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Was this justified?

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42 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Innocent bystanders? Who? Where? It was a heavily fortified military base.

Are you serious? When you have a secretary of war with a war ethos, sht happens by default.

You and anyone else can Google the below:

Specific Evidence and Reports of Civilian Casualties

  • Identified Civilian Deaths (U.S. Assessment): Current estimates, cited by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), report that two civilian deaths have been identified out of approximately 75 total casualties (military and civilian).

  • Case Details (Bellingcat Investigation): An investigation by Bellingcat is reported to have found details on one of the deaths:

    • One woman was killed when an AGM-88 anti-radiation missile detonated near an apartment block in Catia La Mar (Source 2.1, 3.3).

  • Case Details (Peoples Dispatch): Another report from Peoples Dispatch gives details on a second case:

    • Yohana Rodríguez Sierra, a 45-year-old Colombian self-employed trader and single mother of three, was killed by a missile during the bombing of television and telecommunications antennas in Miranda State. A relative who was injured in the strike called home reporting that her mother was killed (Source 3.4).

  • Unspecified Civilian Death: Another civilian was reportedly killed when U.S. forces struck a communications array near El Volcán (Source 2.1, 3.3).

  • Venezuelan Government Claim: The Venezuelan Interior Ministry officially stated the attack left 100 people dead and condemned the operation for harming a "large number of innocent people," though they did not provide a detailed civilian/military breakdown (Source 1.3, 1.7, 2.7).

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  • Wydahoan
    Wydahoan

    The I love Trump brigade is very silent on this topic.

  • HappyExpat57
    HappyExpat57

    And it doesn't matter what nationality or political persuasion the deceased were, they were needlessly murdered.

  • Alan Zweibel
    Alan Zweibel

    I suppose that the argument will be made that these people were defending Maduro. But given that various military bases were bombed, I doubt that's entirely true. And given that Maduro was abducted on

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8 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Again you focus only on what Fox/Newsmax et al TELL you to focus on.

Take a breath, then take a step back, take the Fox goggles off and look at the bigger picture.

Ready? OK, let's try again:

The US had NO BUSINESS BEING THERE. The people killed didn't have to die. They were murdered needlessly.

It does seem like seem that sometimes people don’t get the whole picture.

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1 hour ago, Wydahoan said:

The I love Trump brigade is very silent on this topic.

They'll probably blindly love Trump until their last breath.

1 hour ago, Alan Zweibel said:

I'm not sure why. They're not particularly reluctant to justify, and even celebrate, such slaughter.

would it be justified for to say capture Hilter or Putin?

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Just now, TedG said:

would it be justified for to say capture Hilter or Putin?

Well, get back to me when Venezuela launches a military invasion against foreign nations.

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2 minutes ago, TedG said:

would it be justified for to say capture Hilter or Putin?

Way, way off topic. Into the stratosphere.

2 minutes ago, In Full Agreement said:

They'll probably blindly love Trump until their last breath.

Cults are like that. The Branch Davidians and Jim Jones provide clear examples. We just have to hope Trump does not take millions with him.

2 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Well, get back to me when Venezuela launches a military invasion against foreign nations.

This operation was a huge blow to Putin. He was using Venezuela to move his oil. I’m sure that upsets you.

4 minutes ago, TedG said:

This operation was a huge blow to Putin. He was using Venezuela to move his oil. I’m sure that upsets you.

Trump would never cross his daddy. They have a deal, Ukraine for Venezuela. Greenland for dissolving NATO is another deal. All of Trumps actions are guided by Putin's plan.

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5 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Cults are like that. The Branch Davidians and Jim Jones provide clear examples. We just have to hope Trump does not take millions with him.

The gospel according to Grok, blessed be the name of Grok.

Q: How many children have died because USAID funding was cut off?

A: While exact figures vary and are projections, researchers estimate hundreds of thousands of children have already died due to cuts in USAID funding, with models from Boston University suggesting over 200,000 child deaths, while a major Lancet study predicts over 4.5 million child deaths (under 5) by 2030 if cuts continue, impacting treatment for malnutrition and diseases like HIV/AIDS, malaria, and pneumonia. 

5 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

The gospel according to Grok, blessed be the name of Grok.

Q: How many children have died because USAID funding was cut off?

A: While exact figures vary and are projections, researchers estimate hundreds of thousands of children have already died due to cuts in USAID funding, with models from Boston University suggesting over 200,000 child deaths, while a major Lancet study predicts over 4.5 million child deaths (under 5) by 2030 if cuts continue, impacting treatment for malnutrition and diseases like HIV/AIDS, malaria, and pneumonia. 

You forgot many thousands to his bungling of Covid and the horrific appointment of RFK.

8 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Trump would never cross his daddy. They have a deal, Ukraine for Venezuela. Greenland for dissolving NATO is another deal. All of Trumps actions are guided by Putin's plan.

Trump gave Putin the finger.

8 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

The gospel according to Grok, blessed be the name of Grok.

Q: How many children have died because USAID funding was cut off?

A: While exact figures vary and are projections, researchers estimate hundreds of thousands of children have already died due to cuts in USAID funding, with models from Boston University suggesting over 200,000 child deaths, while a major Lancet study predicts over 4.5 million child deaths (under 5) by 2030 if cuts continue, impacting treatment for malnutrition and diseases like HIV/AIDS, malaria, and pneumonia. 

That’s a made up number.

Just now, TedG said:

Trump gave Putin the finger.

Hardly, Trump went in to set up shipments to Russia with Trump Oil taking a commission.

2 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Hardly, Trump went in to set up shipments to Russia with Trump Oil taking a commission.

Link?

3 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Hardly, Trump went in to set up shipments to Russia with Trump Oil taking a commission.

As long as The Don gets to wet his beak, anything is on the table.

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6 minutes ago, TedG said:

Trump gave Putin the finger.

From Trumps past experience, I find it doubtful he thought about that, maybe he thought about cheap American gas prices, but not further.

2 minutes ago, Wydahoan said:

From Trumps past experience, I find it doubtful he thought about that, maybe he thought about cheap American gas prices, but not further.

This impacted Putin’s ability to bypass sanctions. This news should warm your heart, unless you are a Putin lover.

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Just now, TedG said:

This impacted Putin’s ability to bypass sanctions. This news should warm your heart, unless you are a Putin lover.

I’ll stick with my comment that Trump didn’t think that far ahead.

2 minutes ago, Wydahoan said:

I’ll stick with my comment that Trump didn’t think that far ahead.

Venezuela is far from Russia. But the echoes of the Caracas snatch are ringing around the Kremlin

By overthrowing Maduro, President Trump dealt a humiliating blow to Vladimir Putin

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/01/05/venezuela-russian-air-defence-putin-blow-trump-maduro/

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Just now, TedG said:

Venezuela is far from Russia. But the echoes of the Caracas snatch are ringing around the Kremlin

By overthrowing Maduro, President Trump dealt a humiliating blow to Vladimir Putin

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/01/05/venezuela-russian-air-defence-putin-blow-trump-maduro/

Very good! Now let’s hope he doesn’t apologize.

39 minutes ago, TedG said:

You understand there is a difference between support to Venezuela and being controlled from Cuba or making the dictator surviving. Cuba have more or less enough just staying alive on their own after decades of blockade from USA.

Same as any other alliance teaming up against foreign pressure and forces.

How many bases do USA have again, and how many dictators have they played with? And those who do not play along, what happens to them?

It is just how the world moves around with dark power

12 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Think?

12 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Think?

You should think about posting evidence.

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

How many bases do USA have again, and how many dictators have they played with? And those who do not play along, what happens to them?

I agree the US has too many overseas bases. I support closing everyone in Europe.

1 minute ago, TedG said:

I agree the US has too many overseas bases. I support closing everyone in Europe.

We hope so to, USA became greedy and blaming Europe for their downfall.

Just want Greenland and shut the door ? Huh?

Good luck!

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

We hope so to, USA became greedy and blaming Europe for their downfall.

Just want Greenland and shut the door ? Huh?

Good luck!

Please kick the US Military out of Europe. I’m tired of my tax dollars being wasted on defending Europe.

11 minutes ago, TedG said:

Please kick the US Military out of Europe. I’m tired of my tax dollars being wasted on defending Europe.

Well, the emotional part drives both of us, and we want the same, but if you think about it, who is the best partner in crime ?

All the countries most of you guys comes from, or ? You choose?

give me a list of countries who will be standing with you ? Not with Trump, but with USA who is willing to make fair deals, and not treat us as backyard dogs.

And why not ask why USA are falling, and nope Donald cant save you guys, he is only in it for himself only.

44 minutes ago, TedG said:

I agree the US has too many overseas bases. I support closing everyone in Europe.

But not the ones where dictators or despots rule? Sounds like you have got it a** backwards

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