18 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

But, I wonder why, given that there is 'CCTV footage' that the Danish mans sister claims absolves the him of any fault, that the Police concluded otherwise ?

Isn't the insurance company that concluded otherwise..?..

18 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

18 hours ago, ravip said:

Just asking as I don't know anything about this.

In a similar situation: foreigner/tourist, accident/sudden illness, no insurance/cash in hand is hospitalized - will he be treated free of charge and discharged at zero cost? - in the developed world?

Not in USA. Damned freeloader! Expect other people to pay for you? /s

Ravit said "in the developed world"................

Just another example of the insurance mafia flexing its muscle and doing everything in its power to avoid paying another claim.

I'm not sure which ones more toxic, insurance companies, banking, or Big Pharma, but they're all a pox on the face of humanity.

Why everybody always want the public to cover their bills? As a tourist,Your family and relatives must have money . In Thailand , no matter what happens, it is always the foreigners to cover his/her own bills

As I've mentioned before a hospital can Not physically detain you for an unpaid hospital bill.

It is against Section 32 of the Thai Constitution. Unless a warrant is issued by the court or the person has committed a crime he can not be detained. They may call the Police who will mediate and may ask you to report to sign a debt acknowledgement contract.

Regarding care a hospital is obligated to provide Emergency, life threating, care until patient is stable.

After providing a Police Report and Hospital records to the Insurance I am pretty confident they will pay at least something. As long as he has a motorcycle license, and there were no exceptions as normally are for Alcohol intoxication.

1 hour ago, atpeace said:

I go with insurance companies the hospitals deal with all throughout each day. No waiting for reimbursement confirmation while you're in extreme pain. They know the process and have contact numbers scribbled on notepads.

What percentage of casual tourists do you figure are even aware of those issues?

4 minutes ago, impulse said:

What percentage of casual tourists do you figure are even aware of those issues?

Yep, that is a good point. I surely didn't.

29 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Just another example of the insurance mafia flexing its muscle and doing everything in its power to avoid paying another claim.

I'm not sure which ones more toxic, insurance companies, banking, or Big Pharma, but they're all a pox on the face of humanity.

You really need to get out of your own head. The world isn't that bad and you obviously don't lack intellect. Why are you so negative? Some terrible things must of happened the last few years or life sucks in general. Ever think about getting out of your situation and fixing your negativity?

You mentioned before you have a good woman and enough money which is a good base to start from IMO. You aren't chronically mean like many here and seem to be a person that people off line would like.

19 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

I wonder why, given that there is 'CCTV footage' that the Danish mans sister claims absolves the him of any fault, that the Police concluded otherwise ?

Try and look at it this way...if he didn't have a motorbike license, then he legally should not have been on that bike.

You’re not in Belgium anymore don’t you know Thailand cost for everything tit

In 2019 I was struck by a motorbike while walking past a market in Hua Hin. The motorbike which struck me had itself been hit by a passing Toyota 4WD (hit and run). I was Ok, bit banged up and, fortunately, my robust body shape acted as cushioning between the young female bike rider and the pile of wooden pallets i ended up back planting on. She was fine. The people from the market were fantastic, looked after me til the police came, gave comprehensive descriptions of the car and driver to police (including rego number) I was taken to hospital by a policeman, where it was all explained to the hospital staff and the only cost to me was 28 ozzy dollars for extra pain relief. I cannot fault any part of the process (except the dingus in the Toyota) and feel myself very lucky to have got out of it with a few splinters and bruises. I also got a free haircut and some fruit, but that's another story.

Where are all the "this is why you have insurance" folks??? They will do anything to get out of paying. Between requiring "preauthorization" for everything to just downright denying necessary care after the fact.

19 minutes ago, BuyBitcoin said:

Where are all the "this is why you have insurance" folks??? They will do anything to get out of paying. Between requiring "preauthorization" for everything to just downright denying necessary care after the fact.

Farud is an easy denial for any insurance company !

1 minute ago, Ralf001 said:

Farud is an easy denial for any insurance company !

What is the fraud? Did he fake shattering his pelvis?

...Again & Again...Even With Insurance...(?)

...Again & Again When The Other Party Is At Fault...(?)

...What Bl**dy Sense Does That Make...(?)

19 minutes ago, BuyBitcoin said:

What is the fraud? Did he fake shattering his pelvis?

That's a question you should direct to the insurance company.

20 minutes ago, BuyBitcoin said:

What is the fraud? Did he fake shattering his pelvis?

His and his sisters accounts of what happened don't line up with the police report, or the video evidence. In fact it appears he caused the accident, and why haven't we heard about the other driver and their financial problems caused by the reckless Farang? Then there is the usual culprits, but no evidence yet----> (im)proper licensing.

1 hour ago, atpeace said:

You really need to get out of your own head. The world isn't that bad and you obviously don't lack intellect. Why are you so negative? Some terrible things must of happened the last few years or life sucks in general. Ever think about getting out of your situation and fixing your negativity?

You mentioned before you have a good woman and enough money which is a good base to start from IMO. You aren't chronically mean like many here and seem to be a person that people off line would like.

Thanks for your feedback, indeed I do have a good life here. I think in general I'm not a negative person, but this forum is primarily about moaning and groaning and airing our grievances. I do occasionally post something all rose colored but that's not typical of this forum.

I think it's kind of hard to make an argument that the health insurance companies, the medical industry, big Pharma and banking are not incredibly toxic and corrupt.

21 hours ago, ravip said:

Just asking as I don't know anything about this.

In a similar situation: foreigner/tourist, accident/sudden illness, no insurance/cash in hand is hospitalized - will he be treated free of charge and discharged at zero cost? - in the developed world?

In Australia they would be

1 hour ago, atpeace said:

You really need to get out of your own head. The world isn't that bad and you obviously don't lack intellect. Why are you so negative? Some terrible things must of happened the last few years or life sucks in general. Ever think about getting out of your situation and fixing your negativity?

You mentioned before you have a good woman and enough money which is a good base to start from IMO. You aren't chronically mean like many here and seem to be a person that people off line would like.

I'm not negative and I think the same. Govts are out to crush the ordinary person. That does not mean I don't enjoy life.

10 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I'm not negative and I think the same. Govts are out to crush the ordinary person. That does not mean I don't enjoy life.

Why do Governments want to crush ordinary people ?

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

Why do Governments want to crush ordinary people ?

Usually, the polite way, by taxing them to death.

1 minute ago, lordgrinz said:

Usually, the polite way, by taxing them to death.

Thats the Leftie socialist way .

"Added to this are additional costs linked to third parties and people involved, estimated at around 40,000 euros."

What about this part ? Who are the third parties and people ?

That's fishy. Many ideas come to mind when an insurance claims fraud, one is that he doesn't even have a driver's license, and it won't help that he wasn't driving at that moment. The other is: What "related" costs could be so high?

As many of you, I am tired of all those fundraising efforts. And I am tired of lack of journalism and half-baked stories here. Mention the hospital's name, so I can ask there myself what's going on.

Just now, Chalong circle said:

"Added to this are additional costs linked to third parties and people involved, estimated at around 40,000 euros."

What about this part ? Who are the third parties and people ?

Maybe the other motorcycle rider who has to repair his motorcycle, or pay for his own medical bills. Or possibly the bike the Belgian was riding needs repairs that the rental company wants the farang to pay for?

22 hours ago, bunnydrops said:

The other guy in the accident may not have had any insurance

At 100 km I guess he's dead anyway.

Just now, Jabberwocky said:

At 100 km I guess he's dead anyway.

I doubt that, or the Belgian would be under arrest.

1 minute ago, lordgrinz said:

I doubt that, or the Belgian would be under arrest.

How, if there is footage clearing him?

8 hours ago, kwilco said:

So you are saying they should let the uninsured die of their injuries? - Where do they put them? In bed or just stack them up in the cellar...or dispatch them with a lethal injection?

The man is not a Thai national. The hospital met its moral and legal obligations to stabilize the patient. No one was left to die of their injuries. He is complaining about the lack of rehabilitation services and his legal obligation to pay for the medical services rendered.

No country can afford to offer free medical care for foreigners., especially not a country of modest financial means like Thailand. The country struggles to take care of its own and yet you expect the people of Thailand to pay for the medical care of a comparatively wealthy foreign national who was having a good time. If you are unable or unwilling to obtain insurance, then you must accept the consequences if you travel elsewhere on holiday.

This was entirely his choice to have a good time in Thailand. It was his choice to rent a powerful motorbike with slicks that he may have not been licensed to operate, let alone known how to operate. At least he had a helmet. He is responsible for his own leisure decisions.