11 minutes ago, Bannoi said:

People who say climate change isn't real are the same sort of people who said the earth is flat and couldn't possibly be round.

It's easier to deny something is real if you don't want it to be true or to face up to it.

Why did you fly to Thailand then?

14 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Why did you fly to Thailand then?

Heard the sex was good.

What he really means is cheaper cars to produce, the public will still pay the same and the manufacturers will just pocket more profit, like a lot of politicians, decisions are made to benefit their elite sponsors and pals.

2 hours ago, johng said:

I agree with Trump, the climate change scam has to end..that's not to say that strives towards cleaner energy should be abandoned,when the technology is ready then the people will embrace it naturally, there is no need for dictatorial mandates and taxes to force behaviour.

Yeah, because people always act rationally. So why make it mandatory to wear e.g. seatbelts, right. Or speed limits, for that matter!

49 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Why did you fly to Thailand then?

Why did you fly to Thailand and stay

16 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Yeah, because people always act rationally. So why make it mandatory to wear e.g. seatbelts, right. Or speed limits, for that matter!

Revenue raising and socialism. Less seat belts more deaths equals less co2!

1 hour ago, johng said:

might be caused by natural variations or not.. no

There's conclusive evidence it's not caused by natural variations.

23 minutes ago, stevenl said:

There's conclusive evidence it's not caused by natural variations.

Sorry don't believe it not after the so called 'eggspurts' have got it wrong on 'everything'

2019 being the wake up call can not get back to sleep after that alarm call.

3 hours ago, johng said:

that's not to say that strives towards cleaner energy should be abandoned,when the technology is ready then the people will embrace it naturally, there is no need for dictatorial mandates and taxes to force behaviour.

100% this!

A lot of people are getting rich as a result of the EV 'solution'.

The EV 'solution' has so many flaws. But those in power decided we all need to get on board with it, rather than wait for a real solution.

Doesn't affect me, but I agree with the decision.

35 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

100% this!

A lot of people are getting rich as a result of the EV 'solution'.

The EV 'solution' has so many flaws. But those in power decided we all need to get on board with it, rather than wait for a real solution.

What's the "real solution" that's coming? Interested to hear.

And what are the flaws of EV technology?

A lot of people getting rich from the fossil fuel industry who are NOT evolving. But then they don't need to evolve or improve when they can give a load of money to the Republicans and they quash any progress.

EV technology is evolving and improving at an incredible rate. It will be the technology of choice, that doesn't look in too much doubt. Apart from in America of course, you can continue to have your massively polluting and inefficient gas guzzlers and shout "yee-hah" whilst the rest of the world progresses.

I refuse to put on winter tires because:

• It’s my car, my choice, my freedom.

• The effectiveness of winter tires is not proven, except by studies carried out by the manufacturers (like I’m supposed to trust them).

• My neighbor Bob had an accident even after putting on winter tires.

• Some drivers are already on their 3rd set of tires, which proves their ineffectiveness.

• We do not know what the tires are made of.

• The tire manufacturers scare us with winter just to enrich themselves.

• In fact, I read on the internet that the tire giants invented snow and spread it at night when you sleep.

• If I have winter tires, the government can track me in the snow.

15 hours ago, stevenl said:

The problem is, the only scam is the fossil fuel industry claiming manmade climate change is a scam.

Can you explain previous ice ages or warming periods long before fossil fuels were discovered?

32 minutes ago, 300sd said:

Can you explain previous ice ages or warming periods long before fossil fuels were discovered?

That's been done by the experts thousands of times. The main issue btw is the sharp rise, not the rise in itself.

6 minutes ago, stevenl said:

That's been done by the experts thousands of times. The main issue btw is the sharp rise, not the rise in itself.

Yes of course, it's the sharp rise explained by the experts!

6 hours ago, 300sd said:

Can you explain previous ice ages or warming periods long before fossil fuels were discovered?

Yes. Science, geology, ice ages, and historical cycles do not negate the conclusive evidence the destruction mankind has wrought on this planet. We are currently behaving as if we have seven viable alternative planets that we could shift to, once we destroy this one. Warming is not linear, and they include cold years and hot years, but the general trend is towards the warming of the earth and the seas.

Sorry to burst your bubble but we are causing untold destruction and if we don't start wising up and behaving responsibly future generations are going to be facing massive issues.

While denial might provide you some personal comfort, it doesn't help things one iota.

The Greenies would have literally deindustrialized their own countries. Look at German for a prime example. Factory closures all over the country and corporations heading to countries that have affordable energy. The Chinese have a better model where ALL forms of energy generation are utilized: coal, gas, nuclear, solar, and wind among others. In the meanwhile they are on the cutting edge of fusion as well.

Once fusion energy comes online as commercially viable, true affordable and abundant "Green Energy" will be here.

16 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Yes. Science, geology, ice ages, and historical cycles do not negate the conclusive evidence the destruction mankind has wrought on this planet. We are currently behaving as if we have seven viable alternative planets that we could shift to, once we destroy this one. Warming is not linear, and they include cold years and hot years, but the general trend is towards the warming of the earth and the seas.

Sorry to burst your bubble but we are causing untold destruction and if we don't start wising up and behaving responsibly future generations are going to be facing massive issues.

While denial might provide you some personal comfort, it doesn't help things one iota.

You gotta love it when the people pushing the Green Agenda and screaming about Climate Change all attended the Climate Conferences in private jet.
Imho - it's all Bravo Sierra.

37 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Sorry to burst your bubble but we are causing untold destruction and if we don't start wising up and behaving responsibly future generations are going to be facing massive issues.

You might be causing untold destruction, but my home, car and bicycle are powered by home solar.

21 hours ago, BLMFem said:

Yeah, because people always act rationally. So why make it mandatory to wear e.g. seatbelts, right. Or speed limits, for that matter!

Good idea for once

I will say it again for everyone.

There is ZERO actual scientific evidence of a climate emergency. Yes, the climate is changing. The climate is always changing. Yes, you can create models using a process called forcing with increased water vapor that show small CO2 increases can cause it (although you can also create models that show it has no effect, but those don't get grants). Yes, CO2 levels have slightly risen recently. NONE OF THIS is proof of an emergency or impending climate doom, and none of the models created over the last few decades have been correct.

The world has been hotter in the past. It has been colder in the past. Humanity survives. The real climate scientists who try and point this out just get cancelled, which is why you don't hear the moderate views.

What Trump is doing is absolutely necessary. We need to reset everything and take the time to figure out what is real and what isn't. Only then, when we have broad consensus by ALL stakeholders (not just the Globalists and their collaborators) can humanity move forward with plans on how to be good stewards of the Earth.

i congratulate Trump for doing what is necessary to get the ball rolling in the right direction.

23 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Despite these extreme highs, the long-term average temperature in Thailand has increased slightly over the past four decades, rising from about 27.6°C (1979–2024) to 27.79°C in 2024, according to World Bank data.

Harrisfan,

As a scientist, you should know that your data does not tell the true story!

Regional trends in Thailand do not determine global climate physics. The strongest warming is occurring in high-latitude regions due to well-understood feedback mechanisms such as Arctic amplification.

The fact that tropical warming is smaller in magnitude does not invalidate global warming, it simply reflects spatial variability in climate response, which is predicted by climate models and observed in global datasets.

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Yes. Science, geology, ice ages, and historical cycles do not negate the conclusive evidence the destruction mankind has wrought on this planet. We are currently behaving as if we have seven viable alternative planets that we could shift to, once we destroy this one. Warming is not linear, and they include cold years and hot years, but the general trend is towards the warming of the earth and the seas.

Sorry to burst your bubble but we are causing untold destruction and if we don't start wising up and behaving responsibly future generations are going to be facing massive issues.

While denial might provide you some personal comfort, it doesn't help things one iota.

Bursting my bubble! Thank you, that made me laugh. Don't think your reply would burst anyone's bubble. Are you sure it's not you in denial?

Will make zero difference to industry.

Essentially the announcements amount to a US surrender The US is surrendering the second quarter of the 21st Century to Asia. They have signaled they are getting out of the global race for new energy. They are giving up a major global position, that they will never be financially able to catch up on. The cost of solar capex has fallen so far and the infrastructure lifespan extended so much in the last few years that it makes more financial sense to cover a Midwest cornfield with one time expense solar than it does to flood the soil with imported Russian fertiliser every year, plant and harvest maize and then ferment it to ethanol to burn in cars. America is huge, and EV won't work for very many tasks but by taking themselves out of all these races while other nations are all determined to reduce their reliance on the tech that the U.S. does lead on is indeed going to return the U.S. to the supposed Nirvana of the 70s.

10 hours ago, connda said:

The Greenies would have literally deindustrialized their own countries. Look at German for a prime example. Factory closures all over the country and corporations heading to countries that have affordable energy. The Chinese have a better model where ALL forms of energy generation are utilized: coal, gas, nuclear, solar, and wind among others. In the meanwhile they are on the cutting edge of fusion as well.

Once fusion energy comes online as commercially viable, true affordable and abundant "Green Energy" will be here.

Expect to see record number of those Chinese coal gas power stations to be shuttered, far earlier than in the West. Their policy was all about energy independance. They don't really want to deal with all the <deleted> they have to deal importing supplies from Russia, Indonesia, Australia, and Mongolia.

The US is surrendering Q2 of the 21st Century to Asia. It will lose a technological edge that it will never recover from.

Interesting video. Its long, but its not in the direction you think

On 2/14/2026 at 9:06 AM, spidermike007 said:

I refuse to put on winter tires because:

• It’s my car, my choice, my freedom.

• The effectiveness of winter tires is not proven, except by studies carried out by the manufacturers (like I’m supposed to trust them).

• My neighbor Bob had an accident even after putting on winter tires.

• Some drivers are already on their 3rd set of tires, which proves their ineffectiveness.

• We do not know what the tires are made of.

• The tire manufacturers scare us with winter just to enrich themselves.

• In fact, I read on the internet that the tire giants invented snow and spread it at night when you sleep.

• If I have winter tires, the government can track me in the snow.

Not much winter in Thailand.

On 2/13/2026 at 6:46 PM, Harrisfan said:

Those 16 lefties all flew to Thailand. All wear clothes made with fossil fuels.

Who were those masked men in flak vests? Doesn't anybody here remember the switch to unleaded gasoline? Have your memory back?

When I lived in New York, it was pretty close to the Con Ed stacks. Con Ed burned coal. With the windows closed in winter, I'd wake up to a layer of black soot on the windowsills. Was said it was like every New Yorker, including the rich, was like smoking three packs a day!

Unfortunately, all modes of transportation are polluting in manufacture, except maybe trains, which can last pretty much forever. Hope they'll soon be electric, too. Remember your Lionel set, with smoke coming out?

News is hybrid cars are more polluting than petrol or electrics. And where does the electricity come from. That's perhaps the most polluting part. Coal, hehe (what an idiot!)? Seriously, I wonder what monsters are behing the Idiot-in-Chief's agenda? What's in it for them.

Trump will be dead when coal soot is spread across 50 states. Is he amassing all these riches for his kids? I don't think he cares much about them, either. He's just doing it because he can. And to piss off the libs.

Sure like that new Benz electric G series, though!

https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/climate-and-energy-experts-praise-trumps-endangerment-finding-repeal

President of the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow Craig Rucker said in a statement to The Center Square that “at its core, the Endangerment Finding defies basic science and common sense.”

“CO2, the odorless, colorless, gas you just exhaled, is essential to life,” Rucker said. “It is what plants rely on for photosynthesis to produce oxygen and food.”

“We are all made of that carbon,” Rucker stated; thus, labeling CO2 “a ‘pollutant’ is absurd, akin to declaring water vapor a threat.”

Rucker said that “a rigorous cost/benefit analysis reveals the folly: trillions in economic costs from climate mandates that yield no meaningful environmental benefits, stifle innovation, jobs, and energy independence and distract from genuine environmental priorities.”

Similar to Rucker, president of the Heartland Institute James Taylor told The Center Square in a statement that the Endangerment Finding defied science.

“CO2 is the gift of life for planet Earth, not a pollutant or a threat to public health and welfare,” Rucker said.

Do people really believe that coal is clean?

Who would cheer on coal dust and complain about PM2.5 here?

On 2/13/2026 at 7:25 PM, spidermike007 said:

He is wrong. The evidence of that is everywhere.

Fake news 😂

17 hours ago, Purdey said:

Do people really believe that coal is clean?

Coal can be clean...it is also chaep, abundant, easy and safe to store for when it is needed.