44 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Tell you what, go hit one of the protestors in the head with a broom handle which is a blunt object, or a snow shovel and let us know what happens. Does it result in death or serious physical injury or is nothing? Are you arrested for physical assault and murder if the person dies? Ask the person you struck if they mind being beaten by a violent maniac. When you are arrested and charged, you can tell the police, and then the court, it was nothing and that everyone is excited over a non event.

Have you ever pick up a snow shovel? Flimsy and weighing barely over a pound. That means old folks (like me) can use them. Never get in between a husband and his snow shovel!

Same weight as brooms. Never get in between the missus and her broom!

That's where ICE went wrong!

A former Department of Homeland Security official has claimed that “animal control officers” get more training than Immigration and Customs Enforcement recruits.

Former D.C. Chief of Homeland Security and Intelligence Donell Harvin accused ICE of not practicing proper police safety.

“If you take the current DHS Secretary Kristi Noem, at her word, the ICE agent that shot Ms. Good was following his training, his tactics and policies,” the ex-DHS official told MS NOW’s Ana Cabrera Thursday.

“If that's the case and you take her at her word, then we have a big problem, because what we have is ICE agents that are not practicing proper police or law enforcement officer safety and survivability,” Harvin continued.

“I will tell you that in many states, you can become an animal control officer, but you need twice as much training,” Harvin said. “So think about that. Your local dog catcher will need more training to carry a firearm and execute warrants and arrest people than an ICE agent. And that's what's concerning.”

Animal control gets more training than ICE agents: ex-DHS official

5 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

I am not part of MAGA. I did not agree with the Jan. 6 pardons and opposed them. However, I do understand why they were given, and it was consistent with the pattern of previous US pardons. (Read up on the number and type of clemency, commutations and pardons extended historically. Previous administrations gave blanket pardons of Vietnam War draft evaders and drug offences, which were more unpopular with some at the time.)

I do care about a consistent enforcement of US immigration law. The situation of tens of thousands of people surging across the border in uncontrolled waves was a threat to national security. The presence of hundreds of thousands of criminals, many of whom violent and mentally ill, was a threat to the public and the migrant community too. The presence of millions of people who are working in an underground economy and sending millions of $$ out of the country is a serious destabilizing characteristic of the US economy. The exploitation of millions of people is a threat to the social fabric. The presence of hundreds of thousands of migrant children in the US school system and using the healthcare network is unsustainable. The impact that millions of people not fully contributing to the upkeep of social care services and infrastructure of the country is a financial burden and drain on the limited resources. The demands of millions of people for housing negatively impacts the housing stock inventory, particularly low cost housing.

The reality of the unauthorized migrant community is that while they provided cheap labor to the USA, their contribution in taxes and domestic spend is far less than what they take. This is an inconvenient truth that the proponents of doing nothing have failed to address. The migrants are not the enemy. Rather, the people who have made a very profitable living off of their exploitation are the culprits. The US construction trade refused to establish and support quality training and apprenticeship programs and to pay proper wages, and instead chose to whinge about labor shortages. The hospitality sector refused to treat its workers properly with decent wages and working conditions and then complained that people didn't want to work in the sector. The social advocates who make a living off the misery of others were quick to justify social assistance programs that focused on creating long term social assistance recipients rather than an environment that put these people to work and so on.

Migrants can come into the USA legally. We see that with the farm workers. A majority of US farms rely on legal migrant farm workers. They are paid a reasonable wage and have legal rights. It isn't always perfect, but a far better situation than that of the migrants who work illegally on US farms. It is unfair to the US farmers who are labor law compliant and who have reduced profit margins to allow the non compliant farms to keep exploiting migrants and pocketing the profits. Your position is to allow a free for all, and an open border with the free flow of contraband and violent criminals. No thank you.

Do you not remember Ellis Island, the Statue of Liberty, where the US welcomed immigrants and only turned away those with tuberculosis? None of them spoke English!n The difference today is they're only targeting people of colour. That cancelling of diversity programmes is nothing but racism.

I don't believe the pardons of Jan 6 violent offenders is at all "normal" practice! Draft resisters and druggies are not violent! "Hundreds of thousands of criminals"! Ha! You must be drinking the Kool-Aid or reading different news than I!

And how are hard-working, family immigrants any kind of a "threat to national security"??? No more than any neighbour with a gun! Migrant workers are the linchpin of developed countries everywhere. "Violent and mentally ill"?!? The only mentally ill are govt sycophants.

Don't want an "underground economy"? Give them some way to pay. Migrant kids in the school system give American kids an exposure to language and culture not their own. You must have missed the memo: There is NO "health system" in the US! (We are all Luigi!)

"Lost-cost housing"?!? When have Americans ever cared about the poor or homeless?

You seem to think of "contributions" only in terms of dollars. Their hard work is their contribution to America. And I might add, they work a helluva lot harder than Americans. When's the last time you picked strawberries? Yeah, farmers operate on a slim margin. Now you want them to work for free?!?

Perhaps the UK has migrants on the dole. The US does not. Because they would be caught and deported!

The US has 340M people. Stats say the US could support 600M to 1B sustainably. So why not let people raise their economic status to support their families?

Detention and deportations should be handled on a case-by-case basis with recourse to the courts. Taking into account family status & work history, length of time in the US aso. The wholesale arrests of people not guilty of anything except an arbitrary border is heartless.

5 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Not everyone was pardoned by Trump. Commutation of sentence is not the same. The 14 ProudBoy/Oath Keepers who committed offences were not pardoned.

Have a look at the Vietnam era pardons, commutations and clemencies. Some of the beneficiaries of the 200,000 mass pardon by President Jimmy Carter included some people who had engaged in similar protests to those of the Jan 6. protesters. Although intended to address the draft evader population, it did pick up people who had participated in campus sit ins, attacks on social institutions and largescale protests, before they fled the country. You forget that the Vietnam War era protests were as bad as Jan. 6 if not worse in some cases. Buried in history are cases like this one;

RICHMOND, November 18, 1977 -- Virginia Gov. Mills E. Dodwin today pardoned three anti-Vietnam War protesters who have been jailed for the last 60 days for their role in a 1970 demonstration at a small Shenandoah Valley college.

Have a look at the long list of pardons and clemencies here; https://www.justice.gov/pardon/clemency-recipients

As I have stated, I do not agree with the Jan. 6 pardons, but they are consistent with past actions. Remember when Ford pardoned Nixon? At the time it was attacked and criticized, but over time has been seen as a necessary action needed to maintain social order and restore peace.

IOW, bulls*hit, Patong. "Pardoned for a campus demonstration". Which part of the First Amendment didn't they read?!? I was arrested 35 time for demonstrations in the 1960s peace movement. None of them involved any sort of violence. I am a Quaker pacifist and would never condone this.

"A top Trump ally in the Senate has criticised President Donald Trump's decision to issue a blanket pardon for his nearly 1,600 supporters arrested for their role in the Capitol riot on 6 January, 2021.

"Senator Lindsey Graham, a Republican from South Carolina, said on Sunday it was a "mistake" to pardon or commute the sentences of "people who went into the Capitol and beat up a police officer violently".

"At least 600 rioters were charged with assaulting or obstructing law enforcement officers in connection with the attack at the US Capitol.

"Vice-president JD Vance defended the pardons on Sunday, saying Trump had "made the right decision".

2 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

The difference today is they're only targeting people of colour.

That’s a flat out lie.

3 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

That cancelling of diversity programmes is nothing but racism.

Not. You’re using race as a tool to further your racist ideologue.

2 hours ago, riclag said:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/latin-kings-gang-member-accused-vandalizing-fbi-vehicle-stealing-government-property-minneapolis

That's exactly where I give up!

5 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

It was in response to Hanaguma's claim that arrests of non-targeted individuals incidental. That it only happened when ICE agents were searching for dangerous criminals. And now Kristi Noem is telling Americans that they should carry proof of citizenship with them.

And they actually needed to be told ?? I would have thought it was common sense to carry some ID on ones person considering the current situation. If a few non illegals get arrested so be it , its a price worth paying, they can clear their name down at the station. Assuming they behave themselves , and don't get themselves shot for doing something stupid

1 minute ago, Bday Prang said:

I would have thought it was common sense to carry some ID on ones person

There is something wrong with a so called "democratic country" if you believe that you have to carry ID!

Just look at UK's Labour's U/Turn on digital ID in the UK after all the opposition to it.

Its rather obvious that many on the left despise all law enforcement . So much so that they would support terrorist gangbangers, all forms of criminal, many support anarchy .

1 hour ago, bannork said:

A former Department of Homeland Security official has claimed that “animal control officers” get more training than Immigration and Customs Enforcement recruits.

Former D.C. Chief of Homeland Security and Intelligence Donell Harvin accused ICE of not practicing proper police safety.

“If you take the current DHS Secretary Kristi Noem, at her word, the ICE agent that shot Ms. Good was following his training, his tactics and policies,” the ex-DHS official told MS NOW’s Ana Cabrera Thursday.

“If that's the case and you take her at her word, then we have a big problem, because what we have is ICE agents that are not practicing proper police or law enforcement officer safety and survivability,” Harvin continued.

“I will tell you that in many states, you can become an animal control officer, but you need twice as much training,” Harvin said. “So think about that. Your local dog catcher will need more training to carry a firearm and execute warrants and arrest people than an ICE agent. And that's what's concerning.”

Animal control gets more training than ICE agents: ex-DHS official

You come with a unattributed pic and a independent news report that sites a “former DHS” source , who is possibly as bias as one of your last post using a ex fbi source who works fOR CNN.

babye

56 minutes ago, bannork said:

A former Department of Homeland Security official has claimed that “animal control officers” get more training than Immigration and Customs Enforcement recruits.

Former D.C. Chief of Homeland Security and Intelligence Donell Harvin accused ICE of not practicing proper police safety.

“If you take the current DHS Secretary Kristi Noem, at her word, the ICE agent that shot Ms. Good was following his training, his tactics and policies,” the ex-DHS official told MS NOW’s Ana Cabrera Thursday.

“If that's the case and you take her at her word, then we have a big problem, because what we have is ICE agents that are not practicing proper police or law enforcement officer safety and survivability,” Harvin continued.

“I will tell you that in many states, you can become an animal control officer, but you need twice as much training,” Harvin said. “So think about that. Your local dog catcher will need more training to carry a firearm and execute warrants and arrest people than an ICE agent. And that's what's concerning.”

Animal control gets more training than ICE agents: ex-DHS official

I would expect nothing different, for the same reason that a veterinary surgeons basic training takes longer than that for a Dr who treats humans. One big reason being the huge variety of species that a vet may encounter during his career, Same goes for anybody dealing with animals.

Immigration officials also deal only with one species "immigrantus illegalus" much easier by comparison, although there is a subspecies "immigrantus criminalis" no further training is required

Yoy posters don't do her justice they have predictably mentioned her motherhood but forgotten that she identfied as a lefty activist

1 hour ago, bannork said:

A former Department of Homeland Security official has claimed that “animal control officers” get more training than Immigration and Customs Enforcement recruits.

Former D.C. Chief of Homeland Security and Intelligence Donell Harvin accused ICE of not practicing proper police safety.

“If you take the current DHS Secretary Kristi Noem, at her word, the ICE agent that shot Ms. Good was following his training, his tactics and policies,” the ex-DHS official told MS NOW’s Ana Cabrera Thursday.

“If that's the case and you take her at her word, then we have a big problem, because what we have is ICE agents that are not practicing proper police or law enforcement officer safety and survivability,” Harvin continued.

“I will tell you that in many states, you can become an animal control officer, but you need twice as much training,” Harvin said. “So think about that. Your local dog catcher will need more training to carry a firearm and execute warrants and arrest people than an ICE agent. And that's what's concerning.”

Animal control gets more training than ICE agents: ex-DHS official

Who is that in the picture ?

50 minutes ago, novacova said:

That’s a flat out lie.

Not. You’re using race as a tool to further your racist ideologue.

Through their teeth!

Google ai overview:

“No,

ICEdoes notonlyarrest people of color, but reports and advocacy groups highlight disproportionate focus on Latinos, increased arrests of other groups like Black immigrants, and concerns about racial profiling leading to detention of U.S. citizens and lawful residents based on appearance or language, though ICE emphasizes enforcement on security threats, not race. Enforcement has surged, affecting various communities, with significant increases in Latino arrests, but also targeting Black immigrants and leading to wrongful detentions of citizens”.

27 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

There is something wrong with a so called "democratic country" if you have to carry ID!

Just look at UK's Labour's U/Turn on digital ID in the UK after all the opposition to it.

I'm not saying I agree with ID cards, just that it would be wise to carry some ID considering the current situation.

Many democratic European countries have ID cards, I don't think its contrary to democracy however it not something I support for the UK

8 minutes ago, riclag said:

Its rather obvious that many on the left despise all law enforcement . So much so that they would support terrorist gangbangers, all forms of criminal, many support anarchy .

You come with a unattributed pic and a independent news report that sites a “former DHS” source , who is possibly as bias as one of your last post using a ex fbi source who works fOR CNN.

babye

The left has gone completely and irrationally mad, there’s no point debating them any further and all that’s left is whacking the left’s goofy piñata and exposing what they’re made of. That’s it, it’s all what’s left.

9 minutes ago, novacova said:

The left has gone completely and irrationally mad, there’s no point debating them any further and all that’s left is whacking the left’s goofy piñata and exposing what they’re made of. That’s it, it’s all what’s left.

This is why the leftist get delusional using the race card talking points.Millions of illegals are of color.

Google ai overview

“while traditionally dominated by people from Mexico and Central America (like Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador), recent years have seen a significant diversification in nationalities crossing the U.S. border, including large numbers from Venezuela, Ecuador, Haiti, and even distant countries in Africa (Senegal, Ghana), Asia (China, India, Bangladesh, Nepal), and the Middle East (Afghanistan, Syria). Mexicans remain the largest single nationality, but people of various races and ethnicities are arriving from across the Americas and the globe”

53 minutes ago, blaze master said:

Who is that in the picture ?

A "butter wouldn't melt in her mouth " all American "mom" (and lefty activist) who is now presumably in heaven along with the saintly George Floyd" It a good job she wasn't black, there would then be marches and (" generally peaceful") riots to organise and of course a statue to be commissioned

The lefties would have trouble giving their cause a name though,as I believe "White lives matter" is considered problematic in the woke community

1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:

A "butter wouldn't melt in her mouth " all American "mom" (and lefty activist) who is now presumably in heaven along with the saintly George Floyd" It a good job she wasn't black, there would then be marches and (" generally peaceful") riots to organise and of course a statue to be commissioned

The lefties would have trouble giving their cause a name though,as I believe "White lives matter" is considered problematic in the woke community

not the same person that was killed.

The medical examiner's office of El Paso County, Texas, will likely rule the death of a 55-year-old Cuban Immigration and Customs Enforcement detainee a homicide. According to The Washington Post, Geraldo Lunas Campos' death was originally announced by ICE officials two weeks ago, with no stated cause.

However, "an employee of El Paso County’s Office of the Medical Examiner told Lunas Campos’s daughter this week that, subject to results of a toxicology report, the office is likely to classify the death as a homicide. According to a recording of the conversation," said the report. "In the recording ... the employee said a doctor there 'is listing the preliminary cause of death as asphyxia due to neck and chest compression'.

Santos Jesus Flores, who was detained in the same segregation unit as Lunas Campos, told The Post "he saw at least five guards struggling with Lunas Campos after he refused to enter the segregation unit, complaining that he didn’t have his medications. Flores said he saw guards choking Lunas Campos and heard Lunas Campos repeatedly saying, 'No puedo respirar' — Spanish for 'I can’t breathe.' Medical staff tried to resuscitate him for an hour, after which they took his body away, Flores said."

ICE detainee's death will likely be ruled a homicide: report

The Trump Administration has pumped millions into advertisements for ICE jobs – offering recruitment bonuses of up to $50,000 and student loan assistance to entice Americans. And it’s working. The hiring spree has added some 10,000 new employees,

One reporter, Laura Jedeed, from Slate, applied on a whim at a career expo in Texas to see what happened. She was offered a position within days, and despite not accepting, they emailed her again with a message reading: ‘Thank you for confirming that you wish to continue with the hiring process.’

She was then asked to complete a drug test, which she did, despite having consuming cannabis days before (it’s legal where she lives). After sending off her urine for the job’s drug test, days later, she was still cleared to work – and she didn’t submit a background check, domestic violence affidavit, or identification information.

Within days, Laura had been given the job of a deportation officer.

ICE adds 10,000 more people to its ranks – so how easy exactly is it to join?

Reporting following the latest incidents across Minnesota, WIRED found that ICE agents have been involved in a vast number of incidents aside from the Good shooting.

After examining a raft of records, including ICE incident data, the publication found that shootings have involved moving vehicles at least 19 times. Those car-based shootings have been connected to at least 10 deaths and six injuries, while task forces including agents have shot at least three other US citizens.

The publication also discovered that agents have shot in public areas with bystanders 22 times, and in seven cases a person shot by an ICE officer was not the target of any enforcement action.

Real reason ICE officers escape punishment as agents 'involved in dozens of shootings'

4 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

IOW, bulls*hit, Patong. "Pardoned for a campus demonstration". Which part of the First Amendment didn't they read?!? I was arrested 35 time for demonstrations in the 1960s peace movement. None of them involved any sort of violence. I am a Quaker pacifist and would never condone this.

"A top Trump ally in the Senate has criticised President Donald Trump's decision to issue a blanket pardon for his nearly 1,600 supporters arrested for their role in the Capitol riot on 6 January, 2021.

"Senator Lindsey Graham, a Republican from South Carolina, said on Sunday it was a "mistake" to pardon or commute the sentences of "people who went into the Capitol and beat up a police officer violently".

"At least 600 rioters were charged with assaulting or obstructing law enforcement officers in connection with the attack at the US Capitol.

"Vice-president JD Vance defended the pardons on Sunday, saying Trump had "made the right decision".

For a Quaker pacifist, you sure do have some very strident overbearing aggressive positions that are not particularly invoking of a person who believes in peace and non conflict. I am not excusing or justifying the pardons/commutations, but I can see that they were not unusual from past actions.

There were most certainly violent campus demonstrations and public violence in the 1960's that resulted in physical injuries and property damage. Some were the;

-1967 Pentagon riots

-1970 national student strike

-1971 MayDay riots that lasted 3 days

More specifically, Throughout September and October 1968, activists bombed war-related spaces at or near universities on a nearly daily basis. Over 4,000 bombs exploded on college campuses between January 1st, 1969 and April 15th, 1970. And in the one week following the Kent State shooting on May 4th, 1970, over a million students protested at over a thousand colleges, and 169 bombs exploded on university grounds.

Source: Resistance from the Right: Conservatives and the Campus Wars in Modern America, Dr. Lauren Lassabe Shepherd . And before you dismiss this historian as MAGA, she believes that neither Trump nor the conservative agenda is actually very popular.

President Andrew Johnson pardoned thousands of people, a large number of whom had been confederates opposed to the union including Congress members, government officials and ranking military officers. And then in a final proclamation on December 25, 1868, Johnson declared "unconditionally, and without reservation, ... a full pardon and amnesty for the offence of treason against the United States, or of adhering to their enemies during the late civil war, with restoration of all rights, privileges, and immunities under the Constitution and the laws". I believe a precedent was set by President Johnson.

Well Trump still waits for his Nobel prize, for having started a civil war in the US.

The new message from Mayor Frey & Gov Walz and other Minnesota Dem politicians is, straight up insanity.

"There goes the neighborhood" , in the video its shows one of the accused attackers, laughing. Minnesota dem says Stand up for your neighbors, as they downplay assaulting Fed agents with rocks,hitting cars, obstructing & interfering with fed LE. The video shows them vandalizing a FBI car and stealing the contents. There was a leftist commentator suggesting "these folk are acting in the name of the country".Below 7:22 length video.

Operation “Metro Surge” has brought together a rarely seen patchwork of agencies far from the border: three-quarters are from ICE Enforcement and Removal Operations, AP reported, working alongside agents from Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) and Customs and Border Patrol (CBP). 

This blending of uniforms, mandates and chains of command made it nearly impossible for civilians to know who was stopping them, under what authority, and what rights they retained.

Unlike law enforcement agents like police, who are trained in de-escalation tactics, ICE officers appear to relish doing the opposite. Training has been significantly shortened, with NBC reporting that it was cut from 13 weeks to six – a move one former ICE agent described to Time magazine as “a recipe for disaster”.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents, including one wearing a "NOT ICE" face covering, walk near their vehicles on January 15, 2026, in Richfield, Minnesota.© Adam Gray, AP

That broader lack of professionalism has fed into another flashpoint in the operation: the use of masks by immigration agents. Acting ICE director Todd Lyons said the practice is intended to prevent officers from being doxxed. But it actually “spurs dangerous impersonations, impedes accountability for officers who are engaged in misconduct, and undermines trust in law enforcement”, the Center for American Progress argued in a report released on August 2025, when hundreds of officers from nearly 20 federal agencies were deployed to the streets of Washington. 

'An occupying force': Minneapolis caught up in Trump’s anti-immigration surge

In a confidential bulletin circulated to law enforcement agencies last month, the FBI even warned that criminals across several states have been posing as ICE officers to commit robberies, kidnappings and sexual assaults. 

2 hours ago, riclag said:

The new message from Mayor Frey & Gov Walz and other Minnesota Dem politicians is, straight up insanity.

"There goes the neighborhood" , in the video its shows one of the accused attackers, laughing. Minnesota dem says Stand up for your neighbors, as they downplay assaulting Fed agents with rocks,hitting cars, obstructing & interfering with fed LE. The video shows them vandalizing a FBI car and stealing the contents. There was a leftist commentator suggesting "these folk are acting in the name of the country".Below 7:22 length video.

Americans need better messaging ! Laura hits the nail on the head but she needs to go deeper.

Google ai overview:

"Freedom Road Socialist Organization (FRSO): Described as a Marxist-Leninist group that is deeply involved in the anti-ICE protests and has connections to activists within the "ICE Watch" network".

"Antifa/Anarchist Networks: Reports indicate that "ICE Watch" actions are aligned with broader efforts by anarchist-communist groups to disrupt federal immigration enforcement".

16 hours ago, riclag said:

Its rather obvious that many on the left despise all law enforcement . So much so that they would support terrorist gangbangers, all forms of criminal, many support anarchy .

Daft post of the day, go get your head sorted out, chap.....☹️

.

15 hours ago, riclag said:

Through their teeth!

Google ai overview:

“No,

ICEdoes notonlyarrest people of color, but reports and advocacy groups highlight disproportionate focus on Latinos, increased arrests of other groups like Black immigrants, and concerns about racial profiling leading to detention of U.S. citizens and lawful residents based on appearance or language, though ICE emphasizes enforcement on security threats, not race. Enforcement has surged, affecting various communities, with significant increases in Latino arrests, but also targeting Black immigrants and leading to wrongful detentions of citizens”.

Any AI quote is meaningless without the AI source and the exact question asked.

11 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

For a Quaker pacifist, you sure do have some very strident overbearing aggressive positions that are not particularly invoking of a person who believes in peace and non conflict. I am not excusing or justifying the pardons/commutations, but I can see that they were not unusual from past actions.

There were most certainly violent campus demonstrations and public violence in the 1960's that resulted in physical injuries and property damage. Some were the;

-1967 Pentagon riots

-1970 national student strike

-1971 MayDay riots that lasted 3 days

More specifically, Throughout September and October 1968, activists bombed war-related spaces at or near universities on a nearly daily basis. Over 4,000 bombs exploded on college campuses between January 1st, 1969 and April 15th, 1970. And in the one week following the Kent State shooting on May 4th, 1970, over a million students protested at over a thousand colleges, and 169 bombs exploded on university grounds.

Source: Resistance from the Right: Conservatives and the Campus Wars in Modern America, Dr. Lauren Lassabe Shepherd . And before you dismiss this historian as MAGA, she believes that neither Trump nor the conservative agenda is actually very popular.

President Andrew Johnson pardoned thousands of people, a large number of whom had been confederates opposed to the union including Congress members, government officials and ranking military officers. And then in a final proclamation on December 25, 1868, Johnson declared "unconditionally, and without reservation, ... a full pardon and amnesty for the offence of treason against the United States, or of adhering to their enemies during the late civil war, with restoration of all rights, privileges, and immunities under the Constitution and the laws". I believe a precedent was set by President Johnson.

Do you agree with student protesters being banned from staging praceful anti Israel genocide protests on university campuses?

The US is a democratic country, Trump was elected so stop crying and cast your vote for someone else next time.

I can't believe how childish and resentful the poster who wanted Biden as president are. Get over it.