Honestly, the sheer disrespect shown here is staggering.

A spirit house (wherever it may be) is not just decoration, it’s a deeply important part of Thai culture, tied to beliefs about protection and reverence.

To treat it as the backdrop for a tawdry display is beyond ignorant, it’s insulting.

And then to assault a hotel employee who tried to intervene? That’s not just bad manners, that’s outright thuggery. A spray with water was the least they deserved. Frankly, they got off lightly.

What amazes me just as much is how some forum members have chosen to make light of this.

You’d think people living here, or at least familiar with Thailand, would show a bit more sensitivity.

Instead, we get jokes and dismissive comments. That kind of attitude only adds to the disrespect. This isn’t about prudishness, it’s about basic respect for the culture of the country you’re a guest in.

19 hours ago, wil iam not said:

Ha ha ha. Was the plant pot offended?

I think it was- as they used it for safe sex as it was a rubber plant?

Another onlyfans who should be arrested and deported.

20 hours ago, Base32 said:

It never fails to amaze me when foreigners come to Thailand and engage in sex in places where, if it were their own country, they'd get arrested and most likely charged with some sort of sex-crime.

But they figure this is what? A third world country where the local must all shag in the bushes, so, "When in Rome???" Amazing.

The remnants of working class colonialism. Ruling the waves and all that jack.

20 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Spraying people with water seems quite aggressively rude outside of Songkran.

Couldn't have just said -- get a loom?!?

It's what we used to do to separate dogs who'd coupled in the street.

Can't say I'd feel particularly comfortable seeing people casually copulating around the place when walking around town or my hotel grounds or going down to the beach. I mean, how about having it off on the steps of a 7-11? Good for standing doggy position or sitting ...

If you wanna do it outside GREAT! But have at least a little decorum and choose somewhere more isolated than a hotel garden next to the spirit house. Some kind of screen like a bush or whatever. The floor of a fishing boat. Whatever.

But I also ask what kind of a hotel has a garden scattered with scumbags and stinking of urine. Dream Hotel Pattaya? Oh dear.

12 hours ago, BayArea said:

ask yourself, why does it happened more often in LOS than most places??

It doesn't. When I lived in Japan I've seen Japanese people literally shagging in the street (Shibuya), in side alleys (Roppongi), random staircases, etc. In my home country it's quite common too. Thailand just fakes moral outrage more easily when it's foreigners. As for the hotel employee - spraying people with water is actually a crime.

34 minutes ago, BusyB said:

It's what we used to do to separate dogs who'd coupled in the street.

Can't say I'd feel particularly comfortable seeing people casually copulating around the place when walking around town or my hotel grounds or going down to the beach. I mean, how about having it off on the steps of a 7-11? Good for standing doggy position or sitting ...

If you wanna do it outside GREAT! But have at least a little decorum and choose somewhere more isolated than a hotel garden next to the spirit house. Some kind of screen like a bush or whatever. The floor of a fishing boat. Whatever.

But I also ask what kind of a hotel has a garden scattered with scumbags and stinking of urine. Dream Hotel Pattaya? Oh dear.

Have you heard a thing called looking away?

There are very many unpleasant things going on in Thailand coming from both Thais and f-rangs.

I learned early on the expat wisdom of actively filtering out the unpleasant stuff and more importantly AVOIDING CONFLICT.
If I was a Thai citizen rather than legally a very long term NON-immigrant on a short leash, I hope that I would be more involved in making my country better.

But as f-rangs are constantly and correctly reminded with things like 90 address reports --- this NOT our country.

If you're going to get upset about something in the world, choose something much more important than such petty lewd incidents.

Cheers.

On things like Thai's regard for spirit houses, ghosts, and such like I respect that there is a cultural difference that is real, but that doesn't mean internalizing that.

Obviously its rude and wrong to intentionally violate local norms wherever you are, but what I don't get here is the exaggerated outrage over an objectively minor incident.

Let the portion of Thais that are outraged be outraged.

Again, it's not our country.

Why emotionally invest in such things?

15 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Have you heard a thing called looking away?

There are very many unpleasant things going on in Thailand coming from both Thais and f-rangs.

I learned early on the expat wisdom of actively filtering out the unpleasant stuff and more importantly AVOIDING CONFLICT.
If I was a Thai citizen rather than legally a very long term NON-immigrant on a short leash, I hope that I would be more involved in making my country better.

But as f-rangs are constantly and correctly reminded with things like 90 address reports --- this NOT our country.

If you're going to get upset about something in the world, choose something much more important than such petty lewd incidents.

Cheers.

I'm quite happy to look away when the performers are happy enough to screen themselves at least somewhat. In any country. Have. But it's hard to look away when it's happening on the steps of a 7-11, or in my hotel garden after a nice meal in the restaurant.

I'm really quite liberal and always have been about sex. But like so many other things, if you're gonna play stupid games, expect stupid prizes.

I personally wouldn't spray them with water. I'd actually look away. But the Thai female hotel employee who did was well within her rights to respond to what she perceived as a gross insult.

This is a country where even nudism is frowned on. It is arrogance to simply screw in public. It's like saying 'screw you lot, we're gonna do it anyway'. From what I gather from this story it doesn't even qualify as an act of civil disobedience (something which of necessity also has consequences). It was merely self-centered rudeness. A water spray is pretty much on the lower end of the kinetic scale of pushbacks.

Having said that, I wouldn't stay long in a hotel where public copulation was commonplace or where scumbags lie around in puddles of p!33, but does that make me prude? Or a curtain twitcher? A rat? I don't think so.

12 minutes ago, BusyB said:

I'm quite happy to look away when the performers are happy enough to screen themselves at least somewhat. In any country. Have. But it's hard to look away when it's happening on the steps of a 7-11, or in my hotel garden after a nice meal in the restaurant.

I'm really quite liberal and always have been about sex. But like so many other things, if you're gonna play stupid games, expect stupid prizes.

I personally wouldn't spray them with water. I'd actually look away. But the Thai female hotel employee who did was well within her rights to respond to what she perceived as a gross insult.

This is a country where even nudism is frowned on. It is arrogance to simply screw in public. It's like saying 'screw you lot, we're gonna do it anyway'. From what I gather from this story it doesn't even qualify as an act of civil disobedience (something which of necessity also has consequences). It was merely self-centered rudeness. A water spray is pretty much on the lower end of the kinetic scale of pushbacks.

Having said that, I wouldn't stay long in a hotel where public copulation was commonplace or where scumbags lie around in puddles of p!33, but does that make me prude? Or a curtain twitcher? A rat? I don't think so.

I'm certainly aware that Thailand is a very socially conservative country.

I'm not Thai.

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Why emotionally invest in such things?

Because it gets us all a bad name the same as the dudes who arrogantly flout other laws from the roads to the barstools to the abuse of the visa system etc.

Anyway I'm not 'emotionally invested'. Just passing the time of day on AN with a comment or two.

23 hours ago, Base32 said:

It never fails to amaze me when foreigners come to Thailand and engage in sex in places where, if it were their own country, they'd get arrested and most likely charged with some sort of sex-crime.

But they figure this is what? A third world country where the local must all shag in the bushes, so, "When in Rome???" Amazing.

Some people who visit here only ever see pattaya , Its almost understandable that they think the morals displayed in soi 6 etc are indicative of the rest of the country, if they have never been anywhere else how would they know?

2 hours ago, BusyB said:

But I also ask what kind of a hotel has a garden scattered with scumbags and stinking of urine.

that one, apparently but initially according to the op ....

23 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The hotel, located in Bang Lamung district on Pattaya Sai Song Road, had not previously encountered such an incident

however a little later

23 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

This spot had previously shown signs of misuse, with Piatra noting the discovery of used condoms and people urinating there

Sounds like it was a well known spot for prostitutes to service their clients

4 hours ago, thjames007 said:

I hope u being sarcastic

another member suggested using napalm and a flame thrower yet you felt no need to comment ,

3 hours ago, Jim Waldron said:

Honestly, the sheer disrespect shown here is staggering.

A spirit house (wherever it may be) is not just decoration, it’s a deeply important part of Thai culture, tied to beliefs about protection and reverence.

To treat it as the backdrop for a tawdry display is beyond ignorant, it’s insulting.

And then to assault a hotel employee who tried to intervene? That’s not just bad manners, that’s outright thuggery. A spray with water was the least they deserved. Frankly, they got off lightly.

What amazes me just as much is how some forum members have chosen to make light of this.

You’d think people living here, or at least familiar with Thailand, would show a bit more sensitivity.

Instead, we get jokes and dismissive comments. That kind of attitude only adds to the disrespect. This isn’t about prudishness, it’s about basic respect for the culture of the country you’re a guest in.

You do know that this happened in Pattaya, right?

The place is a heaving mess of sex everywhere and every way. Thai culture? Not so much.

35 minutes ago, BusyB said:

Because it gets us all a bad name the same as the dudes who arrogantly flout other laws from the roads to the barstools to the abuse of the visa system etc.

Anyway I'm not 'emotionally invested'. Just passing the time of day on AN with a comment or two.

F-rangs getting a "bad name" in Thailand is inevitable.

11 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Unusual to see a hotel named in the media. A quick search indicates the Dream Hotel is over on Pratumnak, whereas the OP says Pattaya Sai Song. Unless there are two Dream hotels?

It's well before the junction where Second Road becomes Pratumnak.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Dream+Hotel/@12.925168,100.8739073,3a,81.9y,341.24h,89.47t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1ssJeZjqGvnvvYZ4OsrKaUSw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D0.5258327738288244%26panoid%3DsJeZjqGvnvvYZ4OsrKaUSw%26yaw%3D341.24147671189746!7i16384!8i8192!4m9!3m8!1s0x3102961379932563:0x5cdb95690fd367a6!5m2!4m1!1i2!8m2!3d12.9251063!4d100.8737213!16s%2Fg%2F1hf35z9x6?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

Criminal act for sure,the man could count himself unlucky but they should throw the book at the lady for taking a Thai lady’s job.

On 2/13/2026 at 7:25 PM, Jingthing said:

Two thongs don't make a slight.

Your attempts to appear witty and clever are not working.

20 minutes ago, CM Dad said:

Your attempts to appear witty and clever are not working.

Aw shucks!

2 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

You do know that this happened in Pattaya, right?

The place is a heaving mess of sex everywhere and every way. Thai culture? Not so much.

And the thousands of other sex places all over thailand that are almost exclusively thai on thai ?

Ya not so much I guess. Smh.

On 2/13/2026 at 7:35 PM, Jingthing said:

This is Pattaya. What do people expect?

Temples and museums according to the authority

5 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

Some people who visit here only ever see pattaya , Its almost understandable that they think the morals displayed in soi 6 etc are indicative of the rest of the country, if they have never been anywhere else how would they know?

I would venture that the only ones who only ever see Pattaya aren't interested in anywhere else anyway.

Overall, disrespectful to the Thai people whose country they are guests of..........

That being said it's Pattaya, and just like Bangla in Phuket, not really Thailand. More like Disneyland for the lowlifes.

i have never peed on a lady in public. There is a time and place for everything. This gentleman is ignoring peeing etiquette.

Put a water hose on it, 60 bar will do.

Should of had a flamethrower. Disrespectful Idiots!

14 hours ago, BusyB said:

If you wanna do it outside GREAT! But have at least a little decorum and choose somewhere more isolated

I suspect a local with a camera and a sense of outrage would still pop up!

On 2/13/2026 at 9:13 PM, Jingthing said:

Spraying people with water seems quite aggressively rude outside of Songkran.

Couldn't have just said -- get a loom?!?

Well it works with dogs so why not on humans .???

On 2/13/2026 at 4:13 AM, Jingthing said:

Spraying people with water seems quite aggressively rude outside of Songkran.

Couldn't have just said -- get a loom?!?

Har har no. The only thing she did wrong was not boil the water first