34 minutes ago, Wingate said:

Either he or the truck driver will soon be posting a thread that Mr. Pretti was shot by Joe Biden, from a grassy knoll, with Jimmy Kimmel's childhood BB gun.

Jimmy ? I could believe it if he ever stopped bubbling and crying. I see why you look up to him though.

On 1/28/2026 at 1:47 PM, Yagoda said:

Got it. So you think that it is OK for organized groups getting foreign money to attack and destroy private property and assault Law Enforcement.

Its always good when folks positions are clear. Do you have a line you would draw? Would murder of ICE agents be acceptable? Or just assaults and destruction?

"Got it. So you think that it is OK for organized groups getting foreign money to attack and destroy private property and assault Law Enforcement."

People on AN like to cite logical fallacies sometimes correctly sometimes not.

This is a definitive example of the Straw Man fallacy and is a tactic that Mr. Yagoda uses often,

Definition of the straw man fallacy:

"logical fallacy where someone misrepresents, exaggerates, or fabricates an opponent's argument to make it easier to attack or defeat."

1 minute ago, blaze master said:

Jimmy ? I could believe it if he ever stopped bubbling and crying. I see why you look up to him though.

ignoring you blaze master

1 minute ago, sharot724 said:

ignoring you blaze master

Sweet. Bye.

4 minutes ago, sharot724 said:

ignoring you blaze master

Knife to a gunfight and whatnot

9 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Yeah, but you've never worked as a cop.

Cops will shoot in a chaotic situation if they think their life may be threatened.

Someone yelled "gun" and maybe the gun went off when the agent removed it.

Point is it was a chaotic situation and the cops need to worry about being shot.

So ten rounds in the back, in a matter of seconds, while the victim was pinned to the ground, having already been pepper sprayed and repeatedly punched?

You clearly (and probably justifiably) have very little confidence in the training, competence discipline and self control of these "Federal agencies"

If I had to hazard a guess (who knows, if there is eventually a proper investigation we may one day know) he may have been identified as the savage breaker of tail lights, and "word was out" to "get him"!

1 minute ago, JAG said:

So ten rounds in the back, in a matter of seconds,

But you are taking it out of context.

First of all, you are assuming there is not a violent, anarchist movement rising which could catapult the whole country into civil unrest.

Second of all, as I mentioned many times, you go out and be an ICE agent and get harassed day in and day out by mobs for months on end and see if you won't lose your cool and draw your gun.

1 minute ago, JAG said:

So ten rounds in the back, in a matter of seconds, while the victim was pinned to the ground, having already been pepper sprayed and repeatedly punched?

You clearly (and probably justifiably) have very little confidence in the training, competence discipline and self control of these "Federal agencies"

If I had to hazard a guess (who knows, if there is eventually a proper investigation we may one day know) he may have been identified as the savage breaker of tail lights, and "word was out" to "get him"!

Your position is that they recognized him as someone they had previously let go after kicking out a taillight and decided to kill him for it?

That makes sense.

Fraud in Minnesota is expected to be 100 Billion dollars.

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Your position is that they recognized him as someone they had previously let go after kicking out a taillight and decided to kill him for it?

That makes sense.

Not my position, but a possible scenario?

5 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

But you are taking it out of context.

First of all, you are assuming there is not a violent, anarchist movement rising which could catapult the whole country into civil unrest.

Second of all, as I mentioned many times, you go out and be an ICE agent and get harassed day in and day out by mobs for months on end and see if you won't lose your cool and draw your gun.

Anyone who served in the army in the urban areas of Northern Ireland through the 70s and 80s went through that and worse. We didn't shoot people willy nilly, we exercised restraint and employed minimal force.

Rural areas were different, more akin to Counter Revolutionary (CR) operations. We still didn't kill in that way.

But then we were a trained and disciplined force.

2 minutes ago, JAG said:

But then we were a trained and disciplined force.

It's possible they cut corners on training because there are too many illegals to deport in a short amount of time.

2 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

But you are taking it out of context.

First of all, you are assuming there is not a violent, anarchist movement rising which could catapult the whole country into civil unrest.

Second of all, as I mentioned many times, you go out and be an ICE agent and get harassed day in and day out by mobs for months on end and see if you won't lose your cool and draw your gun.

People sitting in a comfy chair watching video frame by frame are all real brave talking second guessing law enforcement officers that are likely afraid for their lives.

These brave leftists would wait until they are fired on or run over, and only then would they shoot the gun out of the suspect's hand (like Marcial Dillon) or shoot the tires out of the suspect's car (like Baretta).

3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

It's possible they cut corners on training because there are too many illegals to deport in a short amount of time.

It is also possible that they are not trained to deal with angry mobs of protestors that hate them, and want to stop them from doing their jobs.

11 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Fraud in Minnesota is expected to be 100 Billion dollars.

Blimey, talk about high speed mobile goalposts!

11 minutes ago, JAG said:

Not my position, but a possible scenario?

That you think it a possible scenario explains a lot.

11 minutes ago, JAG said:

A lot of us who served in support of the Civil Police in the urban areas of Northern Ireland through the 70s and 80s went through that and worse. We didn't shoot people willy nilly, we exercised restraint and employed minimal force.

But then we were a trained and disciplined force.

What were you heroes trained to do? Was the local citizenry attacking you in the streets for trying to do it?

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

It is also possible that they are not trained to deal with angry mobs of protestors that hate them, and want to stop them from doing their jobs.

My blood pressure goes up watching those videos.

That is a highly stressful job.

And no cop will put someone else's life above their own life.

If a cop is in doubt, they will shoot.

Add months of stress and you have a recipe for accidents.

24 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Fraud in Minnesota is expected to be 100 Billion dollars.

AI Gemini:

Where the "$100 Billion" Comes From

The figure you likely heard is from a Government Accountability Office (GAO) report estimating that there was at least $100 billion in pandemic-era unemployment insurance fraud across all 50 states.

While Minnesota is currently being called "ground zero" for fraud investigations by federal officials, its specific estimated losses—while record-breaking—are significantly lower than $100 billion.

4 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

My blood pressure goes up watching those videos.

That is a highly stressful job.

And no cop will put someone else's life above their own life.

If a cop is in doubt, they will shoot.

Add months of stress and you have a recipe for accidents.

The anti-ICE crowd is going on and on about the number of shots fired and lack of training. Law enforcement in the US is trained to fire multiple shots at the center of mass in rapid succession, until the threat is eliminated.

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

My blood pressure goes up watching those videos.

That is a highly stressful job.

And no cop will put someone else's life above their own life.

If a cop is in doubt, they will shoot.

Add months of stress and you have a recipe for accidents.

Incredible stressful hog tying 73 year old South Asian grandmothers and 5 year old boys.

How do those stormtroopers do it?

3 minutes ago, Wingate said:

Incredible stressful hog tying 73 year old South Asian grandmothers and 5 year old boys.

How do those stormtroopers do it?

You're back from your workout?

Did you break a sweat or did you fake your way through it?

You really want to know the secret how they do it ?? --- They don't. It's fake news.

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

The anti-ICE crowd is going on and on about the number of shots fired and lack of training. Law enforcement in the US is trained to fire multiple shots at the center of mass in rapid succession, until the threat is eliminated.

😄..........You really don't know what you are talking about, there was no threat, he was unarmed...............😂..........An ICE bloke had his gun..........😂

He was executed, and I hope the 2 shooters pay for it.

But, just for you, something to watch................🤗

At what point will these rioters be classified as terrorists and be dealt with.

https://nypost.com/2026/01/26/us-news/self-described-antifa-lunatic-issues-chilling-call-for-armed-mob-to-end-minneapolis-ice-operations/

3 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

At what point will these rioters be classified as terrorists and be dealt with.

https://nypost.com/2026/01/26/us-news/self-described-antifa-lunatic-issues-chilling-call-for-armed-mob-to-end-minneapolis-ice-operations/

When they start supporting Trump.

3 hours ago, save the frogs said:

There is no proof, but it doesn't mean it's not happening. If it does exist, these people would be very clever about hiding it and not leaving a trail.

And anyway, if govt prosecutes, people yell "dictator!"

Tell me if you think this is a coincidence:

Clearly you either confused who you were responding to or you didn't understand my post.

Incidentally you edited my post so it's meaning is obscured, I will report that.

10 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

Clearly you either confused who you were responding to or you didn't understand my post.

Incidentally you edited my post so it's meaning is obscured, I will report that.

Sorry, I may have been confused and misunderstood your post.

Feel free to have my reply deleted.

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

Sorry, I may have been confused and misunderstood your post.

Feel free to have my reply deleted.

No problem, it happens.

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

When they start supporting Trump.

They don't have to support or like Trump, they just need to stand down from impeding the federal Immigration officials.

Imagine if folks had rioted and destroyed cities because Biden was letting in millions of illegals.

On 1/28/2026 at 12:43 PM, Yagoda said:

Guess the Minnesota "peaceful protesters" arent really peaceful, or protesters.

Rather, they are organized, paid for by foreign money and have as their goal the instigation of civil strife.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2026/01/inside-the-resistance.php

Feel free to put your but but but January 6 and other spin up.

Are Minnesota government members involved.

I wonder how many folks are lawyering up. The outline of facts set forth in the article would be sufficient for an indictment.

Powerline blog! 🤣🤣🤣

8 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

They don't have to support or like Trump, they just need to stand down from impeding the federal Immigration officials.

Imagine if folks had rioted and destroyed cities because Biden was letting in millions of illegals.

So, what exactly is it the "protesters" want, does anyone know?

Just now, candide said:

Powerline blog! 🤣🤣🤣

Truth hurts, huh?