1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

You'd have a point if she was peacefully going about her day.

She wasn't. She was blocking them from doing their duties. Then when challenged she rammed her car into one of them.

I hope defending criminals from deportation was worth it.

Woman liberal woman gets shot in the face while exercising her constitutional right to protest.

Of course you are loving it.

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Woman liberal woman gets shot in the face while exercising her constitutional right to protest.

She didn't have a constitutional right to ram her car into the ICE officer. That's what got her shot.

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Of course you are loving it.

Loving it????

It seems your emotions are getting the better of you Chomps.

11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

She was in her vehicle, not impeding anything.

ICE had no right to try to enter her vehicle.

She was being detained for blocking the ICE convoy. Agents can and in several instances already seen this year remove people from impeding them in the performance of their duty, and that includes pulling them out of the vehicle. Instead of following lawful instructions, she pointed her vehicle at an ICE agent, grazed him, and attempted to flee. Local authorities do have jurisdiction, however, in towing away the deceased's car.

1 hour ago, JAG said:

he deliberatly shot her in the chest through the front right corner of the windscreen

30 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

ICE agents are not police officers.

So why do they carry guns then?

15 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

She didn't have a constitutional right to ram her car into the ICE officer. That's what got her shot.

Loving it????

It seems your emotions are getting the better of you Chomps.

She didn’t ram her car into anyone.

1 minute ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

So why do they carry guns then?

Not for shooting citizens.

ICE have no authority over citizens.

Well not yet they don’t.

5 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

So why do they carry guns then?

I found the answer. Ice officers carry guns because they are federal law enforcement agents whose duties include making arrests, executing search and arrest warrants, conducting investigations into dangerous transnational crimes, and using force, including lethal force, when necessary to carry out their law enforcement mission and protect public safety. 

4 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

I found the answer. Ice officers carry guns because they are federal law enforcement agents whose duties include making arrests, executing search and arrest warrants, conducting investigations into dangerous transnational crimes, and using force, including lethal force, when necessary to carry out their law enforcement mission and protect public safety. 

Slaughtering a citizen exercising her right to protest is not protecting public safety.

ICE have no authority over US Citizens.

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Slaughtering a citizen exercising her right to protest is not protecting public safety.

It is when she deliberately drives her car into an ICE officer.

Americans wake up to the obvious reality that they are the target of ICE.

Just now, IvorBiggun2 said:

It is when she deliberately drives her car into an ICE officer.

Which she did not do,

25 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

She didn’t ram her car into anyone.

Didn't watch the video I posted then? 😄

Ignorance is bliss.

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Which she did not do,

If you refuse to watch videos you really shouldn't act like an authority on what did and did not happen. 😄

28 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

She didn’t ram her car into anyone.

There's a front on video that would appear to show you are wrong. 1:57.

14 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Which she did not do,

Yes she did.

14 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

If you refuse to watch videos you really shouldn't act like an authority on what did and did not happen. 😄

I’ve already told you Jonny, I watch videos on news channels, not here on this discussion forum.

No video has been released that shows the vehicle ramming an ICE agent.

There is a video showing an ICE agent getting a practical lesson on why not to stand in front of a vehicle, but not of the vehicle striking the agent.

Clearly there’s some gaping holes in the minimal training given to proud boys recruits to ICE.

It’s a very good example of why ICE should leave policing US Citizens to the competent authority ‘The Police’.

The killer’s not yet faced the worst of it.

He’s going to need some injuries to parade in FOX News.

“Swig this moonshine Cletus, then bite on the stick, this is going to hurt you more than it hurts me but it’s for the cause’

11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’ve already told you Jonny, I watch videos on news channels, not here on this discussion forum.

No video has been released that shows the vehicle ramming an ICE agent.

There is a video showing an ICE agent getting a practical lesson on why not to stand in front of a vehicle, but not of the vehicle striking the agent.

Clearly there’s some gaping holes in the minimal training given to proud boys recruits to ICE.

It’s a very good example of why ICE should leave policing US Citizens to the competent authority ‘The Police’.

What country are you from??? In the United States, if the police are surrounding your car in the attempt to apprehend you and you disobey the police and move the car towards another human then they will shoot at you and probably kill you of your own doing.

12 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There is a video showing an ICE agent getting a practical lesson on why not to stand in front of a vehicle, but not of the vehicle striking the agent.

The video I posted clearly shows the vehicle striking the agent before he fires. If you refuse to watch it because it is posted on a forum rather than one of your preferred leftist propaganda channels then your lack of information on the issue is your problem.

It seems Karen got a practical lesson on why not to ram an armed agent with your car.

29 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

There's a front on video that would appear to show you are wrong. 1:57.

Yes I also posted the video from the same angle. She clearly rammed him.

Alas, he doesn't watch videos that prove him wrong are posted on forums. 😄

6 minutes ago, khunJam said:

What country are you from??? In the United States, if the police are surrounding your car in the attempt to apprehend you and you disobey the police and move the car towards another human then they will shoot at you and probably kill you of your own doing.

My nationality is non of your business.

ICE agents are not police officers, they have no authority over IS Citizens..

17 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’ve already told you Jonny, I watch videos on news channels, not here on this discussion forum.

Maybe you should start. The videos posted "on this discussion forum" are from "news channels" and the front on one clearly shows contact with the ICE officer. Should he had shot her is another thing but at the same time should she had been interfering in federal officers carrying out their duties? Wind the clock back 5 years and if the borders weren't opened up and sanctuary cities didn't become a thing this would never have happened.

Just now, dinsdale said:

Maybe you should start. The videos posted "on this discussion forum" are from "news channels" and the front on one clearly shows contact with the ICE officer. Should he had shot her is another thing but at the same time should she had been interfering in federal officers carrying out their duties? Wind the clock back 5 years and if the borders weren't opened up and sanctuary cities didn't become a thing this would never have happened.

ICE will have the opportunity to present evidence of their claim the agent was rammed.

Both the FBI and Minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension are now investigating the incident.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

My nationality is non of your business.

ICE agents are not police officers, they have no authority over IS Citizens..

ICE agents are federal law enforcement officers. Impeding federal officers from carrying out their duties is an offence.

Having reviewed the video, she was attempting to flee, recklessly, and guilty of assault with a deadly weapon.

However, the officer had already been struck and subsequently shot whilst in no danger, so his use of deadly force was unwarranted.

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

My nationality is non of your business.

ICE agents are not police officers, they have no authority over IS Citizens..

Right and couldn’t really care less where you are from. But it’s foolish for a non American to comment on laws of the United States. What is paramount above all else when it comes to the police in the United States is to obey their commands, especially if you are a subject of their objective, if not then you and only you are responsible for the outcome.

7 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

ICE agents are federal law enforcement officers. Impeding federal officers from carrying out their duties is an offence.

It’s not a capital offense.

Murder is.

2 minutes ago, khunJam said:

Right and couldn’t really care less where you are from. But it’s foolish for a non American to comment on laws of the United States. What is paramount above all else when it comes to the police in the United States is to obey their commands, especially if you are a subject of their objective, if not then you and only you are responsible for the outcome.

If you aren’t aware ICE are not the police you perhaps ought not pontificate on who you think should and should not comment.

16 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Yes I also posted the video from the same angle. She clearly rammed him.

Alas, he doesn't watch videos that prove him wrong are posted on forums. 😄

Both angle clearly show that the officer step away and the car wheels were turning away from the officer; not towards him to indicate she was trying to ram him. The officer then shoot point blank at the woman and walk away showing no sign that he was hurt. He even walk towards and away from the grounded van which is a good distance again showing no sign of distress in walking. You are parroting Trump's narrative that the officer was rammed which was a bold lie.

Who will charge him ?? DOJ, FBI ? or State Law enforcement ? sounds political 😉. what a mess....