him. Imagine, getting him to pay 4000 baht for a haircut one day before she flew out to see me. He'd also just sent her 15000 baht, I checked her bank app. Youtubers say women are like cats, but that's only partially true, they are predators. And she was merciless with Pigman, and toyed with him, before she cut out his entrails.

He is defeated. He is gone. He will not return. Don't get your hopes up.

And even if, by some miracle, he would and she would go back to him, I would be happy this insanity is over and I can go back to my life. It would be much better than the 4 weeks I went through.

You fail to recognise that falling in love with a p4p floozy is not a win, it’s self-delusion dressed up as triumph.

In a display of extreme naivety you’ve convinced yourself you’re the exception, the chosen one, the man who broke the pattern.

Wolfgang will be with someone else - perhaps better-looking than a 3 this time, and without the takoyaki lips and a face for radio - while you’ll be living in permanent low-grade paranoia looking over PG’s shoulder checking she’s not prowling for new customers every spare moment she has.

Every time you leave her alone, you’ll have that sinking feeling in your stomach - the one that reminds you the mercenary brass you’ve fallen for is moments away from spotting someone she considers a better option.

Yours is far from the victory you claim. It’s a face-plant into the depths of desperation and depravity - one that has turned you from someone mildly sympathetic - a man out of his depth into something defensive and bitter, lashing out to protect a narrative that’s visibly cracking. Your online persona has shifted from misguided to resentful, from hopeful to hostile.

You are very very far from a win.

49 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

You fail to recognise that falling in love with a p4p floozy is not a win, it’s self-delusion dressed up as triumph.

In a display of extreme naivety you’ve convinced yourself you’re the exception, the chosen one, the man who broke the pattern.

Wolfgang will be with someone else - perhaps better-looking than a 3 this time, and without the takoyaki lips and a face for radio - while you’ll be living in permanent low-grade paranoia looking over PG’s shoulder checking she’s not prowling for new customers every spare moment she has.

Every time you leave her alone, you’ll have that sinking feeling in your stomach - the one that reminds you the mercenary brass you’ve fallen for is moments away from spotting someone she considers a better option.

Yours is far from the victory you claim. It’s a face-plant into the depths of desperation and depravity - one that has turned you from someone mildly sympathetic - a man out of his depth into something defensive and bitter, lashing out to protect a narrative that’s visibly cracking. Your online persona has shifted from misguided to resentful, from hopeful to hostile.

You are very very far from a win.

You persist in calling Phuket girl a "P4P floozy". Others have called her a prostitute. In reality she and pigman were writing for 2 full years before they met in Phuket 6 months ago. She is not a P4P girl or a prostitute, she enters into real relationships with guys that last years and months. She does not ask for money for a one-off sex act. She is not a sex worker of any kind. Yes, she asks for money, as girlfriends do. But your analysis of "P4P" and others' of "prostitute" and such, is way off the mark.

In reality Phuket girl is like any other girl today. Writing to a lot of guys, hoping to find THE ONE best option. In Thailand, many support their parents and need money, and so they ask for money, but it would be inaccurate to call this P4P or prostitution. It may be in the same neighbourhood, but a very different street.

You're right though, we don't need to worry about Pigman, his wealth means he will find someone else. Alas, she won't be Phuket girl, the girl he truly loved. And I don't blame him, I understand him. I even feel for him, for I know exactly what he's going through now. Obviously I'm still hostile towards him and still dream of doing a reservoir dogs scene on his crippled hands, for obvious reasons. But I understand him.

We can decry the heartless, merciless, even merceneary nature, of women, but in reality, if we were them, we would probably act in the same way.

Yes, Phuket Girl is far from perfect, and yes I will be very vigilant. That was Pigman's mistake really. Had he insisted on seeing her phone, he would have seen Phuket Girl arranging to meet me. I will not make the mistakes he has done.

56 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

You fail to recognise that falling in love with a p4p floozy is not a win, it’s self-delusion dressed up as triumph.

In a display of extreme naivety you’ve convinced yourself you’re the exception, the chosen one, the man who broke the pattern.

Wolfgang will be with someone else - perhaps better-looking than a 3 this time, and without the takoyaki lips and a face for radio - while you’ll be living in permanent low-grade paranoia looking over PG’s shoulder checking she’s not prowling for new customers every spare moment she has.

Every time you leave her alone, you’ll have that sinking feeling in your stomach - the one that reminds you the mercenary brass you’ve fallen for is moments away from spotting someone she considers a better option.

Yours is far from the victory you claim. It’s a face-plant into the depths of desperation and depravity - one that has turned you from someone mildly sympathetic - a man out of his depth into something defensive and bitter, lashing out to protect a narrative that’s visibly cracking. Your online persona has shifted from misguided to resentful, from hopeful to hostile.

You are very very far from a win.

Don't lose sight of his last paragraph.

It's a form of insanity. He knows it, but doesn't know how to escape it.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

You persist in calling Phuket girl a "P4P floozy". Others have called her a prostitute. In reality she and pigman were writing for 2 full years before they met in Phuket 6 months ago. She is not a P4P girl or a prostitute, she enters into real relationships with guys that last years and months. She does not ask for money for a one-off sex act. She is not a sex worker of any kind. Yes, she asks for money, as girlfriends do. But your analysis of "P4P" and others' of "prostitute" and such, is way off the mark.

In reality Phuket girl is like any other girl today. Writing to a lot of guys, hoping to find THE ONE best option. In Thailand, many support their parents and need money, and so they ask for money, but it would be inaccurate to call this P4P or prostitution. It may be in the same neighbourhood, but a very different street.

You're right though, we don't need to worry about Pigman, his wealth means he will find someone else. Alas, she won't be Phuket girl, the girl he truly loved. And I don't blame him, I understand him. I even feel for him, for I know exactly what he's going through now. Obviously I'm still hostile towards him and still dream of doing a reservoir dogs scene on his crippled hands, for obvious reasons. But I understand him.

We can decry the heartless, merciless, even merceneary nature, of women, but in reality, if we were them, we would probably act in the same way.

Yes, Phuket Girl is far from perfect, and yes I will be very vigilant. That was Pigman's mistake really. Had he insisted on seeing her phone, he would have seen Phuket Girl arranging to meet me. I will not make the mistakes he has done.

She enters into real relationships with old men who pay her a salary, which you will be doing.

The polite term for such a girl, is a 'sugar baby'. It's not a real relationship, but you are happy to accept the terms.

Some people see it as prostitution. Up to them, not up to you.

39 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

She enters into real relationships with old men who pay her a salary, which you will be doing.

The polite term for such a girl, is a 'sugar baby'. It's not a real relationship, but you are happy to accept the terms.

Some people see it as prostitution. Up to them, not up to you.

No. I will not be paying her a "salary". I will be paying what men have paid in the West for centuries, and used to be called "household money" but is called "allowance" in Thailand. Salary is a very different concept which does not apply here.

Sugar babies also have very commercial approaches, Phuket Girl however really develops emotional relationships with the men she meets. In her case the relationship is primarily an emotional relationship with a man, not a commercial one. So this is also an inaccurate characterization.

Some people can call it "prostitution", but they would then merely betray their ignorance and inability to grasp what prostitution is, a one-off payment for a one-off sex act, which, again clearly does not apply here.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

No. I will not be paying her a "salary". I will be paying what men have paid in the West for centuries, and used to be called "household money" but is called "allowance" in Thailand. Salary is a very different concept which does not apply here.

Sugar babies also have very commercial approaches, Phuket Girl however really develops emotional relationships with the men she meets. In her case the relationship is primarily an emotional relationship with a man, not a commercial one. So this is also an inaccurate characterization.

Some people can call it "prostitution", but they would then merely betray their ignorance and inability to grasp what prostitution is, a one-off payment for a one-off sex act, which, again clearly does not apply here.

Men give their children an allowance.

You'll be paying her a salary. The money will NOT be spent for your household. It's specifically money just for her. You will also be paying for everything else. You are the Sugar Daddy and she is the Sugar Baby. Of course you need to spin it in a way that makes it more acceptable to you. Understood.

But for others, your 'girl' leaving you to run back and have sex with some other dude would be unpalatable. You need to pretend that it's a delicacy. For me, it's a stinking rotten fish. No thank you, but you are welcome to it.

At an earlier juncture - when you were with her the first time - one could give you the benefit of the doubt and not call it prostitution. This is being generous after her comments to you when she was in Phuket before you met.

But she likely had Helmut booked in when with you the first time - telling you about voting and visiting parents etc. I think too you are going for a narrative that you won her back when it appears she had you booked in from near the start for 10 February. So she's being with a guy and knowing about future bookings with a second or third guy.

This helps define how she is going about things and prostitution seems a reasonable definition. Nothing bad about that but not fun if you have fallen for her.

He probably now sees her as a nasty dummkopf and he's happy he didn't invest too much.

What did you get her for valentines ... her birthday is along shortly too.

52 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

... so they ask for money, but it would be inaccurate to call this P4P or prostitution.

Call this whatever makes you comfortable.

I’m not judging what she is doing to make money.

But based on what you disclosed it seems she is an especially malicious and nasty specimen. She got a repertoire of despicable behaviour. Maybe you think it’s funny because at the moment you feel as winner and her nastiness is directed against someone else but it’s just a matter of time until she will turn against you.

Chok dee, as they say.

How small and low , you are as human and so called "lawyer".

You should have started the topic with "How shameless and rotten , I am"

A more appropriate title. The red line in the whole story.

1 minute ago, xtrnuno41 said:

How small and low , you are as human and so called "lawyer".

You should have started the topic with "How shameless and rotten , I am"

A more appropriate title. The red line in the whole story.

I think some people were saying that at the beginning.

A male viper meeting a female viper would feel completely normal to each other. In his world, it's all completely normal....or at least he fights to convince himself of that being the case.

It's unusual to watch snakes encircling each other in the wild, so people came to observe the behaviour.

13 minutes ago, mangkut70 said:

Call this whatever makes you comfortable.

I’m not judging what she is doing to make money.

But based on what you disclosed it seems she is an especially malicious and nasty specimen. She got a repertoire of despicable behaviour. Maybe you think it’s funny because at the moment you feel as winner and her nastiness is directed against someone else but it’s just a matter of time until she will turn against you.

Chok dee, as they say.

Chook dee is probably not appropriate 😊 Especially as you mean it in a perhaps, sarcastic manner. As in "good luck, you are going to need it".

You are quite correct in your post. But they are both not very nice, IMHO.

45 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

This helps define how she is going about things and prostitution seems a reasonable definition.

Obviously not. Prostitution is a one-off payment for a one-off sex act. What Phuket Girl does is clearly not prostitution. Nor is it even being a commercial "sugar baby" as her relationships are real, emotional affairs not commercially driven.

46 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

What did you get her for valentines ... her birthday is along shortly too.

I didn't get her anything for Valentines Day. I don't subscribe to that commercial day, and nor does she, she was clear she doesn't want chocolates, flowers or such. Instead I took her on a ferry to one of the most beautiful beaches in Thailand, and we walked on the beach. We were travelling, so flowers wouldn't have worked anyway.

I will obviously go all out on her birthday in a big way. No way around it.

42 minutes ago, mangkut70 said:

Maybe you think it’s funny because at the moment you feel as winner and her nastiness is directed against someone else but it’s just a matter of time until she will turn against you.

A very simplistic moralist view, typical German really, but there's an element of truth to it. I stand in awe at the merciless nature of females. Phuket girl getting Pigman to pay 4000 baht for her haircut just a day before she flew out to meet me, after getting 15000 from him a few days earlier, it really is a ruthlessness I think few men would be capable of.

Then to ask for penis photos of Pigman and show me the convo, surely is a betrayal of confidence with Pigman, that has epic proportions. It was funny, sure, but I'm well aware of the implications.

Clearly I am playing with fire, and Phuket Girl is as ruthless as they come. No pity, almost. There are moments even I feel pity for Pigman.

17 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

No. I will not be paying her a "salary". I will be paying what men have paid in the West for centuries, and used to be called "household money" but is called "allowance" in Thailand. Salary is a very different concept which does not apply here.

Sugar babies also have very commercial approaches, Phuket Girl however really develops emotional relationships with the men she meets. In her case the relationship is primarily an emotional relationship with a man, not a commercial one. So this is also an inaccurate characterization.

Some people can call it "prostitution", but they would then merely betray their ignorance and inability to grasp what prostitution is, a one-off payment for a one-off sex act, which, again clearly does not apply here.

Awww.... Cam... The way you keep polishing this little floozy-turd arrangement, buffing it, rebranding it, insisting it resembles some noble, time-honoured man-wife “household money” tradition would be charming if it weren’t so truly delusional, utterly desparate and blinkered beyond any reasonable approach to partnership.

You did not meet a wife. You found a destitute girl online who is more than half your age.

A girl with no career. No education to speak of. No future.
No independent income stream beyond men.

A girl who slept with you within forty-five minutes of meeting you.

A girl who has moved, repeatedly, between men based on who was paying.

A girl who leaves when the money pauses.
Returns when the money resumes. Negotiates sums. Requests phones. Demands 30,000 baht.

A girl who, throughout all of this, remained (remains) active on ThaiFriendly and Tinder - browsing, fishing, “emotionally connecting” - if thats your term for it... How many men has she 'emotionally connected with' ?... (for a small fee of course !).

A girl who told you she was visiting family in Sisaket while actually living in Phuket with another man who was financing her stay.

A girl who has openly admitted staying with someone she claimed was disgusting deeply disliked because the money was good.

And yet you still insist this is primarily “emotional”.

It’s not ignorance to call this prostitution, a p4p Girlfriend, It’s simple pattern recognition.

The legal Definition for Prostitution (in the UK): The Sexual Offences Act 2003 defines a prostitute as someone who, on at least one occasion, offers or provides sexual services for payment or a promise of payment - this flabby-lipped-f£$k-ball is a repeat offender !!!...

Your argument that prostitution is strictly a one-off payment for a single sex act is convenient - but absurdly narrow. By that logic, anything with instalments becomes romance. You yourself once calculated whether you had “got your money’s worth” based on how many times you'd bumped uglies... That's bookkeeping.

Let’s remove the euphemisms.

- She has sex with men who pay her.
- She stays with men who fund her.
- She leaves when funding dries up.
- She actively scouts for replacements.

That isn’t Victorian household tradition. It isn’t misunderstood emotional depth. It isn’t cultural nuance.

It’s a financial arrangement with the pantomime of intimacy bundled in.

The mental gymnastics required to convert that into a grand love story is genuinely impressive, and equally as tragic.

The rest of us are simply watching you narrate your own denial in real time - a train-wreck on repeat !

Call it allowance if it helps you sleep. The structure doesn’t change just because you renamed it - she's a prostitute, a ho, a p4p girlfriend... the money dries up, so does she - it really is that very simple and your ego yet again, blinds you to the obvious. You want this to be exceptional. Singular. Romantic. It isn’t.

Every single man on that forum could compete for her attention tomorrow if they were willing to operate under the same terms - join the same platform, make the same offer, play the same game. There’s nothing mystical about it. There’s no divine chemistry clause...

You’ll say she had other offers and “didn’t take them”... Of course she didn’t. That’s how markets work - she doesn't have to take every offer... she didn't tell you which ones she 'did' take !!!

... this famous line should help you out on that one: “I say who. I say when. I say how much”...

That isn’t romance. That’s supplier control.

You’re not in a love story. You’re in a negotiation you’re pretending isn’t one - The only person who seems not to see it is you.

This isn’t criticism of the fact that a woman is with you for money. In Thailand, p4p arrangements are hardly rare. If two consenting adults are comfortable with a transactional setup, fine. No moral outrage. No pearl-clutching.

What’s being judged isn’t the arrangement. It’s the theatre. It’s the staggering delusion you wrap around it.

You’re not being mocked for participating in a p4p dynamic. You’re being mocked for pretending it’s something else - and then declaring victory over a man who openly understood exactly what he was paying for.

He knew the terms. He knew the structure. He didn’t rebrand it as destiny.

You, on the other hand, insist that the same mercenary operator who rotated between paying men has somehow transcended economics because you arrived. That she “chose you” for love. That this is different. It isn’t different. It’s just re-labelled.

The nastiness creeps in when you try to elevate yourself above someone who was at least honest about the transaction, while you’re busy narrating yours as romance.

That’s the delusion that shines brightest. Not the arrangement itself - but the insistence on polishing the solid sewage it into a fairy tale and expecting applause.

It may well be the most elaborately buffed degree of delusion this forum has witnessed.

23 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

A girl who has moved, repeatedly, between men based on who was paying.

No, she never had any problem to make money. She also worked in a shop in her home town and in a factory. The reason she left men had nothing whatsoever to do with money.

25 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Demands 30,000 baht.

No, she doesn't. I calculated the 30000 baht as a best guess, since Pigman paid her 15000 plus 4000 for hair cut, 3000 for flight, and got her food and dresses. 30000 seems like a reasonable amount Pigman spent on her, but it's not what she "demanded".

26 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

A girl who, throughout all of this, remained (remains) active on ThaiFriendly

That's a lie. As you have the knowledge to check her TF account, you can do so now. It has not been used for 3 weeks. Her TF is deleted.

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

How many men has she 'emotionally connected with' ?... (for a small fee of course !).

None, apart from Pigman and me. However, she has written to guys on Whatsapp she met on the beach in Phuket. I saw her phone. Not great, I know.

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

A girl who told you she was visiting family in Sisaket while actually living in Phuket with another man who was financing her stay.

She did visit family. But then lied for 10 days after going to Phuket, that's undeniable.

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

A girl who has openly admitted staying with someone she claimed was disgusting deeply disliked because the money was good.

I don't think she claimed Pigman was disgusting, did she?

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

on at least one occasion, offers or provides sexual services for payment

By that definition she is clearly NOT a prostitute, as she demands the money but never offers sexual services in return for it.

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

She leaves when funding dries up.

Not at all, the funding from pigman was in flow, it didn't dry up. She left for reasons that had nothing to do with money.

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

she's a prostitute, a ho, a p4p girlfriend... the money dries up, so does she -

She certainly is no prostitute, and the money from Pigman was not drying up, it was in full flow. Just one day before she came to meet me he paid her 4000 for a haircut.

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

Every single man on that forum could compete for her attention tomorrow if they were willing to operate under the same terms

None of you would have a chance, I'm afraid.

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

a man who openly understood exactly what he was paying for.

He knew the terms. He knew the structure. He didn’t rebrand it as destiny.

Lol, pigman was even more in love than I was, he was heart broken he said, accused her of breaking his heart, sent photos with valentines roses. He certainly would deny it was prostitution.

Looks like you're engaging in some major mental gymnastics and delusions yourself, as usual, Richard.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

No, she never had any problem to make money. She also worked in a shop in her home town and in a factory. The reason she left men had nothing whatsoever to do with money.

LOL... moved to Patong for the beach-life and temples - stayed there for her civic duty to vote 🤣

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

No, she doesn't. I calculated the 30000 baht as a best guess, since Pigman paid her 15000 plus 4000 for hair cut, 3000 for flight, and got her food and dresses. 30000 seems like a reasonable amount Pigman spent on her, but it's not what she "demanded".

She demanded 30,000 baht from you when you offered 20,000 baht.

Another time she demanded 100,000 baht. Another time she demanded a new phone.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

That's a lie. As you have the knowledge to check her TF account, you can do so now. It has not been used for 3 weeks. Her TF is deleted.

It was fun at the time to prove your delusion, and how blinded you were to the fact that she was still active.

I no longer have that account (it was a temp account just for that purpose).

It takes mere minutes to open an account - because you haven't found her account it doesn't mean this leapard has changer her spots - it just means she's better a hiding than you are and catching her.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

None, apart from Pigman and me. However, she has written to guys on Whatsapp she met on the beach in Phuket. I saw her phone. Not great, I know.

That you 'know of'... wholly naïve - she was all over TF, she showed you loads of messages, you also found her active on Tinder...

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

She did visit family. But then lied for 10 days after going to Phuket, that's undeniable.

To very briefly visit her kids ?...

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I don't think she claimed Pigman was disgusting, did she?

I don't know - I recall you claiming she said she hated him and found him discusting.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

By that definition she is clearly NOT a prostitute, as she demands the money but never offers sexual services in return for it.

Shagging someoene she doesn't like for money on multiple occasions kind of confirms the description !!!

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Not at all, the funding from pigman was in flow, it didn't dry up. She left for reasons that had nothing to do with money.

Other than the offer of money you made her !!!

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

She certainly is no prostitute, and the money from Pigman was not drying up, it was in full flow. Just one day before she came to meet me he paid her 4000 for a haircut.

Of course - 4000 for a hair-cut, not for sex - no sex involved... Hilarious.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

None of you would have a chance, I'm afraid.

None of us are stupid enough - but your delusion that you are top of the pile is hilarious.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Lol, pigman was even more in love than I was, he was heart broken he said, accused her of breaking his heart, sent photos with valentines roses. He certainly would deny it was prostitution.

Sounds exactly like you.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Looks like you're engaging in some major mental gymnastics and delusions yourself, as usual, Richard.

Spade is a spade - you're gullible, she's playing you, you'll pay - you already admitted many times you will.

She'll leave you if you don't pay.

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

In reality Phuket girl is like any other girl today.

Oh really? So in her mid 20s what is her job besides begging old decrepit men for money?

Regarding the Austrian guy, he handled it surprisingly well just one short comment and he was done. He gets that this is Thailand, same budget, but this time he can get a girl without varicose veins on her mouth.

He will be fine.

I can't decide if the OP's posts in the thread are real or if he is trolling everyone. Some of his posts seem far-fetched.

2 minutes ago, Fact said:

I can't decide if the OP's posts in the thread are real or if he is trolling everyone. Some of his posts seem far-fetched.

I thought so too - but he's so consistent in his delusion this can't be an act. Trolls slip. They contradict themselves for effect. He doesn’t. He’s unwavering. Painfully so. The delusion is too structured, too methodical, too defensive to be performance art.

And then there’s the inconvenient detail - the accounts. The very real fact that his p4p floozy has/had very active profiles hunting elsewhere. Unless we’re now meant to believe Cam masterminded an elaborate digital sting operation to enrich the narrative of this thread, the far simpler explanation is the correct one.

Subterfuge on that level would require self-awareness. His posts suggest the opposite - lost in delusion.

What we’re watching isn’t trolling. It’s attachment layered over transaction, wrapped in denial.

A transactional relationship has been reframed as destiny. A financial dynamic has been rebranded as emotional exclusivity.

Every contradiction is explained away. Every red flag becomes “cultural nuance”. Every financial demand becomes “household tradition”.

That’s not clever storytelling. That’s someone clinging desperately to a narrative because the alternative would require admitting he misread the situation entirely.

This isn’t satire. It’s a man publicly narrating his own rationalisation in real time.

That’s far more uncomfortable than any troll could realistically manufacture.

Just now, richard_smith237 said:

That’s far more uncomfortable than any troll could realistically manufacture.

I agree with your assessment. As someone said, life is stranger than fiction.