https://www.reuters.com/world/us/officials-criticize-biden-vetting-afghan-shooting-suspect-was-granted-asylum-2025-11-27/

 

 

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 The Trump administration on Thursday blamed Biden-era vetting failures for the admission of an Afghan immigrant suspected of shooting two National Guard members in Washington, D.C., but the alleged gunman was granted asylum this year under President Donald Trump, according to a U.S. government file seen by Reuters.

 

4 minutes ago, shdmn said:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/officials-criticize-biden-vetting-afghan-shooting-suspect-was-granted-asylum-2025-11-27/

 

 

 

Rumor has it that Trump personally interviewed the perp at Marlago and signed the paper himself. 

5 minutes ago, TedG said:

Rumor has it that Trump personally interviewed the perp at Marlago and signed the paper himself. 

 

Rumor has it that it wasn't Biden who granted his asylum in April 2025

Just now, CallumWK said:

 

Rumor has it that it wasn't Biden who granted his asylum in April 2025

In the United States, asylum is issued by 

U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) Asylum Officers for those who apply affirmatively, and by Immigration Judges in the Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR) for those in removal proceedings. Both processes involve trained officials determining if an applicant qualifies for protection in the U.S. based on past persecution or a well-founded fear of future persecution. 

 

 

1 minute ago, TedG said:

In the United States, asylum is issued by 

U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) Asylum Officers for those who apply affirmatively, and by Immigration Judges in the Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR) for those in removal proceedings. Both processes involve trained officials determining if an applicant qualifies for protection in the U.S. based on past persecution or a well-founded fear of future persecution. 

 

 

 

And they all are part of the TRUMP administration, so why did TRUMP posted the lies that he was admitted under Biden presidency>?
And by the way, the one and only reason so many Afghans entered the US is because of TRUMP ordered the withdrawal of all US troopsfrom Afghanistan in 2020

Just now, CallumWK said:

 

And they all are part of the TRUMP administration, so why did TRUMP posted the lies that he was admitted under Biden presidency>?
And by the way, the one and only reason so many Afghans entered the US is because of TRUMP ordered the withdrawal of all US troopsfrom Afghanistan in 2020

Your boy Biden ended the war despite his advisors telling him not to.  

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/09/28/top-generals-afghanistan-withdrawal-congress-hearing-514491

3 minutes ago, TedG said:

Your boy Biden ended the war despite his advisors telling him not to.  

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/09/28/top-generals-afghanistan-withdrawal-congress-hearing-514491

 

Trump ordered rapid withdrawal from Afghanistan after election loss

 

Milley said he was shocked when he saw the withdrawal orders, signed by Trump on Veterans Day 2020, just four days after Joe Biden was declared the winner of the 2020 presidential election.

 

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2022/10/13/trump-ordered-rapid-withdrawal-from-afghanistan-after-election-loss/

Just now, CallumWK said:

 

Trump ordered rapid withdrawal from Afghanistan after election loss

 

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2022/10/13/trump-ordered-rapid-withdrawal-from-afghanistan-after-election-loss/

The fact is, Joe Biden ended the war despite his military advisers telling him not to.   The withdrawal was an unorganized mess under Joe Biden's leadership. 

7 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

And they all are part of the TRUMP administration, so why did TRUMP posted the lies that he was admitted under Biden presidency>?
And by the way, the one and only reason so many Afghans entered the US is because of TRUMP ordered the withdrawal of all US troopsfrom Afghanistan in 2020

 

Don't tell me you're surprised that trump was easily caught telling lies (again).

It was a messy withdrawal, no one can deny that. But what was the alternative? Stay? And do what, exactly? 

With the lightening speed collapse of the Afghan administration and the Taliban (enemy) victors racing towards the U.S. airbase? 

As for bringing over Afghans who'd collaborated or worked for U.S. and Western forces there, it was the right thing to do. In fact, too many were left behind. There is lots of evidence of that. Should they have abandonded them like the U.S. did to 'South Vietnam' collaborators, translators, workers for U.S. forces?

5 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

Don't tell me you're surprised that trump was easily caught telling lies (again).

Both of and @CallumWK are misinformed. 

 

Officials say Lakanwal came to the U.S. from Afghanistan in 2021 during the Biden administration

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/national-guard-shooting-suspect-vetted-us-granted-asylum/story?id=127930034

Tragic comic 💦 

 

Talking about turning table?

 

A bitter counter-accusation? 

17 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

why did TRUMP posted the lies that he was admitted under Biden presidency>?

Because he was admitted to the US under Biden after Biden's Afganistan withdrawal along with all the others who managed to scramble on to a leaving US plane...it wasn't a lie.  

4 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

“The order was for an immediate withdrawal, and it would have been catastrophic,” said Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill., one of two Republican members of the special panel. “And yet President Trump signed the order.”

And the Biden withdrawal was not catastrophic?   Did you see what happened?  

Just now, TedG said:

The fact is, Biden ordered the final withdrawal.   Here are his comments. 

 

https://bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2021/07/08/remarks-by-president-biden-on-the-drawdown-of-u-s-forces-in-afghanistan/

 

The fact is Biden followed up on the order signed by Trump, because he had no other choice, and Trump's own administration had ignored his orders

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Because he was admitted to the US under Biden after Biden's Afganistan withdrawal along with all the others who managed to scramble on to a leaving US plane...it wasn't a lie.  

 

His asylum was granted under the Trump administration, while they could have denied it and send him back in April

Just now, CallumWK said:

 

The fact is Biden followed up on the order signed by Trump, because he had no other choice, and Trump's own administration had ignored his orders

Biden's military advisors told him not to do it.  He did not listen.   

Posts with derogatory nicknames, intentional misspellings, or personal remarks will be removed. Spell names correctly for all sides of the debate.

Just now, TedG said:

Biden's military advisors told him not to do it.  He did not listen.   

There was an order signed by Trump. What was your preference that US troops would be killed by the Taliban criminals, released under Trump's order?

Just now, CallumWK said:

There was an order signed by Trump. What was your preference that US troops would be killed by the Taliban criminals, released under Trump's order?

And Biden was the Commander-in-Chief when it happened.   He had the power to change the order.  

 

You're arguing for the sake of argument at this point.  

4 minutes ago, TedG said:

And the Biden withdrawal was not catastrophic?   Did you see what happened?  

 

Jst maybe there should have much btter plans awn under trumps watch to effect a much more smooth / safer evacuation?

Buffoon is not a personal remark or misspelling, it is a description of something

14 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

Buffoon is not a personal remark or misspelling, it is a description of something

What are you talking about?

16 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

Jst maybe there should have much btter plans awn under trumps watch to effect a much more smooth / safer evacuation?

Biden was the CIC, he owns the withdrawal.  

38 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

40 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Because he was admitted to the US under Biden after Biden's Afganistan withdrawal along with all the others who managed to scramble on to a leaving US plane...it wasn't a lie.  

 

His asylum was granted under the Trump administration, while they could have denied it and send him back in April

Asylum and hs admission to the US, which is what I was referring to and what you referenced, were two very different things in the circumstnces at the time.  He was allowed to enter the US under Biden.

3 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Asylum and hs admission to the US, which is what I was referring to and what you referenced, were two very different things in the circumstnces at the time.  He was allowed to enter the US under Biden.

 

He could have sent back in April, that is what I was referring to. We are now November.

 

6 hours ago, TedG said:

Your boy Biden ended the war despite his advisors telling him not to.  

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/09/28/top-generals-afghanistan-withdrawal-congress-hearing-514491

 

Your boy negotiated with terrorists and freed the terrorists despite his allies telling him not to. When the United States was formed, Barbary Pirates (terrorists) demanded tribute. The USMC said no, according to the song.

 

He not only negotiated with the Taliban, he congratulated them "You are a tough people and have a great country and I understand that you are fighting for your homeland". WTF. They tried to kill him in 2001. He was all prepared to host cut throats, murderers, thugs at Camp David, on the anniversary of 911. He free 5000 of the most effective fighters the Taliban back onto the battlefield. Men who had murdered American, British, German, Danish and other NATO troops in the name of a Sky Fairy. And let them go, metaphorically patting  them on the back for being Afghan Patriots.

 

No, Trump doesn't get off Scott free with the mess of Afghanistan, and he ultimately bears some responsibility for the actions of a few days ago.

Washington DC Mayor Bowser at press conference:

 

 “These young people should be at home in West Virginia with their families.”

5 hours ago, CallumWK said:

 

He could have sent back in April, that is what I was referring to. We are now November.

 

 

And to be fair, he would have been well known already to the US government, having fought side by side with the US military for 10 years.  As part of NDS03 QSF "Zero-Ones", based at Camp Gecko (they had cheekily taken over the compound of the late Taliban leader, Mullah Omar), he would have had all the biometrics, the psychometrics. He wasn't a random Afghan that snuck onto a crammed  plane in the chaos of Kabul. He was extracted from Afghanistan to Pakistan, and was boarded on a scheduled flight from Islamabad.

 

 

NDS03 was hard core. Rahmanullah was remembered by his  commander as particularly anti-Taliban. After the fall, members of NDS03 were particularly targeted by the Taliban:

https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/07/30/afghanistan-mounting-taliban-revenge-killings

 

https://eu.northjersey.com/story/news/2021/08/28/afghanistan-evacuation-nj-man-raising-money-kabul-airlift/5622766001/

 

 

 

 

Hard core death squads (similar to what operated in Vietnam) strking fear into the Taliban

 

https://theintercept.com/2020/12/18/afghanistan-cia-militia-01-strike-force/

 

 

In this and many other similar stories, we are learning something valuable, if difficult.

 

It is nigh impossible to integrate and assimilate people from stone-age cultures into a modern western secular society. This is not just Afghanis, and not just the USA. Even in ideal circumstances, the language barrier and culture shock must be jarring for the would-be asylum seeker.  It is far better and kinder to relocate them to somewhere that is socially, religiously, and culturally similar to their homelands.