Im thinking

1 bear hug carries

2 overhead carries

3 kettlebell swings

 

Full body workout in 3 exercises.

Pushups, Burpees, swimming......

You will fail at losing weight if you only focus on exercise, food is the most important thing to change, that's why so many people with no self control go to keto and carnivore 

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

You will fail at losing weight if you only focus on exercise, food is the most important thing to change, that's why so many people with no self control go to keto and carnivore 

People lose strength if diet alone. Skinny and weak is pathetic.

19 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

People lose strength if diet alone. Skinny and weak is pathetic.

No one suggests diet alone, find some self control and lose weight

58 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

No one suggests diet alone, find some self control and lose weight

Losing weight means nothing. Its better to get strong and fit. 

37 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Losing weight means nothing. Its better to get strong and fit. 

You're just making excuses because you struggle losing weight, do keto if you don't have self control

Just now, scubascuba3 said:

You're just making excuses because you struggle losing weight, do keto if you don't have self control

I had a waist of 31/32 in 1999. I was skinny and weak. Anthony Joshua has a bmi of 29. Thats the ideal physique. Fit n strong.

 

I have no doubt you are skinny and weak.

2 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

I had a waist of 31/32 in 1999. I was skinny and weak. Anthony Joshua has a bmi of 29. Thats the ideal physique. Fit n strong.

 

I have no doubt you are skinny and weak.

the options aren't overweight vs skinny and weak, there's other options

Just now, scubascuba3 said:

the options aren't overweight vs skinny and weak, there's other options

You can't get strong without resistance training or boxing. Typical cardio and diet makes you weak.

1 minute ago, scubascuba3 said:

the options aren't overweight vs skinny and weak, there's other options

 

most people hate working out because it's torture.

many health influencers give good advice, but are skinny and never work out apart from maybe some cardio. 

 

you will never be ideally healthy without some resistance training.

but most people will never do it. it's hard work, man. 

 

or let's say you're a cyclist. you could build up strong legs through cycling. But I'm not convinced that excessive cardio is safe. 

 

also, stretching is under-rated. 

 

 

Just now, save the frogs said:

 

most people hate working out because it's torture.

many health influencers give good advice, but are skinny and never work out apart from maybe some cardio. 

 

you will never be ideally healthy without some resistance training.

but most people will never do it. it's hard work, man. 

 

or let's say you're a cyclist. you could build up strong legs through cycling. But I'm not convinced that excessive cardio is safe. 

 

also, stretching is under-rated. 

 

 

Stretching is a waist of time. Endurance Cyclists are normally weak up top. Sprint cyclists have strength up top. 

 

 

33 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

most people hate working out because it's torture.

many health influencers give good advice, but are skinny and never work out apart from maybe some cardio. 

 

you will never be ideally healthy without some resistance training.

but most people will never do it. it's hard work, man. 

 

or let's say you're a cyclist. you could build up strong legs through cycling. But I'm not convinced that excessive cardio is safe. 

 

also, stretching is under-rated. 

 

 

Cycling yes muscular legs and yes stretching is very good certainly if have back issues. Gym's are boring find other things to do

1 minute ago, scubascuba3 said:

Cycling yes muscular legs and yes stretching is very good certainly if have back issues. Gym's are boring find other things to do

Cycling isnt boring?

Just now, Harrisfan said:

Cycling isnt boring?

Not at all, if cycling on your own like you would do then yes can get boring

Just now, scubascuba3 said:

Not at all, if cycling on your own like you would do then yes can get boring

You cycle with your boyfriends?

The claim that stretching is a waste of time is supported by a growing body of scientific evidence, particularly regarding static stretching. Research indicates that stretching provides minimal to no long-term benefits for flexibility, injury prevention, pain relief, or performance enhancement, with most perceived gains attributed to increased stretch tolerance rather than actual changes in muscle length. Studies have shown that stretching does not significantly reduce injury risk, improve running economy, or effectively treat chronic pain, including low back pain, and may even impair strength and power performance when done before activity. While stretching may feel good and improve body awareness, it is not a necessary component of fitness or rehabilitation for most people unless it is specifically needed to achieve a desired range of motion.

People with bad backs should take electrolytes often and do resistance training to strength the muscles. Lack of strength or low minerals leads to back issues.

4 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

You cycle with your boyfriends?

Cycle in a group usually including women sometimes believe it or not, you being odd would cycle on your own sooner or later

1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

Gym people are usually polite

the videos that pop up on my feed with gyms in always include fighting, might be all roids etc, are they all on roids? one way of getting rid of the fat

1 minute ago, scubascuba3 said:

the videos that pop up on my feed with gyms in always include fighting, might be all roids etc, are they all on roids? one way of getting rid of the fat

Never seen a fight in a gym. Seen lots of arrogant riders like the flog in the video.

56 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Gym's are boring find other things to do

 

I prefer playing sports. 

 

Most people hate gyms and will never go. I won't waste time trying to convince anyone.

 

I am forcing myself, but I'm cutting back. I will do the bare minimum. 

 

2 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

I had a waist of 31/32 in 1999. I was skinny and weak. Anthony Joshua has a bmi of 29. Thats the ideal physique. Fit n strong.

 

I have no doubt you are skinny and weak.

Did you post the other day that BMI is useless?

3 minutes ago, TedG said:

Did you post the other day that BMI is useless?

Yeah I did.

41 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Yeah I did.

 

The most important thing is what do you look like in the mirror?

 

Too fat? Too skinny? You will look bad in the mirror. You can't hide it. 

 

Ideally, we need to be thin and toned.

 

 

 

 

13 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Best exercises for combined strength and weight loss

Run up hill with the heaviest dumbbells that you can tolerate then add a couple more kilos and push it hard.

5 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

The most important thing is what do you look like in the mirror?

 

Too fat? Too skinny? You will look bad in the mirror. You can't hide it. 

 

Ideally, we need to be thin and toned.

 

 

 

 

Ideally its the women beside you.

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

I prefer playing sports. 

Yes but most people don't burn enough energy doing that, you see in Pattaya they have walking football as an example

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

 

I prefer playing sports. 

 

Most people hate gyms and will never go. I won't waste time trying to convince anyone.

 

I am forcing myself, but I'm cutting back. I will do the bare minimum. 

 

Tennis is good. 5 sets in a sun.

14 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Im thinking

1 bear hug carries

2 overhead carries

3 kettlebell swings

 

Full body workout in 3 exercises.

The body weight part is 95% diet. Exercise does burn calories, but since the brain consumes 25% of all energy, even sitting on one's butt binge watching Netflix burns a lot of calories.

 

The exercises you note do not burn much....maybe 50 calories or two sips of a beer. Besides, all three say "bad back" is coming.

 

I know Russians are fond of kettlebell swings, but human physiology says you're just asking for a lumbar issue.

 

Best to use as many muscle groups as possible. Bench press, military press, lat pull downs, dumbell raises side and front, pull-ups, dead hang to help keep vertebrae aligned, leg presses or squats, maybe dead lift, weighted sled push and pull, box jumps, suitcase carry, planks, backwards walking on a non-motorized treadmill. Add some genuine sprints or fast skipping (about 1% of people ever sprint after age 30). I also run stairs, climbing anywhere from 500 to 100 stairs per day.

 

As the weight gets easier, add more sets or reps, or add more weight. Use progressive overload. For example, I start bench with maybe 60 kg (132 lbs) with 20 reps to warm up. Next set 80 kg (176lbs) with maybe 15-20 reps. Then 100 kg (220 lbs) moving up after in 5-10 kg increments until the final set is (now) 155 kg (340 lbs). That last set is maybe 3-4 reps. Soon it will be 160 kg.

 

Bicep curls are just an ego thing. I cannot remember any sports move I ever did that required bulging biceps. Triceps, yes, biceps no.

 

I'm a gym rat and have been since playing university sports. 6 days a week, 2 hours per morning. Your body tells you if you're overtraining. The result of all the gym work is strength, mobility, weight control, low body fat (10-12%), better immune system, better circulation with all the benefits that entails, stronger bones, and lots of definition. No roids, just sweat and effort. According to the algorithm on my watch, all that burns 800 calories. Not sure how good the algos are.

 

It becomes habit. It pays huge dividends.