31 minutes ago, Jack1988 said:

I want to apply for an ED visa or DTV after 60 days exemption + 30 days extension. That's my plan

If plan is to obtain a DTV then you would skip the visa exempt entry. 

DTV is applied for outside of Thailand and being 5 year ME visa would make visa except unnecessary

20 hours ago, GanDoonToonPet said:

 

Good news about the 'Great Reset' if it's applied across the board. An announcement on the Thai immigration website would be nice but I suppose is asking too much.

 

Interesting that they've included an SETV as a valid visa to apply for after the two VE60 even though they're effectively the same thing 🤔

they are NOT the same thing.
if they were , one or the other would be eliminated 
Tourist visa costs, never requires an onward ticket and ur travel history is checked long before u arrive in Thailand 

1 hour ago, zzzzz said:

Tourist visa costs, never requires an onward ticket and ur travel history is checked long before u arrive in Thailand 

Tourist visa can absolutely require an onward ticket.  The proofs to enter Thailand are the same for a tourist entry regardless of it being VOA, VE, or TV.  

It's not common for anyone to be asked for proof of onward travel.  But those who are asked it's more often visa exempt.  But it absolutely can be asked of someone who is entering with a tourist visa, same as they can ask for proof of lodging and proof of funds.  But being asked for those is not common for anyone, even VE people.

On 12/4/2025 at 11:00 AM, Liquorice said:

Intending to arrive VE, by air, or land border?

 

Doesn't seem to make a difference anymore, except for not being able to extend VE when arriving overland...

18 minutes ago, StayinThailand2much said:

 

Doesn't seem to make a difference anymore, except for not being able to extend VE when arriving overland...

That is a difference, as well as scrutinising the number of VE entries and total days stayed.

On 12/5/2025 at 9:13 AM, BrandonJT said:

Tourist visa can absolutely require an onward ticket.  The proofs to enter Thailand are the same for a tourist entry regardless of it being VOA, VE, or TV.  

It's not common for anyone to be asked for proof of onward travel.  But those who are asked it's more often visa exempt.  But it absolutely can be asked of someone who is entering with a tourist visa, same as they can ask for proof of lodging and proof of funds.  But being asked for those is not common for anyone, even VE people.

It seems onward travel ticket is required for tourist visa on the E-visa application website. or are you saying this about the immigration officer when you enter the country ? 

11 minutes ago, thaitom said:

It seems onward travel ticket is required for tourist visa on the E-visa application website. or are you saying this about the immigration officer when you enter the country ? 

 

On arrival, the IO may ask to see proof of onward or return travel. It's just one of several things they may ask to see evidence of.

 

A lot of what they may or may not ask to see will be based on the person's prior Thai immigration history. There's no one-size fits-all situation and, as far as I'm aware, there never has been.

1 hour ago, thaitom said:

It seems onward travel ticket is required for tourist visa on the E-visa application website. or are you saying this about the immigration officer when you enter the country ? 

Both.

On 12/6/2025 at 9:18 AM, StayinThailand2much said:

 

Doesn't seem to make a difference anymore, except for not being able to extend VE when arriving overland...

 

I am not certain that anyone has reported a refusal of 30 days extension to a first overland VE this year........I will be perfectly content if someone provides an example.

 

It remains to be seen what happens when someone seeks a 30 day extension to a first VE entry overland next year.

 

I will not be taking any chances next year (for my first and only overland in January) and  getting a TV.

 

On Tuesday I start a 7 day extension after VE arrival by air in October.

 

 

12 minutes ago, Enoon said:

On Tuesday I start a 7 day extension after VE arrival by air in October.

You mean that you have a 7 day extension already? 

Can you post pic

15 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

You mean that you have a 7 day extension already? 

Can you post pic

 

I previously entered VE overland in January and got 30 days ext.......do you still want pic of my  current 7 day extension?

 

 

2 hours ago, Enoon said:

.do you still want pic of my  current 7 day extension?

Nevermind. 

Up until recently I didn't know it was an actual extension. 

Thought it was 7 day stamp to exit Thailand. 

Different thing. 

So you applied for this few days remaining on current permission of stay. 

Did immigration tell you before stamping passport and paying 1900b that the extension would be for 7 days

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

Nevermind. 

Up until recently I didn't know it was an actual extension. 

Thought it was 7 day stamp to exit Thailand. 

Different thing. 

So you applied for this few days remaining on current permission of stay. 

Did immigration tell you before stamping passport and paying 1900b that the extension would be for 7 days

 

Applied a week before permission up.

 

When the form checker in the IO helping me to fill the form asked me what Visa I was on I said it was Visa Exempt. They then had a conversation with one of the other staff and told me I could only have 7 days.....which I was "expecting but hoping for better".  I was actually putting in for only 22 days extension, which was all I needed.

 

The uniformed IO at the point of application/stamping also pointed it out and said there would be no problem me coming back in overland 7 days after I had left Thailand........which was what I had planned to do (and already thinking it might be on TV).

 

The upshot is that I will be having a 3 week visit to Laos instead of 1 week.

 

 

 

the positive thing about not being in thailand is i dont have to worry about changing visa rules

1 hour ago, mordothailand said:

the positive thing about not being in thailand is i dont have to worry about changing visa rules

Really, why what rules have changed about visas?

1 hour ago, mordothailand said:

the positive thing about not being in thailand is i dont have to worry about changing visa rules

Your post would make bit of sence if it was.. "Changing visa exempt rules" 

Rules regarding visas have not had changes apart from couple of acknowledgement forms re overstay etc

41 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

Really, why what rules have changed about visas?

im guessing you can no longer make a border run as needed, or ED visa year after year

11 minutes ago, mordothailand said:

im guessing you can no longer make a border run as needed, or ED visa year after year

The first  option has changed and second ED visa ongoing was always problematic. 

Are you trying to make a point? 

It ain't working. 

Thailand has many visa options. 

Check em out

5 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

The first ootion option has changed and second ED visa ongoing was always problematic. 

Are you trying to make a point? 

It ain't working. 

Thailand has many visa options. 

Check em out

no, not trying to make a point, i just reflect over the one thing that caused great discomfort in LOS

1 minute ago, mordothailand said:

no, not trying to make a point, i just reflect over the one thing that caused great discomfort in LOS

Use of visa exempt entries ongoing as a means to live in Thailand ongoing is as old as Adam. 

 

Even some folk with Non O alternatives opt for ve. 

Perhaps they may now reconsider options

 

Maybe it is time to get a visa that matches your plans?

5 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Maybe it is time to get a visa that matches your plans?

im old enough to qualify for retirement visa by now, but im also so badly handicapped with back issues so i cant be there when its time to die, which i really grudge

On 12/4/2025 at 5:56 AM, Jack1988 said:

2026 everything will be reset and no need to apply for a tourist e-visa, that's great haha. I'm waiting for the countdown then 

I have a feeling that those who downvoted this post, are elite visa holders. They are so pissed that there is a much cheaper way to legally stay in Thailand 😄

17 minutes ago, thaiasia said:

I have a feeling that those who downvoted this post, are elite visa holders. They are so pissed that there is a much cheaper way to legally stay in Thailand 😄

Very few folk have a PE visa.. 

For those under 50 there are many options eg DTV to mention one. 

Also METV etc. 

List goes on 

Not happy with options go live in Vietnam multi  entry 3 month $45 usd. 

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

Very few folk have a PE visa.. 

For those under 50 there are many options eg DTV to mention one. 

Also METV etc. 

List goes on 

Not happy with options go live in Vietnam multi  entry 3 month $45 usd. 

is it possible to take driving license on DTV visa ?

19 minutes ago, mordothailand said:

is it possible to take driving license on DTV visa ?

Yes; however, while you start with a 2 year licence and then can get 5 years the next time on some visas, like NON O, you can only get 2 years at a time on a DTV.

4 hours ago, mordothailand said:

im guessing you can no longer make a border run as needed, or ED visa year after year

The only change in policy is entering 'exempt'' which means without a visa.
There is no change to visas issued by Thai Embassies/Consulates.

On 12/4/2025 at 11:06 AM, Liquorice said:

However, if you max out two VE entries by staying 60 days each time, you are likely to be questioned and refused entry a third time even with a TV as that would then total 180 days.

 

If 180 days (or 157, or 150) is the new 'limit' per year, even with a SETV, what use is such a visa then?

6 minutes ago, StayinThailand2much said:

 

If 180 days (or 157, or 150) is the new 'limit' per year, even with a SETV, what use is such a visa then?

SETV is for Tourists and tourism, not long term stays.

Other visa types allow you to extend your temporary permit of stay for 365 days infinitely as a Non Immigrant.

9 hours ago, Liquorice said:

SETV is for Tourists and tourism, not long term stays.

Other visa types allow you to extend your temporary permit of stay for 365 days infinitely as a Non Immigrant.

 

My point was, if the SETV is included in the 150 days (or whatever), why should I go through the 'trouble' of applying for such a visa, if VFEs give me the same number of "allowed" days in Thailand per year...