30 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Foreigners can't own land in Thailand. Well debated in the past. Done and dusted.

Rubbish.

You can talk about the floating condo all you like.

Talk about the land.

The Land is jointly owned by all Condo Owners as "Common Property" through the Condo Juristic Management in proportion to the size of your Condo's area.

Yes you cannot point to your particular piece of Land & stick a stake in it, nor can you sell it without selling the Condo BUT you do own that proportion of the overall land that the Condo is on.

Similar to how Nominee Companies work where the Company owns the land and you own part of the company but a lot less "Grey" in terms of legality.

Edit: This sums it up better than I can...

Key Points on Condo Land Ownership

• Common Property Status: The land, foundation, exterior walls, lobby, pool, and hallways are considered common property shared by all co-owners.

• Juristic Person Management: The land is legally held under the condominium’s juristic person, which is managed collectively by the unit owners.

• Proportional Ownership: Your share of the land is calculated based on the ratio of your unit's area to the total area of all units.

• Title Deed (Or Chor 2): The condo title deed, known as Or Chor 2, records both the private unit ownership and the corresponding percentage of shared common property.

• Foreigner Rights: Foreigners can own condo units freehold (up to 49% of project area), which includes this joint stake in the land.

In summary: No single person owns the land; all unit owners own it together via the juristic entity.

I’d buy a condo in Thailand to live in for one simple reason. I could finally own my own mattress and sofa instead of being at the mercy of whatever the landlord decides to provide.

As I get older the condo facilities and fancy stuff doesn't suit me anymore. Would still like a view.

Something like this in an older building would be just fine.

https://www.livinginsider.com/livingdetail_en/2890978/Urgent-sale-Baan-Sathorn-Chao-Phraya-Condo-61-14-sq-m-high-floor-180-degree-Chao-Phraya-River-v.html

4 minutes ago, Celsius said:

I’d buy a condo in Thailand to live in for one simple reason. I could finally own my own mattress and sofa instead of being at the mercy of whatever the landlord decides to provide.

You can buy new furniture in a rented place.

The landlord won't stop you if you pay and it doesn't diminish the apartment in any way.

Or you can ask them to pay part of it.

1 hour ago, KhunHeineken said:

Foreigners can't own land in Thailand. Well debated in the past. Done and dusted.

Rubbish.

You can talk about the floating condo all you like.

Talk about the land.

Wrong

This guy is talking about some issues he is having with his condo in Jomtien.

He doesn't regret buying or advise people never to buy a condo in Thailand, but he has a list of issues and problems.

1 hour ago, Celsius said:

I’d buy a condo in Thailand to live in for one simple reason. I could finally own my own mattress and sofa instead of being at the mercy of whatever the landlord decides to provide.

As I get older the condo facilities and fancy stuff doesn't suit me anymore. Would still like a view.

Something like this in an older building would be just fine.

https://www.livinginsider.com/livingdetail_en/2890978/Urgent-sale-Baan-Sathorn-Chao-Phraya-Condo-61-14-sq-m-high-floor-180-degree-Chao-Phraya-River-v.html

What’s up with the wonky floor-plan design? The bathroom has the best view? And cleaning behind that tub would be a pain.

14 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

The question really should be, "Why do people think they actually own the property?" 😂

Ahhh, deflection, how clever. 😂

14 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

If you divide the price of a new car by the cost of your average Bolt ride to and from your regular places, such as bars, restaurants, shopping centers etc, it would probably end up being over 10,000 journeys, and no taxes, fees, gasoline, insurance, and maintenance to pay for, not to mention the risk of being in a serious accident, in which the farang is always at fault.

So your too smart to own a car as well. 😂😂

14 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

Well, that's a difficult question, but I'll try to answer it for you. Your wife owns it, not you. I think that covers it. 😂

Well, she is my wife, so we own everything together. If we split up, I would keep a greater percentage of other assets to make up for the value of the real estate she wanted to keep.

Only small money looks at a home as an investment.

On 2/2/2026 at 4:33 PM, KhunHeineken said:

Ahhhh, the old, "rent is dead money" theory. It's not true in Thailand. In Thailand, buying is dead money.

Argument is pointless unless you factor in relationship status.

Most women do not want to rent. Buying a house or condo shows you are committed to the relationship. And it's culture. Most women will pressure you to buy.

If you're single, there are benefits to renting. You can change location on a dime and the rents are cheap.

But some people have so much savings that it makes more sense to buy ... because keeping your money in a bank account isn't entirely without risks either with deflating value of the dollar etc ... everyone needs to crunch their own numbers.

12 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Argument is pointless unless you factor in relationship status.

Most women do not want to rent. Buying a house or condo shows you are committed to the relationship. And it's culture. Most women will pressure you to buy.

If you're single, there are benefits to renting. You can change location on a dime and the rents are cheap.

But some people have so much savings that it makes more sense to buy ... because keeping your money in a bank account isn't entirely without risks either with deflating value of the dollar etc ... everyone needs to crunch their own numbers.

The "never buy" crowd will tell you not to put your money in bank either, particularly a Thai bank. They are much too smart to do that. They would never tie up enough capital to get a visa without an agent.

These people are financial wizards and live a life of wealth and privilege you and I only dream of.

10 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

The "never buy" crowd will tell you not to put your money in bank either, particularly a Thai bank.

for USA folks, it would have been a good hedge against the depreciating dollar to keep money in Thai Baht over the past year .... but it's all hindsight.

Not too many people are financial whiz kids who can predict the future.

11 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

It's your deflection that says it loud and clear to all.

Huh? Maybe the most ridiculous post so far of 2026. With a number of your posts, recently and in the past, you have both misquoted me and put words in my mouth that I never said or meant. When I challenge you to show the quote I supposedly said, you say I am 'deflecting'. Utter nonsense. But nice deflecting--loud and clear--on your part, since you couldn't find those quotes, since they don't exist.

12 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

Foreigners can't own land in Thailand. Well debated in the past. Done and dusted.

Rubbish.

You can talk about the floating condo all you like.

Talk about the land.

Wow--and that was fast! This is the most ridiculous post so far for 2026. And, I'm claiming dibs on it for Asean Now's Most Ridiculous Post of the Year contest. I'm told I came sooo close to winning last year with one of KH's posts. For those of you disappointed, fear not, another worthy KH post for the contest will likely be along shortly--perhaps even his response to this one! As they say, stay posted!

This, by the way, is classic KH. Rather than posting everything that was in my post to get the correct meaning of the post, he has selectively cut and pasted just parts of it. But, worse this time--but not unusual for him--he has attributed everything that he cut and pasted as coming out of MY MOUTH. As being MY take on foreign condo ownership. So, misquoting once again.

Take another look at his first post. You'll see "Newnative says:" followed by a statement that was cut and pasted. Example: "NEWNATIVE SAYS: The land a condominium sits on is collectively owned by all unit owners."

So, what's wrong with that, you might ask. Well, what's wrong is Newnative didn't say that, nor the other statement that he boldly posts, "Newnative says". What he quotes ME as saying was actually GOOGLE quoting what is in Thailand's Condominium Act. When you're being deceitful, isn't it so much easier to call something 'rubbish' if it's passed off as just the opinion of an individual rather than the actual law of the Thailand Condominium Act.

Then, if that's not enough, he says, of me, "You can talk about the floating condo all you like." Once again, misquoting me, since I have no earthly idea what a 'floating condo' might possibly be in KH's mind, and I have certainly NOT 'talked about' it in any post.

7 hours ago, newnative said:

Wow--and that was fast! This is the most ridiculous post so far for 2026. And, I'm claiming dibs on it for Asean Now's Most Ridiculous Post of the Year contest. I'm told I came sooo close to winning last year with one of KH's posts. For those of you disappointed, fear not, another worthy KH post for the contest will likely be along shortly--perhaps even his response to this one! As they say, stay posted!

This, by the way, is classic KH. Rather than posting everything that was in my post to get the correct meaning of the post, he has selectively cut and pasted just parts of it. But, worse this time--but not unusual for him--he has attributed everything that he cut and pasted as coming out of MY MOUTH. As being MY take on foreign condo ownership. So, misquoting once again.

Take another look at his first post. You'll see "Newnative says:" followed by a statement that was cut and pasted. Example: "NEWNATIVE SAYS: The land a condominium sits on is collectively owned by all unit owners."

So, what's wrong with that, you might ask. Well, what's wrong is Newnative didn't say that, nor the other statement that he boldly posts, "Newnative says". What he quotes ME as saying was actually GOOGLE quoting what is in Thailand's Condominium Act. When you're being deceitful, isn't it so much easier to call something 'rubbish' if it's passed off as just the opinion of an individual rather than the actual law of the Thailand Condominium Act.

Then, if that's not enough, he says, of me, "You can talk about the floating condo all you like." Once again, misquoting me, since I have no earthly idea what a 'floating condo' might possibly be in KH's mind, and I have certainly NOT 'talked about' it in any post.

You post is the most deflective post in 2026, and I'm claiming dibs on it.

A foreigner can't own land in Thailand. Simple as that.

The x30 x 30 is not enforceable at Thai law.

Now, on the "investment" side of things, see below. Condo's are such a great investment, no one is buying them. 😂

Ahhhh, but you say they are "homes" for expats. I can rent the same condo that is for sale with the interest earned from the purchase price and still have some left over, and don't give me your "I like my own furniture" BS. I have my own bedding and entertainment system in my rented condo. The dinning table and lounge were great, so they remained.

nationthailand

Thai Property Market Faces Worst Slowdown in Nearly 30 Years

Thailand’s real estate market faces its worst slump since the 1997 crisis, with over 400,000 unsold condos. High debt and rising interest rates hamper recovery.

"Thailand’s real estate market faces its worst slump since the 1997 crisis, with over 400,000 unsold condos."

1 minute ago, KhunHeineken said:

You post is the most deflective post in 2026, and I'm claiming dibs on it.

A foreigner can't own land in Thailand. Simple as that.

The x30 x 30 is not enforceable at Thai law.

Now, on the "investment" side of things, see below. Condo's are such a great investment, no one is buying them. 😂

Ahhhh, but you say they are "homes" for expats. I can rent the same condo that is for sale with the interest earned from the purchase price and still have some left over, and don't give me your "I like my own furniture" BS. I have my own bedding and entertainment system in my rented condo. The dinning table and lounge were great, so they remained.

nationthailand

Thai Property Market Faces Worst Slowdown in Nearly 30 Years

Thailand’s real estate market faces its worst slump since the 1997 crisis, with over 400,000 unsold condos. High debt and rising interest rates hamper recovery.

"Thailand’s real estate market faces its worst slump since the 1997 crisis, with over 400,000 unsold condos."

Only small money guys talk about a home as an investment.

8 hours ago, newnative said:

Huh? Maybe the most ridiculous post so far of 2026. With a number of your posts, recently and in the past, you have both misquoted me and put words in my mouth that I never said or meant. When I challenge you to show the quote I supposedly said, you say I am 'deflecting'. Utter nonsense. But nice deflecting--loud and clear--on your part, since you couldn't find those quotes, since they don't exist.

Stop deflecting and explain how a foreigner can own LAND in Thailand.

10 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Argument is pointless unless you factor in relationship status.

Most women do not want to rent. Buying a house or condo shows you are committed to the relationship. And it's culture. Most women will pressure you to buy.

Probably why many are "suicided" not long after purchase.

Seriously, if a Thai women doesn't like the fact you rent, "there's the door, teeruk."

Plenty more where she came from.

Surely the penny must drop that she's thinking of inheritance, rather than a current loving relationship.

10 hours ago, save the frogs said:

If you're single, there are benefits to renting. You can change location on a dime and the rents are cheap.

I'm single, but guess what, the same benefits exist for expats in a relationship.

10 hours ago, save the frogs said:

But some people have so much savings that it makes more sense to buy ... because keeping your money in a bank account isn't entirely without risks either with deflating value of the dollar etc ... everyone needs to crunch their own numbers.

Sure, but we are talking about foreign ownership of property in Thailand, which has so many horror stories, not to mention Thailand doesn't even over a reasonable pathway to to PR or citizenship.

I'm not adverse to risk, but I have crunched the numbers and it makes no sense to buy.

5 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Probably why many are "suicided" not long after purchase.

Seriously, if a Thai women doesn't like the fact you rent, "there's the door, teeruk."

Plenty more where she came from.

Surely the penny must drop that she's thinking of inheritance, rather than a current loving relationship.

I'm single, but guess what, the same benefits exist for expats in a relationship.

Sure, but we are talking about foreign ownership of property in Thailand, which has so many horror stories, not to mention Thailand doesn't even over a reasonable pathway to to PR or citizenship.

I'm not adverse to risk, but I have crunched the numbers and it makes no sense to buy.

Hey Small Money, any data to back up your spew?

10 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Ahhh, deflection, how clever.

No, serious question.

How about YOU explain who owns the land foreign owned condo's sit on.

10 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

So your too smart to own a car as well.

A foreigner can own a car in their name here. I have no problem with it. Property is different.

10 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Well, she is my wife, so we own everything together.

No, on paper, she owns it.

10 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

If we split up, I would keep a greater percentage of other assets to make up for the value of the real estate she wanted to keep.

Of course you would, because she's "different." 😂

10 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Only small money looks at a home as an investment.

I see property ownership in Thailand for it is, a bad idea, and a poor use of funds.

2 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

No, serious question.

How about YOU explain who owns the land foreign owned condo's sit on.

A foreigner can own a car in their name here. I have no problem with it. Property is different.

No, on paper, she owns it.

Of course you would, because she's "different." 😂

I see property ownership in Thailand for it is, a bad idea, and a poor use of funds.

Answer my questions and I'll answer yours.

Keep renting Small Money.

20 hours ago, donx said:

Wrong

How about YOU explain how a foreigner can own land in Thailand.

2 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

How about YOU explain how a foreigner can own land in Thailand.

Hey Small Money, if you'll explain what kind of punka** lowlife trash talks smack about another man's wife in a discussion about buying a condo, I'll explain how a foreigner can own land in Thailand legally.

21 hours ago, SamSpade said:

Similar to how Nominee Companies work where the Company owns the land and you own part of the company but a lot less "Grey" in terms of legality.

Which is illegal, right? 😂

No, a foreigner does not own the land their condo sits on.

A foreigner can not own land in Thailand.

24 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Which is illegal, right? 😂

No, a foreigner does not own the land their condo sits on.

A foreigner can not own land in Thailand.

No it's not illegal if the company is an active company, it is illegal if it's a shell company set-up with the sole purpose of purchasing property/land.

Again, the Land is owned by the Condo Juristic and the foreigner owns a propertion of the land based on the size of their condo (this is included on their title deed).

34 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

No, a foreigner does not own the land their condo sits on.

Has a foreigner ever lost property rights on a condo?

I have never heard any stories like that and I think the condo property rights are ok, as far as I know.

3 minutes ago, SamSpade said:

No it's not illegal if the company is an active company, it is illegal if it's a shell company set-up with the sole purpose of purchasing property/land.

Again, the Land is owned by the Condo Juristic and the foreigner owns a propertion of the land based on the size of their condo (this is included on their title deed).

Perfectly legal if the company is legitimate.

54 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

You post is the most deflective post in 2026, and I'm claiming dibs on it.

A foreigner can't own land in Thailand. Simple as that.

The x30 x 30 is not enforceable at Thai law.

Now, on the "investment" side of things, see below. Condo's are such a great investment, no one is buying them. 😂

Ahhhh, but you say they are "homes" for expats. I can rent the same condo that is for sale with the interest earned from the purchase price and still have some left over, and don't give me your "I like my own furniture" BS. I have my own bedding and entertainment system in my rented condo. The dinning table and lounge were great, so they remained.

nationthailand

Thai Property Market Faces Worst Slowdown in Nearly 30 Years

Thailand’s real estate market faces its worst slump since the 1997 crisis, with over 400,000 unsold condos. High debt and rising interest rates hamper recovery.

"Thailand’s real estate market faces its worst slump since the 1997 crisis, with over 400,000 unsold condos."

Deflective? That's rich--your whole post is yet another deflection. Once again, do quote me where I stated that foreigners can own land in Thailand. Never have I made such a statement, since it isn't true.

What I have said, is foreigners can own a condo in their name, provided the condo project has foreign quota available when they buy. They will get a chanote with their name on it, in Thai. Now, does the foreign quota condo owner own the land under the condo? No. Neither does the Thai condo owner living next door. Simply stated, they each own a portion of the condo project's PUBLIC AREA, which includes the land, based on the size of their condo. Got it?

This is really not brain surgery or rocket science--I don't know why you are struggling so hard to grasp the concept. And, once again for the hard of hearing, this is not my opinion on the subject. This is the Thailand Condominium Act.

I'm not going to debate yet again renting vs. buying. As always, it's what floats your boat. You prefer to rent--nothing wrong with that. I prefer to own--nothing wrong with that, either. Why don't you just be happy renting and let us be happy owning? I don't give a thought to you renting but you seem to spend an inordinate amount of time obsessing on those of us who own.

1 hour ago, KhunHeineken said:

Stop deflecting and explain how a foreigner can own LAND in Thailand.

Foreigners can't own land in Thailand in their name so nothing to 'explain' there. Foreigners can own a condo in their name, if there is foreign quota available in the condo project. See my latest post where I explain the land thing once again to you. Or, feel free to read the easy-to-understand posts by others that also explain the land thing to you, which is really quite simple. Maybe one will finally sink in--but I'm not holding out hope.