5 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

• Maintained financial ties between Trump officials and Trump’s media company. That includes: FBI Director Kash Patel who was gifted a huge award of Trump media company stock.

• Nominated Attorney General Bondi who owned $2 million in DJT shares.

• Paid the Education Secretary almost $1 million in Trump Media company shares.

• Intelligence Board nominees who have millions in Trump Media company shares.

• Selected a Special Envoy to the Middle East who wants to develop real estate in Gaza while running his own real estate firm.

• Appointed an FBI Director who consulted for the Qatari government.

• Picked that FBI Director even though he also received millions from a Cayman Island holding company with ties to China.

• Decided to cancel the Direct File program, which will help the bottom line of Intuit, which gave $1 million to Trump’s inauguration.

• Took its largest inauguration donation from a poultry company under DOJ scrutiny. After the donation, the SEC approved its parent company for the New York Stock Exchange.

• Dropped a probe into sexual misconduct allegations against Trump’s Education Secretary’s husband.

Howl lefty, howl!

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2 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Why don't you Brits commies sort out your own knife ridden, allah chanting crime ridden backyard first - losers !!

The UK has nothing to do with this thread, you really are cornered, aren't you.......🤗

And it seems you think the USA has no knife crime or chanting religious folk, funny how your police have to have a gun at the ready there, eh...................😂

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

Eh?

Never mind, a shame really........🤕.......😂

1 minute ago, LosLobo said:

If I presented evidence to you that MAGA does meet your own criteria of a ‘real cult’, would you be willing to reconsider your conclusion?

Why not stick to the dictionary for definitions? Oh, that's right, you're a leftist, everything has to be redefined to fit the agenda.

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Why not stick to the dictionary for definitions? Oh, that's right, you're a leftist, everything has to be redefined to fit the agenda.

Eh......?

Just now, transam said:

Eh......?

Oh no

3 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

Quite the contrary, you have proven that you have no idea what you are talking about....again!

I will explain so even you can understand!

Calling MAGA a cult means a person is misusing the word.

A real cult involves isolation, financial exploitation, total control, and inability to leave freely.

MAGA is just a large group of people with strong political opinions and loyalty to a leader—common in politics, not a cult.

They’re throwing around a serious term to insult opponents, not describing reality accurately.

Followers of Obama, Biden, Clinton, and other major politicians often exhibit the same kind of passionate loyalty and tribalism as MAGA supporters.

• Obama: His 2008 campaign inspired near-messianic fervor with "Hope and Change" slogans, massive rallies, and celebrity-like adoration. Critics called it a "cult of personality" too.

• Biden: His base shows strong devotion, especially among unions, minorities, and progressives who see him as a defender against Trumpism—echo chambers and all.

• Clinton (Bill or Hillary): Both had die-hard fans who defended them fiercely against scandals, with Bill's charisma drawing rock-star crowds and Hillary's supporters forming tight-knit online communities.

This is standard in polarized politics: both sides have fervent bases that look "cultish" to opponents. But none qualify as actual cults—they're just enthusiastic political movements. The double standard comes when people only apply the label to the other side.

If I presented evidence to you that MAGA does meet your own criteria of a ‘real cult’, would you be willing to reconsider your conclusion?

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Oh no

Oh, yes, I don't think you know what a dictionary is...........🤫

On 1/5/2026 at 2:36 PM, Schoggibueb said:

• FELONY: A New York court convicted the President of 34 felony counts of falsified business records – the first time a former or sitting President has been convicted of criminal charges.

• TRUMP PROTECTS PEDOPHILES: Trump cozies up to pedophiles like Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, and Trump Faith Advisor Robert Morris.

• TRUMP’S CRYPTO CORRUPTION: Trump used to call crypto a “scam,” then he cashed in. The Trump family has raked in at least $800 million dollars in crypto since the start of 2025 alone. He also pardoned Binance’s co-founder after Binance helped set up Trump’s own crypto holdings company and suspended an SEC fraud investigation into a crypto billionaire Justin Sun just weeks after Sun invested $75 million into Trump’s crypto company World Liberty Financial. Trump is cashing in on his presidential power, bumping up the value of his $TRUMP memecoin by 60% by offering a White House tour to top investors.

• JANUARY 6 INSURRECTIONISTS: The President’s first act in office was to grant clemency to about 1,500 people – every person charged or convicted for their role in the January 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol. After their pardons, several Jan 6ers went on to be convicted of possessing child pornography, sexually assaulting a child, driving under the influence and reckless homicide, burglary, grand theft, home invasion, and resisting arrest, among other crimes.

• PARDONED A DRUG SMUGGLER: The former Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernández had been sentenced to a 45-year prison sentence after being convicted for using his position to smuggle 400 tons of cocaine into the U.S. in 2024. Honduras, for its part, has issued a warrant for his arrest.

• PARDONED DRUG SELLER: The former Silk Road founder Ross Ulbricht helped facilitate the sale of more than $214 million in illegal drugs through a dark web marketplace, with some of those who bought drugs dying. He was sentenced to life in prison.

  Trump pardoned him for his 2015 conviction for a narcotics and money-laundering conspiracy.

  Only a few mentioned here. He is a criminal.

A convicted felon as President of the USA says it all about that country - never mind the rest of the "dubious/illegal" behaviour of the man.

8 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

If I presented evidence to you that MAGA does meet your own criteria of a ‘real cult’, would you be willing to reconsider your conclusion?

Yes, absolutely—if you presented credible, verifiable evidence that MAGA as a movement systematically meets the key criteria of a cult (e.g., widespread isolation of members from family/society, financial exploitation draining personal resources, total behavioral/thought/emotional control by a central authority, and genuine barriers preventing people from leaving freely), I would reevaluate and potentially revise my conclusion.That said, based on extensive analysis from cult experts, sociologists, and available data, it doesn't align with those traits—it's a decentralized political movement with voluntary participation.

18 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

If I presented evidence to you that MAGA does meet your own criteria of a ‘real cult’, would you be willing to reconsider your conclusion?

Why not stick to the dictionary for definitions? Oh, that's right, you're a leftist, everything has to be redefined to fit the agenda.

3 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

Quite the contrary, you have proven that you have no idea what you are talking about....again!

I will explain so even you can understand!

Calling MAGA a cult means a person is misusing the word.

A real cult involves isolation, financial exploitation, total control, and inability to leave freely.

MAGA is just a large group of people with strong political opinions and loyalty to a leader—common in politics, not a cult.

They’re throwing around a serious term to insult opponents, not describing reality accurately.

Followers of Obama, Biden, Clinton, and other major politicians often exhibit the same kind of passionate loyalty and tribalism as MAGA supporters.

• Obama: His 2008 campaign inspired near-messianic fervor with "Hope and Change" slogans, massive rallies, and celebrity-like adoration. Critics called it a "cult of personality" too.

• Biden: His base shows strong devotion, especially among unions, minorities, and progressives who see him as a defender against Trumpism—echo chambers and all.

• Clinton (Bill or Hillary): Both had die-hard fans who defended them fiercely against scandals, with Bill's charisma drawing rock-star crowds and Hillary's supporters forming tight-knit online communities.

This is standard in polarized politics: both sides have fervent bases that look "cultish" to opponents. But none qualify as actual cults—they're just enthusiastic political movements. The double standard comes when people only apply the label to the other side.

That is just a crock.......so lets call it a special club for trump's "favourite people". There, fixed it for you, BUT it still means they share the same nonsense and support the convicted felon despite his lies and crimes!!

Now please don't get upset that you have been rumbled!!

1 minute ago, xylophone said:

That is just a crock.......so lets call it a special club for trump's "favourite people". There, fixed it for you, BUT it still means they share the same nonsense and support the convicted felon despite his lies and crimes!!

Now please don't get upset that you have been rumbled!!

Strange how these Trump followers come up with some real nonsense to cover for him, oh, but funny to read.................😅

Why do leftists all seem to believe the idiocy they regurgitate upsets anyone? I find these Trump obsessed morons hilarious.

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Why do leftists all seem to believe the idiocy they regurgitate upsets anyone? I find these Trump obsessed morons hilarious.

Is that a bit like those obsessed with the word, "Lefty"..........🤫

5 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

Yes, absolutely—if you presented credible, verifiable evidence that MAGA as a movement systematically meets the key criteria of a cult (e.g., widespread isolation of members from family/society, financial exploitation draining personal resources, total behavioral/thought/emotional control by a central authority, and genuine barriers preventing people from leaving freely), I would reevaluate and potentially revise my conclusion.That said, based on extensive analysis from cult experts, sociologists, and available data, it doesn't align with those traits—it's a decentralized political movement with voluntary participation.

So your statement that a ‘real cult involves isolation, financial exploitation, total control, and inability to leave freely’ wasn’t a general definition of a cult, but a description of a specific high-control subset?

Just now, transam said:

Is that a bit like those obsessed with the word, "Lefty"..........🤫

Eh?

14 minutes ago, xylophone said:

That is just a crock.......so lets call it a special club for trump's "favourite people". There, fixed it for you, BUT it still means they share the same nonsense and support the convicted felon despite his lies and crimes!!

Now please don't get upset that you have been rumbled!!

So no rebuttal just more drivel, I'm shocked!!

26 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Eh?

You're stuck for answers again today, I see........🤗

14 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

So no rebuttal just more drivel, I'm shocked!!

No point in a rebuttal to those who do not know/will not see that they are in a cult or special club 🤣

Oh by the way, as the USA was not at war with Venezuela the killing of people in the capturing of Maduro is illegal......"Attorney-General Tarek William Saab spoke of “dozens” of civilian and military dead, without giving a breakdown".

‘Trump, murderer’

US forces killed 55 Venezuelan and Cuban military personnel during their stunning raid to capture Nicolas Maduro, tolls published by Caracas and Havana showed Tuesday.

Now try to explain how the President of Honduras, captured because he was "responsible" for the huge drug trafficking has been PARDONED whilst Maduro is in jail and facing drug charges..........something smells very wrong there and its name is "corruption" and it is spelt trump.

13 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

So your statement that a ‘real cult involves isolation, financial exploitation, total control, and inability to leave freely’ wasn’t a general definition of a cult, but a description of a specific high-control subset?

Yes, it was precisely a description of destructive, high-control cults—the ones everyone actually means when they throw around the word 'cult' in serious conversations (Jonestown, NXIVM, Scientology's worst abuses).

Dictionaries give the broad, neutral definition ('any system of devotion' or 'small religious group'), which technically includes everything from ancient Roman mystery cults to a 'cult following' for a TV show.

By that loose standard, almost any fanbase or political movement could be called a cult, which makes the term meaningless.

When people accuse MAGA (or any political group) of being a 'cult', they're not using the dictionary version—they're invoking the expert, pejorative meaning: coercive, exploitative, isolating, inescapable. And that's the standard I applied.

If we water it down to the dictionary level, then sure, MAGA has a 'cult of personality' around Trump. But so did Obama, Reagan, JFK, and half the popular leaders in history.

Calling that a 'cult' is just rhetorical name-calling, not a meaningful accusation

So no contradiction, the criteria I listed are exactly what separate real dangerous cults from passionate politics.

MAGA fails them spectacularly."

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Trump does some things I do not like, but the louder and longer the left howls about Trump, the better I like him.

Like all MAGAs you are very easily pleased by rubbish.

42 minutes ago, transam said:

You're stuck for answers again today, I see........🤗

"Just today" ?

1 hour ago, transam said:

The UK has nothing to do with this thread, you really are cornered, aren't you.......🤗

And it seems you think the USA has no knife crime or chanting religious folk, funny how your police have to have a gun at the ready there, eh...................😂

as a Brit I thought you would get irony - apperently not !

20 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

The chance of President Trump going to jail/prison is less than zero!

there is an old saying.... never say never

3 hours ago, Schoggibueb said:

Turned the White House into a Tesla dealership.

sorry but had to correct your line and added......turned the WH into a CIRCUS

Donald Trump has brought Americans into an undeclared, unprovoked, illegal, and unconstitutional war against a sovereign country, murdered its citizens, and kidnapped its leader.

To those credulous Trump cheerleaders, ask yourselves whether the United States is behaving any differently than Russia, which invaded its neighbor in a war of pure aggression.

Trump claims he is combatting “narco-terrorists.” But Venezuela is not a major producer of drugs like fentanyl, and most of the cocaine it does produce goes to Europe.

Trump’s remarkable decision, which may get Americans killed, is done to distract the public from the Epstein files, a disastrous economy, Trump’s sinking popularity, and increasing signs of his senility.

Therefore: Trump is a war criminal too.

4 hours ago, Schoggibueb said:

1.98 in Arizona - 555

My bad, I meant Iowa. My brother sent me this.

4 minutes ago, Slowhand225 said:

My bad, I meant Iowa. My brother sent me this.

Ah, now you blame youre brother. And not even that is correct. Just stop your fake news...