35 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

'Can you point to this doll and tell me where the nasty woman hurt you?' 

In the wallet!

Just now, Harrisfan said:

Asian women are different. The west has ruined women.

You clearly hate women. Just stick with ladyboys. You've had the best results with them. 

6 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

In the wallet!

Lots of western women are miserable. Feminist movement has made them less happy.

Funny how the people pretending to be adults there, project the most and lose it the biggest way 

1 minute ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

Funny how the people pretending to be adults there, lose it the biggest way 

Funny how angry people get.

The answer to his rhetorical question is that people do, all the time. Each person justifies to himself why he took on an Asian partner, rather than one from his own tribe. 

The biggest one is to attack Western women. What they really mean is that they couldn't adapt and got owned.

So they found what they thought was an easier game. One where they could be in control.

Reading between the lines, some are happy with their choices and some are not. Some feel trapped by their choices. But dare to mention it in the open and they'll fly off the handle. The truth will set them free.

It's not just a relationship fantasy. It's all a form of control. Thailand is a bit more natural, a bit more free. But you can see the guys who want to make Thailand a little less natural. They want control. Best they adapt or head back to their own countries.

 

 

6 hours ago, BritManToo said:

True love, marriage and regular sex for men in long term heterosexual relationships as espoused by Hollywood, novels and the public in general.

It doesn't exist in the western world, but nobody questions the fantasy .................

 

Sure you can get the odd bang, but not much after the first 2-3 years in a relationship.

You'd probably get more sex from random one night encounters with random women, than from a LTR with just the one.

But you dare not cohabit or have kids with a woman because she'll invariably take your pension, home assets and future income.

But nobody appears to publicly point this out, and anyone daring to try gets silenced fairly quickly.

 

Almost nobody on this forum has managed to achieve this in the west (that's why we're all here, right?)

And I'll get many thumbs down for pointing this out, even though the thumbs down will come from people that never achieved this 'holy grail'.

You've all either 1) failed to get a women, or 2) succeeded and been divorced and asset stripped.

 

But why deny and hide this truth?

Because it 'sells' to make women and men believe that it is a good thing to do - to get married.  And also because the only and obvious 'solution' to the unspoken problem, is to remove the rights of women to quit/leave and take part of a man's assets and/or wealth.   

 

Back in the 'old days' a woman would put up with a man and stay married - there was no incentive to leave/quit. Nowadays a woman can get angry and annoyed (as they do) and they have a big financial advantage to leave, and many take that path (and are miserable many years later).   

 

Yes - in the old days there was marriages where the man was doing the wrong thing and even violent - but the truth is that they were only a small percentage. However the feminists used them to make all the changes that they have made, thereby making leaving a marriage far too easy and advantageous for women.      

 

3 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Who raped u?

The US legal system! LOL

 

Lady Justice.

7 hours ago, Cameroni said:

I think  these points apply:

 

1) You have to look good naked, if you don't you can't expect her to burn for desire for sex with you

 

2) She and you go into the relationship because both want something, when you both get it, the reason of being for the rel is gone, thus inevitably relationships tend to have sell by dates. Say she wants marriage and kids, when she gets those, what does she need you for now? Not a lot if she has money or a job.

 

3) With dating apps and social media women can date anyone in the world, it's made competition insane.

You are correct and for the younger ones that are good looking, emotionally vulnerable men all over the world will do really really stupid things, to be able to spend some time with them. And that skews the entire picture for normal guys. 

1 hour ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Because it 'sells' to make women and men believe that it is a good thing to do - to get married. 

 

Sells how? 

More real estate? 

 

8 hours ago, BritManToo said:

It doesn't exist in the western world, but nobody questions the fantasy

 

Women will force you into marriage.

It's the only way to get any sex at all. 

Or hookers. But the stigma of hookers in the west will likely ruin your career if you get caught.  

There's not much choice in the matter except stay single and move to SEA when you have enough savings. 

 

9 hours ago, clokwise said:

My (thai) wife and I have talked about this before.

 

She is well educated, outspoken, catwalk-model quality beautiful, and independent minded. Most Thai guys shyed away from her when she was younger, or the guys she was interested in turned out to be of "lower status" than herself and it was evident that it could never be a well balanced relationship. So she moved abroad, and found me.

 

I have never had any interest in western women, and as a horny teenager growing up in a culturally segregated area in the west, this was immensely frustrating. But curiously, and I still don't understand why, western women have never ever shown any interest in me either. I'm 60 now and have never once dated or had sex with a western woman. I'm a nerd, mildly socially awkward, reasonably good looking, but short by western standards (173cm). I'm also highly educated, artistic mind-set, health conscious, I was a successful tech entrepreneur, and retired in my 40s.

 

My wife and I were married within 3 months of our first date. We knew we had found the right partner. We're married 24 years now, living in Thailand, and still in love. We've had ups and downs, but the one thing which keeps us sane is we accidentally (and independently) discovered we both are polyamorous. We both have had side-giks now for well over a decade. Both of our current side partners are also married and in poly relationships. I'm not talking about sex parties, orgies or 3sums, I am talking about genuine emotional relationships.

 

My wife and I talk openly about our side relationships and always work to balance and maintain our primary relationship. It's hard to avoid jealousy, it takes work. It is not something I recommend for everyone, but for us it saved our marriage. And we're both having the best sex of our lives, just not always with each other.

 

Sadly, polyamory is not something we can not discuss openly with our friends and family, particularly amongst Thai people in Thailand. That said, it is no longer surprising to me to meet other couples who are also poly. It's way more common that you might expect.

 

 

Interesting, but I don't believe for one second you both discovered this by accident. Who was the first to cheat? You said you never had sex with a western woman, so you "discovered" this in Thailand?

 

 

Also most Thai men don't shy from Thai women when they are younger. 

 

Really odd post.

22 minutes ago, FlorC said:

Yes you did but you must have read my mind , because I already thought of it before you posted it.

 

You may of thought of it but I live it 😆

2 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

You may of thought of it but I live it 😆

Me too !

11 hours ago, BritManToo said:

True love, marriage and regular sex for men in long term heterosexual relationships as espoused by Hollywood, novels and the public in general.

It doesn't exist in the western world, but nobody questions the fantasy .................

 

Sure you can get the odd bang, but not much after the first 2-3 years in a relationship.

You'd probably get more sex from random one night encounters with random women, than from a LTR with just the one.

But you dare not cohabit or have kids with a woman because she'll invariably take your pension, home assets and future income.

But nobody appears to publicly point this out, and anyone daring to try gets silenced fairly quickly.

 

Almost nobody on this forum has managed to achieve this in the west (that's why we're all here, right?)

And I'll get many thumbs down for pointing this out, even though the thumbs down will come from people that never achieved this 'holy grail'.

You've all either 1) failed to get a women, or 2) succeeded and been divorced and asset stripped.

 

But why deny and hide this truth?

Had loads of women in the West but never married. Got married here and don't have your problem.

8 hours ago, Hummin said:

 

 

 

Cant escape the reality of the forum where there is individuals who find it funny to try as best they can to kill the messenger every time there is something that hits the deep in their soul. 

 

Like talking negative about weed and weed users, as well the spineless negative emotion makers. 

You’re becoming unhinged.   Delusions about multi-nicks and all the rest.

 

Have you considered going back on the Lithium?

14 hours ago, BritManToo said:

True love, marriage and regular sex for men in long term heterosexual relationships as espoused by Hollywood, novels and the public in general.

It doesn't exist in the western world, but nobody questions the fantasy .................

 

Sure you can get the odd bang, but not much after the first 2-3 years in a relationship.

You'd probably get more sex from random one night encounters with random women, than from a LTR with just the one.

But you dare not cohabit or have kids with a woman because she'll invariably take your pension, home assets and future income.

But nobody appears to publicly point this out, and anyone daring to try gets silenced fairly quickly.

 

Almost nobody on this forum has managed to achieve this in the west (that's why we're all here, right?)

And I'll get many thumbs down for pointing this out, even though the thumbs down will come from people that never achieved this 'holy grail'.

You've all either 1) failed to get a women, or 2) succeeded and been divorced and asset stripped.

 

But why deny and hide this truth?

 

Your mistake is the assumption that the failure of the individuals determines the existence of "True Love".   The concept is not deficient. Rather, one or more of the components is. Your logic is like saying that an entire automobile is defective because it  keeps getting flat tires. If the driving surface is inappropriate or the tires poor quality, there will be flat tires. 

 

People's relationships fail for multiple reasons, none of which  has anything to do with "True Love".  Entering into a relationship when inexperienced or too young often does not end well. Financial status and/or an incompatibility of life skills between people are factors etc.  In respect to the  people you reference, the individual deficiencies become even more obvious. If one of the participants is mentally unstable, or a drunk or a bully, it is to be expected that the relationship will break down.

 

Perhaps you are looking for reasons to justify your own an inability to maintain a relationship I don't know. What I do know is that people can and do have true love relationships and many have maintained long term relationships and areas in love today, if not more so, than they were 10 or more years ago. These people rarely broadcast their lives because they are living them, not telling the world how bad they are.

4 hours ago, Celsius said:

Also most Thai men don't shy from Thai women when they are younger. 

 

Really odd post.

 

My thoughts also.

4 hours ago, Airalee said:

You’re becoming unhinged.   Delusions about multi-nicks and all the rest.

 

Have you considered going back on the Lithium?

 

Good thing this is not real life, could had been challenging living in such reality. 

 

And when it comes to drugs, I think there is others than me who should cut back or find better quality. For moist sane, the best thing would be to quit to forum and never come back, but seems the solution is to just start a new nick and continue where they left with the same battles and dirty contributions. 

 

 

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

And when it comes to drugs, I think there is others than me who should cut back or find better quality. For most sane people, the best thing would be to quit the forum and never come back, but it seems the solution is to just start a new nick and continue where they left off with the same battles and dirty contributions. 

 

And when it comes to drugs, I think others should cut back or find better quality. For most sane people, the best thing would be to quit the forum and never come back, but it seems the solution is to start a new nick and continue where they left off with the same battles and dirty contributions.

 

 

I fixed it for you. ^^^^^^^

7 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Your mistake is the assumption that the failure of the individuals determines the existence of "True Love".   The concept is not deficient. Rather, one or more of the components is. Your logic is like saying that an entire automobile is defective because it  keeps getting flat tires. If the driving surface is inappropriate or the tires poor quality, there will be flat tires. 

My friends, family, work mates and neighbours have all suffered in exactly the same way. I only know 2x couples that appeared to love each other until death. One couple she shagged around when he was younger but he forgave her (he's 80+ in a care home with Alzheimer's. The other couple were both on their second marriages (died in their 80s a year or two back).

 

No real 'life long true love' stories at all. 

5 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

My friends, family, work mates and neighbours have all suffered in exactly the same way. I only know 2x couples that appeared to love each other until death. One couple she shagged around when he was younger but he forgave her (he's 80+ in a care home with Alzheimer's. The other couple were both on their second marriages (died in their 80s a year or two back).

 

No real 'life long true love' stories at all. 

The statistic says 50%, and that is pretty good odds if you ask me. However, most marry to early, and most carry to much luggage for the next one, and for the third and 4. many are to hurt and to bitter or at any number, completely wrecked by the first. 

 

Living in the past is not a good thing except learn from it, and move on. Christ sake life continues and you have to option to start over again and again as many times you wish, but at the end, it depended on you and the choices you make, and nobody else. 

 

Blaiming every one else for your life blunders, haven’t helped one single soul on this planet. 

21 minutes ago, TedG said:

 

And when it comes to drugs, I think others should cut back or find better quality. For most sane people, the best thing would be to quit the forum and never come back, but it seems the solution is to start a new nick and continue where they left off with the same battles and dirty contributions.

 

 

I fixed it for you. ^^^^^^^

 

🤔 

 

I guess I should say thank you ? 🙏 

13 minutes ago, Hummin said:

The statistic says 50%, and that is pretty good odds if you ask me. However, most marry to early, and most carry to much luggage for the next one, and for the third and 4. many are to hurt and to bitter or at any number, completely wrecked by the first. 

 

Living in the past is not a good thing except learn from it, and move on. Christ sake life continues and you have to option to start over again and again as many times you wish, but at the end, it depended on you and the choices you make, and nobody else. 

 

Blaiming every one else for your life blunders, haven’t helped one single soul on this planet. 

Odd you claiming all the other posters are trolls.

There's only one poster on this thread causing problems for everyone else.

That troll is the most opinionated, smug, scumbag currently using this forum.

Can you guess who I'm posting about?

11 hours ago, Hummin said:

 

Same as you, I can be anything, but not as sad as you. Must be a little man behind all these new and old nicks 

Off topic,

I would like to point out that public forum members are only allowed one active account at a time.

This is rigorously enforced, and using a second account will be banned in a day or two from opening.

Apart from mods, which are allowed a mod nick and a private nick.

 

A Marriage

By Robert Creeley

 

The first retainer   

he gave to her   

was a golden

wedding ring.

 

The second—late at night   

he woke up,

leaned over on an elbow,   

and kissed her.

 

The third and the last—

he died with

and gave up loving

and lived with her.

9 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Odd you claiming all the other posters are trolls.

There's only one poster on this thread causing problems for everyone else.

That troll is the most opinionated, smug currently using this forum.

Can you guess who I'm posting about?

 

Explain please

 

you guys are allowed to drag everyone down to your level, and when someone answers you guys back with a different opinion, you become labeled as the problem. That’s a good one. 

 

You invite to debate about how terrible women are, and how negative love is, negative life experiences where you assume we all think and feel like you.

 

Getting toxic because someone tells you straight from his mind what he thinks is wrong. Why is it different from what you write on behalf of everyone else? 

 

That’s quite interesting actually

 

Then you guys start elaborating how my life with my wife is, if she is with me or not when travelling behind my back, is also quite amusing. Third one chimes in and saying Im the euro guy who whine about TRump, and all other name calling trying to call me out on the ice. 

 

Fantastic, Im the problem child here 

10 minutes ago, Hummin said:

You invite to debate about how terrible women are, and how negative love, life and expectations between two partner do not match each other, and getting toxic because someone tells you straight from his mind what he thinks? 

No, my thread is about the 'true love for a lifetime' western fantasy.

You're the one that posted women are terrible, I've never said that, in any post, ever.

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

No, my thread is about the 'true love for a lifetime' western fantasy.

You're the one that posted women are terrible, I've never said that, in any post, ever.

 

One simple answer, for those who do not give up the dream about true love, true love exists, while for some others, it dies with first attempt or second attempt. 

 

Is that better? 

21 hours ago, NotEinstein said:

It's the consequence of the protestant strain of western values  run amok. The concept of family as the primary root of life has been atomized in the traditionally protestant nations. Emmanuel Todd's latest book Defeat of the West - Collapse of Power & Values spells it out - https://glenndiesen.substack.com/p/emmanuel-todd-defeat-of-the-west

The business model of substack is to draw in ANYBODY with an opinion.  Let them 'publish' it and hope enough nitwits want to read it so then the author tries to monetize it... and then substack charges a percentage.  TANSTAAFL excepting trash cans.