2 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Did he funnel the bribes through a convoluted web of dozens of LLCs? If so, as you know, it doesn't count as a bribe.🤣

Don't you know that Trump has been using a web of LLCs for decades? 

 

https://businesssuccesselites.com/global-insights/donald-trump-business-empire-2025/

So funny to see MAGAs making up corruption claims against Dems, in order to distract attention from Trump's multiple conflicts of interest! 

13 minutes ago, candide said:

Don't you know that Trump has been using a web of LLCs for decades? 

 

https://businesssuccesselites.com/global-insights/donald-trump-business-empire-2025/

Well it makes sense. If Trump was taking bribes for crafting foreign policy to benefit foreign despots - such as firing a prosecutor looking into corruption at an energy company paying inexplicable huge amounts to Trumps son - well he wouldnt want the money going into his bank account.

You know all this, I know you know because Ive been schooling you on this for many years🤣

 

8 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Well it makes sense. If Trump was taking bribes for crafting foreign policy to benefit foreign despots - such as firing a prosecutor looking into corruption at an energy company paying inexplicable huge amounts to Trumps son - well he wouldnt want the money going into his bank account.

You know all this, I know you know because Ive been schooling you on this for many years🤣

 

The prosecutor was corrupt and not investigating Burisma. The State Dept has been complaining about it for years before he got fired. Already debunked by a GOP led Senate committee and by the Comer/Jordan fake committee! 

 

You know all this, I know you know because Ive been schooling you on this for many years🤣

9 minutes ago, candide said:

The prosecutor was corrupt and not investigating Burisma. The State Dept has been complaining about it for years before ge got fired. Already debunked by a GOP led Senate committee and by the Comer/Jordan fake committee!

 

You know all this, I know you know because Ive been schooling you on this for many years🤣

Yes yes yes. Burisma was paying the Bidens vast amounts of secret money so they could get Burisma investigated harder. You would have to be incredibly dense or dishonest(or both🤣) to believe such nonsense as this. 

 

Fortunately Chanel Rion actually did her homework and interviewed Shokin, who surprise surprise does not make the same nonsensical claims as you. Btw did Maddow, the View, morning Joe bother interviewing Shokin? Oh? I wonder why?🤣

They're not bribes; they are what Republicans call "Traditional Family Values", as in "how much can we make off this pardon?"

 

Binance Chief "CZ" was pardoned despite being convicted for laundering money---what the White House now calls "Biden's war against crypto".

 

Well, the man most deserving of the Nobel Peace Prize has stopped that ^ war. Also, part of the evidence against CZ involved laundering money for Hamas. That, too, falls into Trump's goal of a Peace Prize, as a well-fueled Hamas gives Trump yet another war to end. And I guess in a backhanded way, helping a guy who aided Hamas is kind of ending another war: The War on Terror. Oslo and Stockholm take note.

 

Of course the big payoff comes because Binance does business with World Liberty Financial, the crypto company owned by the Trump Org.

 

David Gentile is good for the Trump brand because---despite swindling investors out of $1.6 billion---Gentile wisely used some of his ill-gotten gain to fund 2024 Republican House and Senate candidates. Grateful as Gentile now must be, he can be expected to donate to Repubs for the midterms, hopefully helping the Repubs to maintain control of the House and allow Trump to not only avoid a 3rd impeachment, but also to continue grifting off Saudi Arabia (3 construction projects for the Trump Org) and maybe even get a superyacht from some princelings to go along with his new B747.

 

Former Honduran President Hernandez has family in south FLorida, so maybe they'll feel obliged to join Mar-a-Lago. Plus, Hernandez still has plenty of ill-gotten gains from his drug and arms running, so he's a potential condo customer.

 

Hey, Trump doesn't call himself "The World's Greatest Dealmaker" for nothing.

10 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Yes yes yes. Burisma was paying the Bidens vast amounts of secret money so they could get Burisma investigated harder. You would have to be incredibly dense or dishonest(or both🤣) to believe such nonsense as this. 

 

Fortunately Chanel Rion actually did her homework and interviewed Shokin, who surprise surprise does not make the same nonsensical claims as you. Btw did Maddow, the View, morning Joe bother interviewing Shokin? Oh? I wonder why?🤣

Blah blah! You have nothing!

 

FD-1023 anyone? 

1 hour ago, connda said:

 

The US presidency is the ultimate to leverage political grift, and from Trump onwards the US office of the President will make millionaire into billionaires, just like the US Congress makes average people into millionaires - virtually one and all. 

Though I agree that all politicians at the national level are very corrupt, I am skeptical as to whether or not future presidents can create billions from the office. Trump has a special kind of talent, he's the ultimate con man, he is not a particularly intelligent man but his skills at grifting is the one aspect of his personality that is pure genius.

 

Don is the ultimate and perfectly crafted criminal. And his ability to conduct his crimes with the support of millions upon millions of devotees is truly astonishing, and kudos to him for getting away with it. 

2 hours ago, connda said:

The US presidency is the ultimate to leverage political grift, and from Trump onwards the US office of the President will make millionaire into billionaires, just like the US Congress makes average people into millionaires - virtually one and all. 

If nothing trickles down to the population, then it's a serious problem.

But the US has a pretty decent standard of living.

And if you're really ambitious and smart, you can be very well off. 

 

56 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Though I agree that all politicians at the national level are very corrupt, I am skeptical as to whether or not future presidents can create billions from the office. Trump has a special kind of talent, he's the ultimate con man, he is not a particularly intelligent man but his skills at grifting is the one aspect of his personality that is pure genius.

 

Don is the ultimate and perfectly crafted criminal. And his ability to conduct his crimes with the support of millions upon millions of devotees is truly astonishing, and kudos to him for getting away with it. 

I agree he has a gift---or better to call it a total lack of morality and character---for grifting, but he needed the power of the Oval Office to actually make it work.

 

In the past, he was just hot air, a failed silver spooner, living off his daddy's money and co-signed loans, but failing in everything from casinos and steak to his airline and fake "university".

 

He made it---all the way to the Oval Office---because Mark Burnett took a look at the IQ Bell Curve, saw how big the left side was, and knew he could appeal to the intellectually challenged by taking Trump's endless and silly hyperbole and self-promotion, and turn it into a game show. That made Trump more than a NYC joke. It got him the attention of the lesser intellects in society, which is to say, an Electoral College-winning majority.

 

Now that Trump has actual authority, and a gaggle of Carnival People in his Administration to bless his every corrupt wish, he can leverage his position for personal financial gain. Only morons think guys like Bezos and Zuckerberg and even Musk actually like Trump. Even most Republican Senators think he's a child and a clown, but he does have authority. He can help or hurt businesses that need government approval or contracts or favorable laws. He can get any non-sycophantic Senator or House member primaried. The elite still laugh at him, as did all the NYC real estate developers, but they'll suck up and play along so long as it benefits them or keeps them out of trouble.

 

So in this disaster of the great American Experiment, which likely has the Founders rolling over in their graves, much can be laid on Mark Burnett, who---like Roger Ailes who developed Fox News---knew how dumb the average American is and how easily fooled they are. We can see it even on Forums, as the cult do not evidence any sort of intellect that would place them even at the mean, much less to the right of it on the Bell Curve.

 

Trump said it himself two months ago: "Smart people don't like me"....perhaps the first honest thing he's ever said.

I think crypto is a bad word in the WH/MAL today

 

The 26-Minute, 51% Wipeout That Deepened Trumps’ Crypto Woes

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-12-03/down-90-or-more-trump-family-assets-are-outpacing-crypto-crash

 

 

3 minutes ago, Wingate said:

and fake "university".

A lot of real universities have fake programs just taking money from kids.

Like sociology and other bs programs. 

 

2 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

A lot of real universities have fake programs just taking money from kids.

Like sociology and other bs programs. 

 

That is some Trumpian Whataboutism!

 

A pair of Golden Sneakers and an autographed Trump bible for you!

10 minutes ago, Wingate said:

perhaps the first honest thing he's ever said.

Still waiting for your 1st🤣

4 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Still waiting for your 1st🤣

Cute, and with all the imagination one would expect from a MAGA, which is to say none.

 

With each passing day, it is abundantly clear that Trump's base owns the territory left of the mean on the IQ Bell Curve.

 

Stake out your ground, put up your flag, and embrace abject mediocrity. Not everybody can be a winner. For the time being, the world still needs janitors and truck drivers.

7 hours ago, candide said:

So funny to see MAGAs making up corruption claims against Dems, in order to distract attention from Trump's multiple conflicts of interest! 

Just this week President Trump claimed 300 million Americans died from drugs last year.

The entire population of the United States is only 340 million. I think we'd have noticed.

8 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

If you have evidence, please present it or share it with the FBI.

Why? Official acts from the president can not be prosecuted according to the SC.

11 hours ago, marin said:

Sums up a Trump supporter. Sad at what has happened now that grifting is accepted by some American voters. Little knowledge of democracy

democracy??? putting a presidential candidate in place instead of being selected by the people.   that kind a of democracy??

 

11 hours ago, JTXR said:

The short answer is yes.  And he doesn't need to hide it.  The meme coins he's set up allow anyone to buy them, funneling the money to him in a way that for now is not against any law.  

 

Is that the definition of a bribe in your dictionary? 

 

Trump or no Trump is far from the point. 

 

The real goons are those in their flashy cashmere suits, seated on top of the food chain ladder in major multinationals, banks or political lobbys in parliaments. Any president in office,  is plainly a puppet of these major players. 

 

But the woke leftist medias would rather make absurd fuss against the Donald or against the tech giants instead. Not saying they are angels, but society is drifting away from where the real crooks are. 

 

10 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

It is very likely and it would be very consistent with his criminal history, his personality, and his extreme levels of moral bankruptcy. My guess is he's probably getting 25 to 50 million dollars per pardon from ultra rich men who are totally guilty. He can relate to their guilt as that's who and what he is. 

 

The law and order president? That would be funny if so many well-intentioned people did not actually believe it. 

yes, the law and order president... He's doing what should have been done already but the Dems ignored and actually encouraged people to break laws.  

 

Whereas shoplifting laws were changed in some cities to protect the shoplifter not the store owners. Drugs are illegal but they handed out free needles etc.

An illegal immigrant gets caught by the police for doing something else and they wont even notify immigration officials that an illegal immigrant is in custody.

Not letting your police to work with the federal government to enforce rules.  (US federal law is the supreme law)

 

Law and order is sending in the national guard to cities to enforce laws because some cities believe only some laws should be enforced. 

The illegal boarder crossings have been greatly reduced (about 97%). 

 

you're sitting in another country retired thinking it's ok for illegal immigrants to stay and live in the USA. I assume you think like that because it doesn't affect you. 

 

one example:

Healthcare payments are an issue with people showing up at the emergency room (car accident, bad fall etc.) Not legally in the country and no health insurance, car insurance etc.

They get care and the bill never gets paid.  I work with two medical billing companies and both have told me this many times. They cant track down illegal immigrants to get the bill paid. Why because there are no consequences if it's not paid.   No wage deduction (because you cant find them) if you do find them they are working off the books. So in the end the US taxpayer is paying it as it's written off on their taxes as a loss.

 

Please explain to me why it's ok for someone to illegally enter a country to work and live there.

 

 

 

 

 

11 hours ago, connda said:

Burisma in Ukraine - $$$Cha-Ching$$$ the Biden Family Dynasty. 

It's not just the Left.  It's everyone in US politics bar none. 

 

So what is "...- $$$Cha-Ching$$$ the Biden Family Dynasty."

Please share some facts re "..the Biden Family Dynasty".

 

24 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

 

"...guess you haven't spoken to university kids lately.  They are all taking stuff like this instead of Engineering, Medical etc...."

 

What is "..stuff ike this..".

did you watch the video???  As stated classes like "scout" who prefers to be called "they / them" are taking.  

How are you going to get a job when you study nonsense that has no real value in life. Her only job will be teaching in schools.

I certainly wouldn't want this person teaching my kids. 

 

Decolonizing Academia?

Decolonization in academia refers to the process of dismantling deeply ingrained colonial philosophies, ideologies, and structures that came over on ships even before the Mayflower. The push for decolonization in academia is not only necessary, but urgent to create more inclusive, diverse, and equitable educational spaces.

 

 It is an effort to recognize the damage done and make repairs to damaged structures. The damage is acknowledged by critiquing and revising academic practices, curricula focusing on Western ideologies, and methodologies that have been shaped by colonial perspectives. The damage is repaired by centering the voices of those historically marginalized and further promoting approaches to education that recognize the value of indigenous, local, and non-Western ways of learning and teaching. 

 

 

3 hours ago, stevenl said:

Why? Official acts from the president can not be prosecuted according to the SC.

 

Have you read the decision? Prosecution is not restricted to criminal acts.  Bribery is considered an act that is dealt with by the term "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" and is an impeachable offence. An impeachment is a prosecution by the legislature with the penalty the loss of office.  This is considered a constitutional remedy for presidential corruption. The comment by Judge Roberts in the SCOTUS ruling indicates that post impeachment criminal prosecution is not necessarily excluded.

And so ends todays anti Trump rant, Can;t wait to see tomorrows 

9 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Have you read the decision? Prosecution is not restricted to criminal acts.  Bribery is considered an act that is dealt with by the term "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" and is an impeachable offence. An impeachment is a prosecution by the legislature with the penalty the loss of office.  This is considered a constitutional remedy for presidential corruption. The comment by Judge Roberts in the SCOTUS ruling indicates that post impeachment criminal prosecution is not necessarily excluded.

I know that even if there's proof he took bribes, nothing will come of it.

2 hours ago, stevenl said:

I know that even if there's proof he took bribes, nothing will come of it.

 

Your reasoning is no different than that of the nutters who see a conspiracy every time a decision is  given that they disagree with.  First you  wrote, 

 

16 hours ago, stevenl said:

Why? Official acts from the president can not be prosecuted according to the SC.

 

When the Constitutional remedy is provided, you come back  "nothing will come of it".  The US House  voted to impeach in Term 1 and had the Senate voted yes too, Mr. Trump would have been sent away. Nothing is predictable in US politics. 

4 hours ago, stevenl said:

I know that even if there's proof he took bribes, nothing will come of it.

You're darned right there. After your Burisma clusterbang Presidential bribery is effectively legalized.

2 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Your reasoning is no different than that of the nutters who see a conspiracy every time a decision is  given that they disagree with.  First you  wrote, 

 

 

When the Constitutional remedy is provided, you come back  "nothing will come of it".  The US House  voted to impeach in Term 1 and had the Senate voted yes too, Mr. Trump would have been sent away. Nothing is predictable in US politics. 

This is all very predictable.

And no, you did not provide the constitutional remedy, you provided your interpretation. A discussion of which is pointless.

8 hours ago, stevenl said:

This is all very predictable.

And no, you did not provide the constitutional remedy, you provided your interpretation. A discussion of which is pointless.

No, that was not my interpretation, but a recitation of the existing process. The use of impeachment is the remedy and it has been applied previously. It was applied to Clinton and then to Trump. The only thing predictable is your political agenda. You invented  an outcome that supported your biased view.