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Is Abortion after Fetal Viability Murder

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It is my position, that abortion after fetal viability is murder and that absent circumstances such as life or death to the mother (only), abortions performed after the date of viability should be prosecuted. That is generally acknowledged to be 26 weeks

Certain Democrat controlled states permit abortion for any reason whatsoever at any time regardless of the viability of the child

What say you @josephbloggs

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  • VocalNeal
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    What a load of self righteous twaddle from males who don't have any involvement in the process.

  • BritManToo
    BritManToo

    I'm of the opinion sex with contraception is murder. If you don't want the baby, don't have sex! When you give women choices, they always choose what is worst for your civilization. I would never kn

  • Involvement is kind of irrelevant ... 'my body, my choice', though seems to be applied selectively, sadly. Stopping something living to come to birth near full term, is killing. Murder is a legal t

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It would have been nice if there was a third option, such as "Maybe, depending on the health of the fetus and the mother".

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Sage legal and rare......too bad that doesn't reflect reality.

Certain Democrat controlled states permit abortion for any reason whatsoever at any time regardless of the viability of the child

Abortions at or after 21 weeks gestation, roughly considered the threshold for viability, are rare, accounting for approximately 1% of all abortions in the United States. Data indicates far less than 1% occurring in the third trimester.

  1. Reasons: These abortions often involve complex situations, including severe fetal abnormalities, risk to the pregnant person’s life, or barriers that delayed access to care.

  2. Context: While often debated, third-trimester abortions are extremely rare, and only a few providers nationwide offer them.

Just another rage bait post , go figure.

All abortion is killing, as has a heartbeat around 5-6 wees, and especially after 23 weeks, as possibility of surviving as preemie goes up.

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What a load of self righteous twaddle from males who don't have any involvement in the process.

14 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

What a load of self righteous twaddle from males who don't have any involvement in the process.

Involvement is kind of irrelevant ... 'my body, my choice', though seems to be applied selectively, sadly.

Stopping something living to come to birth near full term, is killing. Murder is a legal term. Kill a pregnant woman, you may get charged with double manslaughter / murder.

Abortion is killing (I didn't vote), but, I also believe in 'my body, my choice', although it doesn't seem to apply to men in many countries, ex: forced vaccines or experiment gene therapy, topic of other threads.

I'm just glad I'm not an ignorant (stupid, arrogant) woman, faced with that choice, kill it, or have it.

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48 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

All abortion is killing, as has a heartbeat around 5-6 wees, and especially after 23 weeks, as possibility of surviving as preemie goes up.

So yanking one off is potentially mass murder? Sperm are alive.

2 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

So yanking one off is potentially mass murder? Sperm are alive.

Save your tissues for 9 months, and let us know what 'develops'.

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10 hours ago, Yagoda said:

It is my position, that abortion after fetal viability is murder and that absent circumstances such as life or death to the mother (only), abortions performed after the date of viability should be prosecuted. That is generally acknowledged to be 26 weeks

Certain Democrat controlled states permit abortion for any reason whatsoever at any time regardless of the viability of the child

What say you @josephbloggs

I'm of the opinion sex with contraception is murder.

If you don't want the baby, don't have sex!

When you give women choices, they always choose what is worst for your civilization.

I would never knowingly enter into a relationship with a woman that admitted to having an abortion. If she's prepared to kill her baby, she won't be that bothered harming you.

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13 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I'm of the opinion sex with contraception is murder.

If you don't want the baby, don't have sex!

When you give women choices, they always choose what is worst for your civilization.

Sorry too much there for me to unpack.

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1 hour ago, Sully_ said:

Abortions at or after 21 weeks gestation, roughly considered the threshold for viability, are rare, accounting for approximately 1% of all abortions in the United States. Data indicates far less than 1% occurring in the third trimester.

  1. Reasons: These abortions often involve complex situations, including severe fetal abnormalities, risk to the pregnant person’s life, or barriers that delayed access to care.

  2. Context: While often debated, third-trimester abortions are extremely rare, and only a few providers nationwide offer them.

Just another rage bait post , go figure.

Got it you don't want to answer the question.

Note, murder is not less murder because it doesn't happen a lot.

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2 hours ago, JimHuaHin said:

It would have been nice if there was a third option, such as "Maybe, depending on the health of the fetus and the mother".

The life of the mother is in there.

As to fetal abnormalities that wouldn't be fatal...OK to abortions retarded kids? Sounds T10 ish

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3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Got it you don't want to answer the question.

Note, murder is not less murder because it doesn't happen a lot.

Something isn't murder just because you think it is.

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10 minutes ago, Sully_ said:

Something isn't murder just because you think it is.

Got it, so baby killing is okay in your book. Murder Is The unlawful Killing of a human being throughout the entire world. I guess in your view baby is aren't human

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17 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Got it, so baby killing is okay in your book. Murder Is The unlawful Killing of a human being throughout the entire world. I guess in your view baby is aren't human

I don't agree with you or your premise and neither does ALL our major, mainstream health organizations who support access to safe legal abortion.

The American Medical Association, the American Medical Women’s Association, Physicians for Reproductive Health, Association of Reproductive Health Care Professionals, Academy of Family Physicians, American College of Physicians, American Academy of Pediatrics, American College of Surgeons, American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) and on and on state that abortion is a basic part of reproductive health care for women.

If the choice is standing with them or the "Don't tread on me Snek" I choose them.

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6 minutes ago, Sully_ said:

I don't agree with you or your premise and neither does ALL our major, mainstream health organizations who support access to safe legal abortion.

The American Medical Association, the American Medical Women’s Association, Physicians for Reproductive Health, Association of Reproductive Health Care Professionals, Academy of Family Physicians, American College of Physicians, American Academy of Pediatrics, American College of Surgeons, American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) and on and on state that abortion is a basic part of reproductive health care for women.

If the choice is standing with them or the "Don't tread on me Snek" I choose them.

So if a man kicks an eight month pregnant lady in the stomach and a child is born dead because of that, that is not murder in your book?

Did not medical organisations in the past support sterilization of retarded peoplee and medical experiments on unwitting Blacks? Did they not until recently support genital mutilation of so-called transgender children, until medical malpractice caught up with them?

15 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

So if a man kicks an eight month pregnant lady in the stomach and a child is born dead because of that, that is not murder in your book?

Did not medical organisations in the past support sterilization of retarded peoplee and medical experiments on unwitting Blacks? Did they not until recently support genital mutilation of so-called transgender children, until medical malpractice caught up with them?

What the hell are you talking about now. You truly only exist to take the oxygen out of the room. I'm out snek

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11 minutes ago, Sully_ said:

What the hell are you talking about now. You truly only exist to take the oxygen out of the room. I'm out snek

More questions you cannot answer. Flee from hard truths LOL. I didnt report your low value post because its a prime example of how you and your ilk roll. Flame and run when confronted with anything that disrupts the propaganda machine.

Speaking of that, where is @josephbloggs. He asked for this topic. I have more coming to take away your oxygen. Maybe Israel next LOL

32 minutes ago, Sully_ said:

I don't agree with you or your premise and neither does ALL our major, mainstream health organizations who support access to safe legal abortion.

The American Medical Association, the American Medical Women’s Association, Physicians for Reproductive Health, Association of Reproductive Health Care Professionals, Academy of Family Physicians, American College of Physicians, American Academy of Pediatrics, American College of Surgeons, American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) and on and on state that abortion is a basic part of reproductive health care for women.

If the choice is standing with them or the "Don't tread on me Snek" I choose them.

That abortion being safe with these associations doesn't make it right. There are many people who think abortion is okay, a woman's choice, and going along with them, they allow it to happen.

Safer of course but still an immoral action, especially after a certain amount of time. When it's a medical necessity there is no option. That its much safer in certain places is obvious. In cases of rape, incest or fetal abnormalities it's also a viable option.

This from AI,......."It is a safe,,, routine medical procedure used to manage unintended pregnancies and preserve the health and autonomy of individual" That it is an immoral action by a healthy woman who's with a partner of her choosing is a given. .The fetus is indeed a life after conception.

If you don't want to get pregnant, you use contraception of at least one form. Some think the fetus isn't yet a life, but it is, and they'll argue until the cows come home because it's their opinion. Many won't think it's killing of course because they don't want that guilt.

As a Centrist Democrat I'm very much supportive of abortion under any circumstances within the first trimester, beyond that it's a whole different story.

58 minutes ago, Sully_ said:

don't agree with you or your premise and neither does ALL our major, mainstream health organizations who support access to safe legal abortion.

Those organisations that want to give babies vaccinations and lock us up at home to stop us catching colds?

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33 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

As a Centrist Democrat I'm very much supportive of abortion under any circumstances within the first trimester, beyond that it's a whole different story.

You agree with Trump then.

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28 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Those organisations that want to give babies vaccinations and lock us up at home to stop us catching colds?

The same organizations that give us DEI n onsense in medical schools

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/dei-is-a-threat-to-americans-health-97b25a64

47 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

As a Centrist Democrat I'm very much supportive of abortion under any circumstances within the first trimester, beyond that it's a whole different story.

You peg your morality to your political persuasion or are they simply closely aligned at the moment?

57 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

As a Centrist Democrat I'm very much supportive of abortion under any circumstances within the first trimester, beyond that it's a whole different story.

You sound far left to me

6 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

You sound far left to me

"Clowns to the Left of me

Jokers to the Right

Here I am

Stuck in the Middle with You.

(Val Day scary thought)....Cheers.

4 hours ago, Sully_ said:

Abortions at or after 21 weeks gestation, roughly considered the threshold for viability, are rare, accounting for approximately 1% of all abortions in the United States. Data indicates far less than 1% occurring in the third trimester.

The comment you responded to simply pointed out that in some states, abortion is allowed at any time and for any reason. The low rate of late-term abortions isn't what matters here; it's that the practice is legal at all. In your world, is it acceptable to eliminate statutes criminalizing armed robbery with <insert esoteric weapon here> because only 1% of armed robberies are committed with <esoteric weapon>? Is it acceptable to eliminate statutes criminalizing <insert felony here> because only 1% of the population engages in <felony>?

4 hours ago, Sully_ said:

risk to the pregnant person’s life

Use of the term "pregnant person" neatly frames this entire debate as sane people vs. leftist whackos.

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

As a Centrist Democrat I'm very much supportive of abortion under any circumstances within the first trimester, beyond that it's a whole different story.

Interesting. Some common ground here.

Though for me, I'd adjust it to "As a pragmatic right-winger I'm reluctantly supportive of abortion within the first trimester; beyond that it's a whole different story."

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

You sound far left to me

Not even close. I don't support abortion after the first trimester. I support the death penalty. I think all able bodied people accepting welfare or food stamps should have to provide the state with free labor.

But, I also support free trade, globalization, immigrant rights, good relations with allies, and the prosecution of ICE terrorists.

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