10 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

But what democratic countries go to such orwellian lengths as this proposal would establish?

 

What's more you repeatedly evade the issue of who exactly the government plans to exclude if this proposal is adopted. You claimed it's meant for "disruptive" individuals.  Where is your evidence that disruptive individuals are the only target? 

You'd be the first on any list I made!

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Numbers of comedians, political commentators and journalists have frequently made very direct and explicit accusations of Trump being a rapist and/or a pedophile, often expressing a willingness to defend their accusations in court.

 

 

 

 

I am only aware of that clown previously mentioned who's defamatory lies caused his network to cough up $15m smackers.

 Who are the other lying defamers you speak of? He needs to sue all these spreaders of defamatory misinformation. He would have a field day if he read this forum, wouldn't he😅

 

Im guessing none of those you mentioned had an issue with an old guy feeling up and arousing his young daughter in the shower leading to her living a sad life of sex/drug addiction. So clearly they are not lying and defaming him from any moral stance 🤣

 

5 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I think it's entirely sensible.

Why let people in your country that hate you?

Surely a more sensible line of thought is to ask why people would hate your country and share their thoughts on social media? 

7 hours ago, Smokin Joe said:

 

Maybe so the liberal scumbags they are arresting can't spit in their face. 

Gee, you've got that armchair warrior thing going on.

 

Lots of Combat Ribbons, have you?

 

Or bone spurs, like your messiah?

 

If some fascist righty MAGA terrorist can beat and bear spray Capitol Police, defecate on the floor, and search for the Vice President to hang him.....and then get pardoned by the traitor who sent them to the Capitol, I'm not sure what any of those "liberals" could do which is worse.

 

250 years of better people than you working to push the great American Experiment to whatever heights it might reach was put in jeopardy by those fascist moronic MAGAs. Those of us who served know who is the bad guy, and know his cult are the bad guys,

9 minutes ago, Palatus said:

Surely a more sensible line of thought is to ask why people would hate your country and share their thoughts on social media? 

Not a sensible thought at all.

The have nots will always envy and hate the haves.

10 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I think it's entirely sensible.

Why let people in your country that hate you?

I agree.  If you're a US citizen in the US, you can criticise your government etc.  But a foreigner?  No way.

 

In any case, as a foreigner in Thailand, try publically criticising the government or 'another' person and see how far that gets you....

Its a ridiculous idea (10 years of emails, family and friends names etc etc) to get a tourist visa thought up by Trump sycophants to deal with next years World Cup football that will see many countries visiting. With rip off stadium and hotel fees, and this BS no one will travel to what is becoming a shthole country of its own. It won't happen.

3 minutes ago, simon43 said:

But a foreigner?  No way.

A bit like Trump talking about the Mayor Of London you mean?

[I]t does not follow, because aliens are not parties to the Con-
stitution, as citizens are parties to it, that whilst they actually 
conform to it, they have no right to its protection. Aliens are 
not more parties to the laws, than they are parties to the Con-
stitution; yet it will not be disputed, that as they owe, on one 
hand, a temporary obedience, they are entitled, in return, to 
their protection and advantageP

Next class there's going to be a multiple-choice test. And if you don't get a passing grade on this one, I'm afraid I'm going to have to fail you for the semester.

12 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

A bit like Trump talking about the Mayor Of London you mean?

But we Londoners all agree with Donald!

20 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

You'd be the first on any list I made!

Well, you would have no worries from any list I made. I would allow even the incorrigibly ignorant free passage.

10 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

But we Londoners all agree with Donald!

Of course they do. Which is why Sadiq Khan is mayor. I may have to rethink the admission standards for my list.

22 minutes ago, simon43 said:

I agree.  If you're a US citizen in the US, you can criticise your government etc.  But a foreigner?  No way.

 

In any case, as a foreigner in Thailand, try publically criticising the government or 'another' person and see how far that gets you....

As James Madison, the man behind the first amendment noted, if  foreigners owe obedience to the laws of the United States,  then they are also entitled to the protections of the Constitution.

17 hours ago, bannork said:

It will be "mandatory" to hand over the information, and other details - including email addresses and telephone numbers used in the last five years, as well as the names, addresses, numbers, and birthdays of family members - will also be required.

That is going to take quite a long time per tourist. And who is going to train the Imm Officers (?) what to look for? 

32 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I am only aware of that clown previously mentioned who's defamatory lies caused his network to cough up $15m smackers.

 Who are the other lying defamers you speak of? He needs to sue all these spreaders of defamatory misinformation. He would have a field day if he read this forum, wouldn't he😅

 

Im guessing none of those you mentioned had an issue with an old guy feeling up and arousing his young daughter in the shower leading to her living a sad life of sex/drug addiction. So clearly they are not lying and defaming him from any moral stance 🤣

 

Right. Trump had a  pretty much unbroken history of failed defamation lawsuits until he became president of the United States for a second term and then made it clear he would use his powers to damage people and businesses who opposed him. ABC made the correct business decision, giving their exposure to government regulation. 

16 hours ago, blaze master said:

 

Lots of law enforcement in canada dress similar. Saw some OPP exercises a few weeks ago and not an id in sight other than police on their backs.  There must of been 20 to 30 unmarked cars and dozens of unidentified officers all dressed in military gear. Only the one car was identifiable. Pic doesnt show how many were there. Best I could do walking by. 

 

Just like ice.

Did they act the same as ICE?

 

9 minutes ago, jvs said:

Did they act the same as ICE?

 

 

Yes.

3 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

Yes.

I doubt that very much! Do you have any links to show us?

 

2 minutes ago, jvs said:

I doubt that very much! Do you have any links to show us?

 

 

Up to you. No. Cue npc response.......

25 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Right. Trump had a  pretty much unbroken history of failed defamation lawsuits until he became president of the United States for a second term and then made it clear he would use his powers to damage people and businesses who opposed him. ABC made the correct business decision, giving their exposure to government regulation. 

Here you go again. That is just plain false.

He has sued media outlets/personalities for defamation because they KNOWINGLY LIED about him(such as George S) and because they INTENTIONALLY EDITTED TO TOTALLY CHANGE THE MEANING OF WHAT HE SAID TO MAKE HIM LOOK BAD( such as the uk state propaganda outlet the BBC) - not because they "opposed him".

Why is accurately phrasing anything to do with Trump so difficult for the Trump haters?

28 minutes ago, Will Iam Not said:

That is going to take quite a long time per tourist. And who is going to train the Imm Officers (?) what to look for? 

I'd suggest they start by a broad search using AI for terms and phrases the irrational haters and defamers use and have a deep dive(starting of with full cavity searches) if any of these are found.

I'd suggest kicking off by looking at combinations of words/phrases like

 

Dotard

Donnie

Maggat

Mar a Lardo

TACO

Bone spurs

Rape

Orange orifice/cheeto hitler/ any of the cute nicknames the haters use

 

And then they know they have found an enemy of democracy that is coming to the US to engage in divisive/illegal behavior and to spread misinformation so of course they should not be welcomed in.

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Numbers of comedians, political commentators and journalists have frequently made very direct and explicit accusations of Trump being a rapist and/or a pedophile, often expressing a willingness to defend their accusations in court.

So has a judge during a civil trial he lost for sexual assault.

1 hour ago, Wingate said:

Gee, you've got that armchair warrior thing going on.

 

Lots of Combat Ribbons, have you?

 

Or bone spurs, like your messiah?

 

If some fascist righty MAGA terrorist can beat and bear spray Capitol Police, defecate on the floor, and search for the Vice President to hang him.....and then get pardoned by the traitor who sent them to the Capitol, I'm not sure what any of those "liberals" could do which is worse.

 

250 years of better people than you working to push the great American Experiment to whatever heights it might reach was put in jeopardy by those fascist moronic MAGAs. Those of us who served know who is the bad guy, and know his cult are the bad guys,

 

I'm sure my 20 years of service were much more meaningful then your couple of years as an admin clerk.

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

But we Londoners all agree with Donald!

Odd then that Khan keeps winning elections in London.

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Here you go again. That is just plain false.

He has sued media outlets/personalities for defamation because they KNOWINGLY LIED about him(such as George S) and because they INTENTIONALLY EDITTED TO TOTALLY CHANGE THE MEANING OF WHAT HE SAID TO MAKE HIM LOOK BAD( such as the uk state propaganda outlet the BBC) - not because they "opposed him".

Why is accurately phrasing anything to do with Trump so difficult for the Trump haters?

Whatever the truth or falseness of your characterizations, the fact is out of all the defamation suits the filed before his second term he only one won. And that was because the defendant didn't show up in court.

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I'd suggest they start by a broad search using AI for terms and phrases the irrational haters and defamers use and have a deep dive(starting of with full cavity searches) if any of these are found.

I'd suggest kicking off by looking at combinations of words/phrases like

 

Dotard

Donnie

Maggat

Mar a Lardo

TACO

Bone spurs

Rape

Orange orifice/cheeto hitler/ any of the cute nicknames the haters use

 

And then they know they have found an enemy of democracy that is coming to the US to engage in divisive/illegal behavior and to spread misinformation so of course they should not be welcomed in.

Especially if they start spreading misinformation like the 2020 elections were stolen.

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I'd suggest they start by a broad search using AI for terms and phrases the irrational haters and defamers use and have a deep dive(starting of with full cavity searches) if any of these are found.

I'd suggest kicking off by looking at combinations of words/phrases like

 

Dotard

Donnie

Maggat

Mar a Lardo

TACO

Bone spurs

Rape

Orange orifice/cheeto hitler/ any of the cute nicknames the haters use

 

And then they know they have found an enemy of democracy that is coming to the US to engage in divisive/illegal behavior and to spread misinformation so of course they should not be welcomed in. 

They should appoint you the fact chequer.

Just now, Alan Zweibel said:

They should appoint you the fact chequer.

Cult members are impervious to facts.

15 hours ago, Jingthing said:

My advice to foreigners is to boycott dystopian fascist white nationalist ruled America unless and until that movement crumbles. Obviously if you need to travel to the U.S. or buy U.S. preducts for some important reason, that's different, but that's my general advice. The majority of Americans DO NOT support what's going on now!

This appears quite a useful, free little boycotting tool - https://madeometer.com/

20 hours ago, bannork said:

Your country is not a nation of law and order. Ice agents running rampant with no identity. 

Under Trump the US is an authoritarian regime with only one friend, Putin.

And has an administration who have publicly declared their hatred for trump.....so how come these retards are running the show??