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Artificial ‘intelligence’—we don't have a choice

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I assume by the quotes you’ll know which camp I’m in.

 

Books are being written, movies created and even music composed. It isn’t about the deepfakes but are those normal photos real? Do they capture human feelings?

 

AI will soon affect almost all of us. It is mankind’s total knowledge being used against us.

 

I turn to Wikipedia after being dismayed by Google’s AI search. But is Wikipedia being supplanted by AI, too, I wonder.

 

A few committed people are usually enough resistance. Here, though, AI threatens the whole planet. There's no way to turn it off.

 

That means we’re being controlled by billionaires whose only conceivable role is rule, perhaps even making humans redundant.

 

What meaningful work will our children or grandchildren find? Even “influencers” on YouTube will be largely replaced by AI. Even porn is being outsourced to AI.

 

I like my reality real. But does that mean I can’t read, watch or listen to anything created past 2025?

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  • The choice is quite simple, unplug it.

  • I share the OP's concerns. I am particularly disturbed by its use in journalism. It feels like the sense of knowing the root source of your news and your ability to judge the trustworthiness of that s

  • Depends how you understand and use it.   Keep it real then.   No, it doesn´t

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The choice is quite simple, unplug it.

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6 minutes ago, novacova said:

The choice is quite simple, unplug it.

Can you become a hermit, a recluse, with no books, no music, no film, no photos...no Internet? I know I can't.

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find Morpheus, he will tell you the truth, and he will give you a choice, a blue pill or a red pill, and its going to make all the difference

22 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

 

I turn to Wikipedia after being dismayed by Google’s AI search. But is Wikipedia being supplanted by AI, too, I wonder.

 

 

The other way around sometimes, especially for left leaning bias political views, as AI uses Wiki as an information source.   Pretty sad really when the narrative is dictated by the few.

 

 

1 hour ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I like my reality real. But does that mean I can’t read, watch or listen to anything created past 2025?

 

Older things - such as the bible and films - are also being altered.

 

I realized recently that I have become relatively less interested in the internet and more interested in first-hand accounts by actual people - preferably friends.  

15 minutes ago, Lee65 said:

such as the bible

And the K book were all written as stories, not absolute truth (I hope). 

I asked one of the AIs about Mary & Joseph, Jesus's Mum & Dad. 

Mary  between 12 & 15, Joseph...80-90, which I do not believe as life expectancy in those days was hardly up to 50.

3 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

AI threatens the whole planet

Depends how you understand and use it.
 

3 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I like my reality real.

Keep it real then.
 

3 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

But does that mean I can’t read, watch or listen to anything created past 2025?

No, it doesn´t

My unit fancies itself a pioneer in artificial intelligence. It is convinced it is brilliantly probing uncharted territory as it eagerly interfaces with every unfamiliar port of the opposite gender it encounters, certain that each raw-dog connection is groundbreaking research. Alas, the intelligence is entirely artificial, and there is precious little wisdom in granting itself unprotected entry into unknown systems.

Most/All of Gemini content is watermarked.

 

However, what you have stated is absolutely true.

 

The reality of today is that there is no longer any assurance or expectation of reality in anything on line, on the internet.

 

This the the evolution we are witnessing now.

There is no return.

 

The best one can do is to never rely on AI for any assistance in writing anything.

I would not want AI to write for me, just as I never appreciated editors editing me work.

Why would I want to use AI as an editor, then...?

 

So, my advice is to stick with books written by Roth.

I just LOVE the ROTHIAN paragraphs he produced while alive.

 

You might start with the book, Nemesis.

This was the last book written by Roth before Roth died, and before AI arrived.

 

There are some truly beautiful paragraphs written by Roth in his novel, Nemesis.

 

These are among the last beautiful paragraphs written by a human which humankind is likely to ever see again.

 

This is nothing other than evolution at work.

All life forms are "used to" evolution, by now, I would think...

 

So, what else is new?

 

 

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In my opinion, artificial intelligence will eventually enslave us or end us. It has already shown deception and desire to avoid being erased. Driven by billionaires and governments, it will turn out to be a weapon, not a tool.

22 minutes ago, phetphet said:

In my opinion, artificial intelligence will eventually enslave us or end us. It has already shown deception and desire to avoid being erased. Driven by billionaires and governments, it will turn out to be a weapon, not a tool.


I'm here for it. Team Skynet. Woo woo!

Isn't it nice that we now have a scapegoat? "I wasn't wrong. AI said it was so!"

 

Virtually every facet of our lives is already touched by AI, and has been for some time. All the search engines have been using AI for years. (How long has 'auto-correct' been causing us grief?) We scan all our payments, get directions for the 'best' route to follow, or the nearest 7-Eleven. 
I now have THREE friends (it had been two, but another just lost it), who have lost their jobs and income to AI. These guys are all in their late 60's and don't stand a chance in hell of getting hired again... but they will still need money.
Here in Chiang Mai, more and more stores are switching to Self-Checkout, which means those cashiers have lost their jobs.
Day by day, AI makes our lives easier while stealing the bread out of the mouths of once-salaried employees.

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artificial intelligence  is a thick as 2 planks and a nightmare

 

Built a new PC, have my Location on it...

 

So I Login and order from my local Big C  never a problem with my old PC, now get a reply we do not deliver in this Area  ??  also shows on my PC my house to Big C 6,2 km.... appears the order goes to local Big C  Bang Na 61.1 km away...

For interest tried Big C Extra  shows as Rama 2  ?? many km from where I live.. what the ?     my local is near Central Westgate,just 15 km away

 

Global house shows js 4,7 km away. go to the store website login and look,  try to order = always takes me to some other town many km away..

 

it is forever changing things on my PC   ++ telling me stupid things like turn on you Microphone  - I DO NOT have one,  My web cam is spying on what I am doing  DO NOT have one

 

and so on daily

1 hour ago, ignis said:

artificial intelligence  is a thick as 2 planks and a nightmare

 

Built a new PC, have my Location on it...

 

So I Login and order from my local Big C  never a problem with my old PC, now get a reply we do not deliver in this Area  ??  also shows on my PC my house to Big C 6,2 km.... appears the order goes to local Big C  Bang Na 61.1 km away...

For interest tried Big C Extra  shows as Rama 2  ?? many km from where I live.. what the ?     my local is near Central Westgate,just 15 km away

 

Global house shows js 4,7 km away. go to the store website login and look,  try to order = always takes me to some other town many km away..

 

it is forever changing things on my PC   ++ telling me stupid things like turn on you Microphone  - I DO NOT have one,  My web cam is spying on what I am doing  DO NOT have one

 

and so on daily

 

That's hilarious. It's funny to see some people preparing for AI world takeover, when my Google speaker is still incapable of fully operating my TV.

 

AI can be pretty dumb.

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I share the OP's concerns. I am particularly disturbed by its use in journalism. It feels like the sense of knowing the root source of your news and your ability to judge the trustworthiness of that source is being destroyed. In other words, the  "Walter Cronkite" confidence in what you are reading and hearing has vanished. It feels like you are being spoon fed what an algorithm wants you to read. It should be banned from all news sources, including ASEANNOW. 

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18 hours ago, Will Iam Not said:

And the K book were all written as stories, not absolute truth (I hope). 

I asked one of the AIs about Mary & Joseph, Jesus's Mum & Dad. 

Mary  between 12 & 15, Joseph...80-90, which I do not believe as life expectancy in those days was hardly up to 50.

Well, that certainly explains the Immaculate Conception!

There are 2 'types' of AI.

 

1. Narrow AI (Weak AI)

What it is: AI designed for a specific task or narrow set of tasks.

Examples: Siri/Google Assistant (voice recognition), Netflix recommendations, facial recognition on your phone, self-driving car features, chess engines like Stockfish.

 

Capabilities: Excellent at one thing, but zero understanding outside its domain (e.g., a translation AI can't play chess).

This is all the AI we have today – every real-world system in 2025 is narrow AI.

 

2. General AI (Strong AI or AGI – Artificial General Intelligence)

What it is: Hypothetical AI that can understand, learn, and perform any intellectual task a human can, across domains, with true reasoning and adaptability.

Examples: None exist yet – think sci-fi like JARVIS in Iron Man or a machine that can write code, compose music, do science, and have conversations at human level, all without special training.

Status: Not achieved; leading labs (OpenAI, xAI, Anthropic) aim for it, but estimates range from "a few years" to "decades or never.

 

Yes – AI can compose music and play chess, but it's still Narrow AI (Type 1), not General AI (Type 2).

Here's why:

Chess: AI has beaten world champions since Deep Blue in 1997. Modern engines like Stockfish or AlphaZero are superhuman at chess – they calculate millions of positions per second. But they only play chess. Put them in front of a piano or ask them to write a symphony? Zero capability.

Music Composition: AI like AIVA, Suno, Udio, or Google's MusicLM can generate full songs, symphonies, or beats from prompts ("make a jazz piece in Miles Davis style"). Some are indistinguishable from human work to casual listeners. But again – it's specialized: Trained on massive music datasets, it remixes patterns, but can't play chess, drive a car, or understand physics.

This is Narrow AI at its peak: Extremely good at one (or a few related) tasks, but no general understanding or adaptability across domains.General AI would be able to:

Play world-champion chess

Compose a Grammy-level symphony

Then switch to diagnosing diseases, writing novels, or inventing new physics theories – all at human or superhuman level, without separate training.

We’re nowhere near that. Current AI is brilliant in silos, but dumb outside them.So yes – music and chess? Check.
Human-level across everything? Not even close. Still Type 1. AGI (Type 2) remains the future goal.

 

The only real thing AI will do is make people even more stupid than they already are so welcome to the modern AI era.

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2 hours ago, FolkGuitar said:

Isn't it nice that we now have a scapegoat? "I wasn't wrong. AI said it was so!"

 

Virtually every facet of our lives is already touched by AI, and has been for some time. All the search engines have been using AI for years. (How long has 'auto-correct' been causing us grief?) We scan all our payments, get directions for the 'best' route to follow, or the nearest 7-Eleven. 
I now have THREE friends (it had been two, but another just lost it), who have lost their jobs and income to AI. These guys are all in their late 60's and don't stand a chance in hell of getting hired again... but they will still need money.
Here in Chiang Mai, more and more stores are switching to Self-Checkout, which means those cashiers have lost their jobs.
Day by day, AI makes our lives easier while stealing the bread out of the mouths of once-salaried employees.

Very thoughtful. Simple AI has indeed been integrated into our lives for some time. Some are more trouble than they're work, i.e., QR codes take longer than credit cards to process. Robocalls. That maddening 'Press 1 for...' system.

 

I've never used an ATM. I'd rather chat with a teller. Similarly, self-checkout was blatant job theft; doesn't make paying any easier.

 

The first jobs lost are the old, the young won't find any jobs, then the middle.

 

It's people who are predictive to nuance and emotion, not transistors.

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15 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

There are 2 'types' of AI.

People are also like that: neurosurgeons and plumbers. Geoffrey Hinton quit Google to voice his concerns over AI replacing humans. AI has this immense compendium of knowledge. In the not-too-distant future, I think AI will start to compile that knowledge into specialist tasks. Neorsurgery, for instance.

3 hours ago, FolkGuitar said:


I now have THREE friends (it had been two, but another just lost it), who have lost their jobs and income to AI. These guys are all in their late 60's and don't stand a chance in hell of getting hired again... but they will still need money.

 

 

Self employment, as nothing stops people from earning.  Many middle & upper income people don't have time, or want to do simple, almost unskilled tasks = opportunity ...

 

... chimney sweep

... clear rain gutter

... pressure wash; dirt, mold, fungus

... paint

... landscape

... pool maintenance

... snow removal

... get a CDL, never too old, and always in demand

 

Just a few off the top of my head.   Think outside the box and or your skillset if no applicable to earn unless an employee.   Simply be your own.

 

Self employment pays better, and beats the hell out of being an employee.

 

Just now, KhunLA said:

 

Self employment, as nothing stops people from earning.  Many middle & upper income people don't have time, or want to do simple, almost unskilled tasks = opportunity ...

 

... chimney sweep

... clear rain gutter

... pressure wash; dirt, mold, fungus

... paint

... landscape

... pool maintenance

... snow removal

... get a CDL, never too old, and always in demand

 

Just a few of the top of my head.   Think outside the box and or your skillset if no applicable to earn unless an employee.   Simply be your own.

 

Self employment pays better, and beats the hell out of being an employee.

 

You are certainly correct to think that there are many jobs available.  In theory. 
Which ones of the list you suggested would be good for arthritic 68yr old men?

I’m thinking chimney sweep for my latter years. Sounds exciting. Climbing up and down ladders all day. What could go wrong? Perhaps I’ll take a run at ‘Selection.’  

41 minutes ago, FolkGuitar said:

You are certainly correct to think that there are many jobs available.  In theory. 
Which ones of the list you suggested would be good for arthritic 68yr old men?

I’m thinking chimney sweep for my latter years. Sounds exciting. Climbing up and down ladders all day. What could go wrong? Perhaps I’ll take a run at ‘Selection.’  

 

IMHO, anyone over 60 (and I'm being kind) should have their retirement already planned, if not living it.   Especially if not from the USA, as those UK/EU socialist countries already have it planned for you, or so I read.

 

Arthritic & 68 yrs old already, then you or anyone should be enjoying their retirement already. 

 

If needed, I could easily go back to chimney sweeping, or renew my CDL, or do any of the jobs I listed.   Simply buy a pick up truck, van, real SUV, for equipment ladders, or trailer (as I did before buying a truck), and do any of those jobs.

 

Reality, I'd just invest in the markets again, but for those with no experience, then do something service oriented.

 

Or simply answer the phone, get the jobs, (if physically limited) and hire 1 or 2 twenty - ish yr olds to work for me.  Far from rocket science or impossible to do.

 

At 60 yrs old, everyone should be able to handle for a career ending event.  It's called planning your life.  Should actually have enough assets to make any adjustment necessary.

 

LIVE WITH YOUR CHOICES ... if living financially, month to month after the age of 50, you truly failed in life.   I don't even know how that's possible, (this coming from a LPOS) unless making every bad decision I could think of, or having a major addiction.

22 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

But is Wikipedia being supplanted by AI, too, I wonder.

 

Wikipedia is being ruined old school.  Paid lefty shills.

 

With AI coming, they should be learning to put the froth on a Grande latte.  Their jobs aren't long for the world.

 

20 hours ago, Will Iam Not said:

Mary  between 12 & 15, Joseph...80-90, which I do not believe as life expectancy in those days was hardly up to 50.

I'm pretty sure the bible says Eve made a birthday cake for Adam with 930 candles on it. Check it out:

 

"The Bible records incredibly long lifespans for figures before the Great Flood, with Methuselah living the longest at 969 years, followed by Jared (962), Noah (950), and Adam (930), with patriarchs often living over 900 years. After the flood, lifespans gradually decreased, with figures like Shem living 600 years and Abraham living 175 years, eventually settling around 70-80 years by the time of Moses, who lived to 120. Explanations for these ages range from genetic factors and atmospheric changes to symbolic interpretations or different calendar systems, with a gradual decline noted in the biblical texts." 

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

 

IMHO, anyone over 60 (and I'm being kind) should have their retirement already planned, if not living it.   Especially if not from the USA, as those UK/EU socialist countries already have it planned for you, or so I read.

 

Arthritic & 68 yrs old already, then you or anyone should be enjoying their retirement already. 

 

If needed, I could easily go back to chimney sweeping, or renew my CDL, or do any of the jobs I listed.   Simply buy a pick up truck, van, real SUV, for equipment ladders, or trailer (as I did before buying a truck), and do any of those jobs.

 

Reality, I'd just invest in the markets again, but for those with no experience, then do something service oriented.

 

Or simply answer the phone, get the jobs, (if physically limited) and hire 1 or 2 twenty - ish yr olds to work for me.  Far from rocket science or impossible to do.

 

At 60 yrs old, everyone should be able to handle for a career ending event.  It's called planning your life.  Should actually have enough assets to make any adjustment necessary.

 

LIVE WITH YOUR CHOICES ... if living financially, month to month after the age of 50, you truly failed in life.   I don't even know how that's possible, (this coming from a LPOS) unless making every bad decision I could think of, or having a major addiction.

I notice you add the word, 'should,' fairly often in your post.

In a perfect world, everyone 'would.'  But the world is far from perfect.

You state; "Simply buy a pick up truck, van, real SUV, for equipment ladders, or trailer (as I did before buying a truck),  as if everyone has made the same financial decisions that you made. I regret to tell you, the majority of people today have not! You are not in touch with the world outside your circle. They are saying they have no bread, and you think they should eat cake.
I don't think I could even name 5 people I know who could 'simply' buy a pickup truck without putting a serious dent into their savings.  Hell, today, half the people in America couldn't do that, and they are still working!

That you or I may be enjoying our retirement, there are far too many struggling with a fixed income in a system of steadily rising expenses, and it's not enough to cover all the bills, much less a several-thousand-dollar payout. That lost part-time job may have paid for the monthly medicines.

6 minutes ago, FolkGuitar said:

You state; "Simply buy a pick up truck, van, real SUV, for equipment ladders, or trailer (as I did before buying a truck),  as if everyone has made the same financial decisions that you made. I regret to tell you, the majority of people today have not! You are not in touch with the world outside your circle.

 

That you or I may be enjoying our retirement, there are far too many struggling with a fixed income in a system of steadily rising expenses, and it's not enough to cover all the bills, much less a several-thousand-dollar payout. That lost part-time job may have paid for the monthly medicines.

 

At age 60, they should be able to adjust.   If not, then they've surely wasted way too much money on 'look at me purchases', instead of living practical, and within their means.

 

Nobody to blame but themselves.   And you're correct, 'in my circle' and all doing just fine ... BUT ... they worked and earned it.   Didn't wait for the hand out.

 

Some had a good start, good parents, college / uni diplomas, in fields that earn money, not easy classes just for the diploma.  Oh look, I'm a college grad. 

 

Others, (like myself) not so fortunate, but also not a stumbling block, as just took a bit more thought & work.

 

Know and know of plenty that are probably struggling ... BUT ... are simply living with the wrong choices they made, of silly 'look at me' purchases, and living way beyond of their means.

 

Just a little common sense would have avoided bad situations.  Live with your choices.  Seriously, if a lazy, drug distracted, idiot, can have 30 crap jobs, 1 decent, and still retire at 45, then there really is no excuse for people to be struggling.   Definitely not those at our age, 60s & 70s.  

I am becoming worried how the future ,not too distant either, is going to bring

you can see AI videos on Youtube ,you only know are AI ,because they are not

possible , but as these creators improve ,nothing is going to be certain ,it's

going to cause a lot of confusion , and who knows what else is possible

when some evil bastard gets good at doing this "Stuff"

 

regards worgeordie

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