1 hour ago, Bannoi said:

They had B52's and air superiority during the Vietnam war. Still lost the war.

Military history is not that simplistic

1 hour ago, khaosokman said:

They won by the war by a wide margin.

The Vietnam War (1955–1975) resulted in an estimated 2 to 4 million Vietnamese deaths (combatants and civilians combined). Among foreign nations, the United States suffered the highest casualties with 58,220 military deaths, followed by South Korea (approx. 4,400–5,000+), Australia (521), Thailand (351), and New Zealand (38). 

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Estimated Deaths by Nation (Vietnam War)

• North Vietnam (PAVN/Viet Cong): ~1.1 million killed

• South Vietnam (ARVN): ~200,000–250,000+ killed

• United States: 58,220 (combat and non-combat)

• South Korea: ~4,400–5,099 killed

• Australia: 521 killed

• Thailand: 351 killed

• New Zealand: 38 killed

• Soviet Union: 16 military advisors

• North Korea: 14 pilots 

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Additional Regional and Historical Context

• Cambodia: 275,000–310,000 deaths

• Laos: 20,000–62,000 deaths

• First Indochina War (1946–1954): Roughly 300,000–500,000 Vietnamese deaths and 92,000–110,000 French Union casualties. 

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Note: Casualty figures, particularly for Vietnamese civilians and combatants, vary significantly by source. 

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The Vietnam War (1955–1975) caused around two to four million Vietnamese deaths (both military and civilians from each source).

And that war achieved nothing just the same as this one won't either apart from throwing the Middle East and the world into turmoil for perhaps generations to come and killing millions of people.

I read somewhere recently America and its warmongering has been responsible for killing around 45 million people since the 2nd word war ended.

Nearly every war since WW2 has been started by America and for what. It's not like they even manage to win them just create chaos wherever they go and leave.

This one won't be any different.

We have been conditioned to think America good The West Good. China bad Russia bad Muslims bad communists bad. I'm beginning to think it may be the other way round.

During the Cold War we were led to believe everyone in the USSR were brainwashed it looks like they weren't the only ones.

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Military history is not that simplistic

Every British Army Officer is required to study history wars, battles, conflicts, campaigns and learn from them there is always something to learn.

If the US army is like you and doesn't think it's important that could go a long way to explaining why we kicked their arse on just about every exercise I ever engaged in with them.

18 hours ago, khaosokman said:

"Perhaps Tug, like myself, does not think a fat old guy living in Cambodia, paying money to have sex with (maybe) barely legal girls, girls who might even be below the US age of consent, is somehow superior to young Iranian kids who have never had a chance to enjoy what life offers. See, morality and empathy are alien to people like that poster to whom Tug addresses his comment."

With a name like Tug I don't think he can judge others. You both support a terrorist over Trump. Obviously both sick.

For your edification I earned the nickname Tug after I became to old to dive commercially that was in my late 50s…..59 to be precise,so I ran tugs full time till I retired .Were do I support a terrorist you are mistaken…..I do not support trump creating a war without congressional approval,don’t compare what he’s done with Obama firing a few missiles at terriosts….how many carrier task forces how many cruse missiles has he loosed on the Iranian nation?this unfortunately is just getting started it will go on for years perhaps not overtly as we obviously dominate militarily but you can bet your bottom dollar this will seed terriost attacks and deaths for decades,not to mention setting the region ablaze.

8 minutes ago, Bannoi said:

Every British Army Officer is required to study history wars, battles, conflicts, campaigns and learn from them there is always something to learn.

If the US army is like you and doesn't think it's important that could go a long way to explaining why we kicked their arse on just about every exercise I ever engaged in with them.

What does that have to do with my critique of his broad comparison.

20 hours ago, khaosokman said:

"Perhaps Tug, like myself, does not think a fat old guy living in Cambodia, paying money to have sex with (maybe) barely legal girls, girls who might even be below the US age of consent, is somehow superior to young Iranian kids who have never had a chance to enjoy what life offers. See, morality and empathy are alien to people like that poster to whom Tug addresses his comment."

With a name like Tug I don't think he can judge others. You both support a terrorist over Trump. Obviously both sick.

With a name like khaosokman (KK or SL, or HF, or whatever you go by) you definitely can't judge others.

It's always someone else's fault and no, I won't allow you to see the Trump Epstein videos and photos. As a lot of my friends will be hurt.

I am my best friend.

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