2 minutes ago, candide said:

No no! According to the usual racist rant on this thread, we've been told that they were Muslim immigrants! 

 

 

They might be Muslim............................. But I wasn't aware that Caribbean roots lay in the Quran.

Mace needs to be legalised in the UK.

 

Having ruined the country and put us all in danger at least let us defend ourselves. 

 

This reminds me of the Lee Rigby machete attack. 

11 minutes ago, candide said:

No no! According to the usual racist rant on this thread, we've been told that they were Muslim immigrants! 

And who is behind 99% of such attacks in Europe?

2 hours ago, proton said:

Was the is the Allah line on the diversity express? Not to panic it's only another 'isolated incident' - the 157th this year. Two attackers- the mental illness excuse wont run, likely another Jihad attack or those grateful asylum seekers again.

Not asylum seekers after all - they were both British nationals. Also nothing to suggest it was terrorist-related, apparently. 

 

Quote

... the men arrested were a 32 year-old Black British national and a 35 year-old British national of Caribbean descent.

"However, at this stage, there is nothing to suggest that this is a terrorist incident ..."

 

UK police says two British men arrested after train attack

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-police-says-two-british-men-arrested-after-train-attack-2025-11-02/

5 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Anyway, I have stopped using knives, these days.

 

Also, I have a fear of walking too close to the edge of rooftops.....

Once one begins to fear that one might jump off, or lose control.....

It's best to just give up shaving, as well.

 

 

Perhaps best to ease off on the meds too...  

3 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Not asylum seekers after all - they were both British nationals. Also nothing to suggest it was terrorist-related, apparently. 

 

 

UK police says two British men arrested after train attack

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-police-says-two-british-men-arrested-after-train-attack-2025-11-02/

 

If they are muslims it is terrorism

2 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Not asylum seekers after all - they were both British nationals. Also nothing so suggest it was terrorist-related, apparently. 

 

 

UK police says two British men arrested after train attack

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-police-says-two-british-men-arrested-after-train-attack-2025-11-02/

 

The link you shared also notes that the men arrested were a 32-year-old Black British national and a 35-year-old British national of Caribbean descent.

 

I’m not suggesting this was racially motivated, but perhaps culturally influenced. Were these second-generation migrants, for instance? (As in the Southport case, one wonders about background and assimilation.)

 

That said, those of Caribbean heritage are not generally associated with such behaviour in the UK. Which makes this incident all the more perplexing.

 

The greater question, of course, is one of drive - what compels men to act with such savage intent? This kind of mass stabbing is far removed from conventional British culture. We’re not a society accustomed to public rampages or collective violence of this kind - this isn’t the United States with its recurring mass shootings.

 

Whatever the underlying cause, it reflects something deeply fractured beneath the surface of modern Britain – a breakdown not of race, but of restraint, identity, and perhaps belonging.

 

 

4 minutes ago, proton said:

If they are muslims it is terrorism

 

With one of the men reportedly being from the Caribbean it seems unlikely that they were Muslim... (though not out of the question of course - just unlikely). 

 

 

You can sense the relief......not white.

2 hours ago, proton said:

Was the is the Allah line on the diversity express? Not to panic it's only another 'isolated incident' - the 157th this year. Two attackers- the mental illness excuse wont run, likely another Jihad attack or those grateful asylum seekers again.

 

Must be quite disappointing for yo that it didn't fit your narrative. Just like the Liverpool driver who ploughed into the crowd, or the guy who shot Charlie Kirk.

 

So sorry. 

 

Anyways, hope all those effected are recovering from this awful incident. 

2 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

You can sense the relief......not white.

And also the disappointment - not an asylum seeker.

Just now, Will B Good said:

You can sense the relief......not white.

 

I don’t think anyone’s “relieved” about the race or nationality of those involved - just curious. People naturally want to understand why this kind of violence happens, what the underlying drive is.

 

Given the social temperature in the UK right now, many probably feared this might have been another religiously motivated attack, especially considering the pattern of the last 15 years. In that sense, it’s almost a relief to find that this incident doesn’t appear to be connected to terrorism or Islamist ideology.

 

But that doesn’t make it any less disturbing. If anything, it raises deeper questions about what’s fuelling such extreme acts - alienation, anger, or something more corrosive within parts of modern culture.

5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

The link you shared also notes that the men arrested were a 32-year-old Black British national and a 35-year-old British national of Caribbean descent.

 

I’m not suggesting this was racially motivated, but perhaps culturally influenced. Were these second-generation migrants, for instance? (As in the Southport case, one wonders about background and assimilation.)

 

That said, those of Caribbean heritage are not generally associated with such behaviour in the UK. Which makes this incident all the more perplexing.

 

The greater question, of course, is one of drive - what compels men to act with such savage intent? This kind of mass stabbing is far removed from conventional British culture. We’re not a society accustomed to public rampages or collective violence of this kind - this isn’t the United States with its recurring mass shootings.

 

Whatever the underlying cause, it reflects something deeply fractured beneath the surface of modern Britain – a breakdown not of race, but of restraint, identity, and perhaps belonging.

 

 

 

 

We don't know what has happened. Was it an incident between the two that spiralled out of control?  Was this something they intended to do?

 

There has always been incidents like this in life unfortunately, we had the taxi driver last year plough into a crowd of people in Liverpool. We've had horrofic atrocoities done by the IRA, Dumblane school shooting, and of course there has been attacks from those with a religious aspect. 

 

Racists must have been praying it was muslims. 

Just now, josephbloggs said:

And also the disappointment - not an asylum seeker.

 

Another facet to this is the public reaction itself. The fact that some, even many, instinctively wondered whether the attackers might have been asylum seekers says a great deal about the current mood in Britain. It reflects not just anxiety over migration and integration, but a growing distrust in the systems meant to manage both.

 

That kind of reflex assumption isn’t rooted purely in prejudice - it’s born from years of political evasiveness and repeated failures in handling immigration, crime, and community cohesion.

 

When people start leaping to conclusions, it’s often because they no longer have confidence in official narratives.

Just now, DonniePeverley said:

We don't know what has happened. Was it an incident between the two that spiralled out of control?  Was this something they intended to do?

 

There has always been incidents like this in life unfortunately, we had the taxi driver last year plough into a crowd of people in Liverpool. We've had horrofic atrocoities done by the IRA, Dumblane school shooting, and of course there has been attacks from those with a religious aspect. 

 

Racists must have been praying it was muslims. 

 

I’d hope you’re right - that this was an isolated incident that spiralled out of control, rather than any form of planned or ideological attack. That distinction matters, not only for understanding motive but for what it says about where we are as a society.

 

If this was a moment of chaos rather than coordination, it points to personal fracture rather than organised extremism - a tragedy of individuals, not of movements. Still, the fact that we even have to hope it wasn’t something wider speaks volumes about the collective unease running through the country right now.

 

 

 

19 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Perhaps best to ease off on the meds too...  

 

It's all about CONTROLLING IMPULSIVE behavior, is it not?

 

Sometimes, meds can help.

 

24 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

And who is behind 99% of such attacks in Europe?

I don't know. Would you care to show some figures?

2 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

              Further to my previous comment, For the people to fight back , it would require one person to make the first move whilst not knowing if anyone else would join in, he would then immediately  be in the position of facing two knife wielding maniacs alone, 

             Few people are capable of stepping up to the mark in a situation like that, maybe off duty special forces, or similar but that's about it. the average have a go hero would get sliced to ribbons if the assailants meant business, and it could make things even worse for everybody.

             Not only that but if a few did join in and in the ensuing melee one of the perps was wounded fatally or otherwise all those involved would have their lives turned upside down for months if not years whilst "due process" as the lefties like to put it, is followed, 

             The consequences of that don't bear thinking about,  Stress, Inconvenience, Marriage breakdown, Loss of Job. Loss of house, Homelessness, etc etc  And don't expect any help from the authorities

             There really are a lot of good reasons not to get involved or play the hero

Daniel Penney's ordeal was the death blow for bystanders coming to the rescue. Cheers lefties.

1 hour ago, candide said:

No no! According to the usual racist rant on this thread, we've been told that they were Muslim immigrants! 

When I personally write about Muslims in the context of terror attacks, I am referring to people poisoned by Islamic ideology. This is not about race, since such individuals can belong to any ethnicity, including black Caribbeans.

4 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

If only there was a good guy with a knife. More knives are the answer.

An armed society is a polite society?

4 minutes ago, BeastOfBodmin said:

"Two black guys" was mentioned by people on the train, running in the opposite direction.

 

That's right...because....

 

For the life of me.....I have never been able to envision.....

 

Two Black Guys able to run in unison.

 

6 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

 

 

That kind of reflex assumption isn’t rooted purely in prejudice - it’s born from years of political evasiveness and repeated failures in handling immigration, crime, and community cohesion.

 

 

 

 

What sort of cohesion is there from the Brits in Spain or Thailand? The vast majority of Brits i know in Thailand don't assimilate. They learn nothing of the culture, religion. They don't learn any of the Thai language (my friend has lived here 20 years and still can't speak a word of Thai). They want their British foods. They import some rather iffy tendancies - being sex tourists, drunk in bars at 2pm. Demanding copies of the Daily Mail. I'd argue they make no effort to assimilate either. 

 

Same in Spain - they make no efforts to assimilate. 

 

Furthermore most of the violence in Thailand (especially Pattaya at the moment is coming from these Brits. 

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

That said, those of Caribbean heritage are not generally associated with such behaviour in the UK. Which makes this incident all the more perplexing.

 

 

They are in London

12 minutes ago, BeastOfBodmin said:

An armed society is a polite society?

His comment was sarcastic and referring to usual pro-gun rhetoric in the US.

52 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Daniel Penney's ordeal was the death blow for bystanders coming to the rescue. Cheers lefties.

Your ridiculous rush to blame "lefties" for anything is now getting over the top stupid - even for you.

So no-one stood up to two frenzied knife wielding maniacs because an ex-US Marine choked an unarmed homeless man to death in America and had to answer in court. And him going to court for killing someone and facing negligent homicide charges is the fault of "lefties"? Nothing to do with the criminal justice system and due process then, just lefties. And people should be allowed to kill unarmed black people and not have to answer questions. Because of "lefties". And he got off, so what's the problem - even though his superior who trained him in the chokehold said he did not apply it correctly as you are taught to release it when the person is unconscious, not continue it until they are dead.

But you're 100% right. One eye witness on the BBC reported that "two black men were wildly stabbing anyone and everyone within reach, there was blood everywhere, it was terrifying. I was about to tackle them myself but then I remembered a US marine choking an unarmed homeless man to death on the other side of the world, and his trial went through my mind, and even though he was acquitted I am sure it was stressful for the poor guy. After 15 minutes of consideration, checking Wikipedia in case I had mis-remembered the exact case, I decided not to tackle the knife attackers. Of course police had already tasered and arrested them by the time I had finished cross checking Wikipedia sources, but I was ready to pounce! Damn lefties!"

 

32 minutes ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

 

What sort of cohesion is there from the Brits in Spain or Thailand? The vast majority of Brits i know in Thailand don't assimilate. They learn nothing of the culture, religion. They don't learn any of the Thai language (my friend has lived here 20 years and still can't speak a word of Thai). They want their British foods. They import some rather iffy tendancies - being sex tourists, drunk in bars at 2pm. Demanding copies of the Daily Mail. I'd argue they make no effort to assimilate either. 

 

Same in Spain - they make no efforts to assimilate. 

 

Furthermore most of the violence in Thailand (especially Pattaya at the moment is coming from these Brits. 

Totally agree. When my dog jumps in the river he actually immediately becomes a fish.

2 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Your ridiculous rush to blame "lefties" for anything is now getting over the top stupid - even for you.

So no-one stood up to two frenzied knife wielding maniacs because an ex-US Marine choked an unarmed homeless man to death in America and had to answer in court. And him going to court for killing someone and facing negligent homicide charges is the fault of "lefties"? Nothing to do with the criminal justice system and due process then, just lefties. And people should be allowed to kill unarmed black people and not have to answer questions. Because of "lefties". And he got off, so what's the problem - even though his superior who trained him in the chokehold said he did not apply it correctly as you are taught to release it when the person is unconscious, not continue it until they are dead.

But you're 100% right. One eye witness on the BBC reported that "two black men were wildly stabbing anyone and everyone within reach, there was blood everywhere, it was terrifying. I was about to tackle them myself but then I remembered a US marine choking an unarmed homeless man to death on the other side of the world, and his trial went through my mind, and even though he was found not guilty I am sure it was stressful for the poor guy. After 15 minutes of consideration, checking Wikipedia in case I had mis-remembered the exact case, I decided not to tackle the knife attackers. Of course police had already tasered and arrested them by the time I had finished cross checking Wikipedia sources, but I was ready to pounce! Damn lefties!"

 

Should i start opening a dozen threads a day to rant about lefties like you clowns do about Trump? (The lefts gold standard of rational behavior)

2 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Should i start opening a dozen threads a day to rant about lefties like you clowns do about Trump? (The lefts gold standard of rational behavior)

What's Trump got to do with this?

You have issues. 

9 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Should i start opening a dozen threads a day to rant about lefties like you clowns do about Trump? (The lefts gold standard of rational behavior)

Left/right obsessive.

2 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

A few months ago, I purchased some knives from Lazada.

 

But then, I re-read the story of Julius Caesar.

 

After the re-reading, I buried my knives, out back.

 

And, I even went so far as to stop eating Caesar salad.

 

I was too fearful that the thought of the salad might goad me into some untoward criminal act.

 

Poor old Caesar, what did he ever do to harm a soul.

 

Anyway, I have stopped using knives, these days.

 

Also, I have a fear of walking too close to the edge of rooftops.....

Once one begins to fear that one might jump off, or lose control.....

It's best to just give up shaving, as well.

 

 

Julius Caesar, whose demise was so dramatically brought to life by the great Kenneth Williams in the notable docu-drama "Carry on Cleo":

 

" Infamy, infamy, they've all got it in for me!"