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Iran is winning and will likely win the war against the USA

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It certainly doesn't please me to realize this dark reality.

This is a war that Trump (snookered by Israel) should have never started in the first place.

However, this war more than anything else clearly signals to me that the American empire is declining rapidly. Maybe call it a suicide.

This topic is being started to discuss and track the events related to Iran winning this war against the USA.

I call it a war against the USA rather than a war against the USA and Israel because it would be an entirely different thing or even a big nothing if Trump hadn't gone for it bigly.

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  • SAFETY FIRST
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    It would not never have started if Iran was not a a terrorist organisation, plotting terrorism around the world and on Australian soil, also its intent to manufacture nuclear weapons etc, this evil ha

  • blaze master
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    An American using Russian propaganda to talk about Iran winning a war. You can't make this shhhh up. Priceless.

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    If you’re trying to pretend you’re not supporting Iran against Trump you’re not doing a very good job Amazing how lefties support anyone against their own country and people Sad actually

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9 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

It certainly doesn't please me to realize this dark reality.

Yes, and I do agree, Sir.

But, please look on the bright side.

At least, you will be able to look back and tell your grandchildren:

Back in the day, I did not live in a Fantasy World, unlike most of my Fellow Americans, besides Jeff.

You are exactly correct, Sir.

And, this does hurt, or....does it NOT hurt?

There are quagmires, and then there are QUAGMIRES.

Vietnam was a quagmire, as you will recall.

And, now, we are entering a QUAGMIRE of Epic Preportions.

Just listen to John.

Some days, you think John and Jeff are on target.

Other days, you think John and Jeff are off base in their analyses.

But, you have never spoken a truer word on TV, Sir.

The DARK REALITY of the folly of making war on Iran is now apparent.

The repercussions of war on Iran will reverberate through more than one generation.

There is no FIX, other than to shoot up, and lie back, and just.....

Sleep while the night is young....

Here is your final solution, maybe.....or our final solution....if the world is as it is......

Take a Listen to this amazingly timely tune....

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Iran is winning and will likely win the war against the USA

Correction:

Iran has already won

An American using Russian propaganda to talk about Iran winning a war.

You can't make this shhhh up. Priceless.

15 minutes ago, blaze master said:

An American using Russian propaganda to talk about Iran winning a war.

You can't make this shhhh up. Priceless.

You can, if you are Jane Fonda.

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

This is a war that Trump (snookered by Israel) should have never started in the first place.

It would not never have started if Iran was not a a terrorist organisation, plotting terrorism around the world and on Australian soil, also its intent to manufacture nuclear weapons etc, this evil had to be stopped.

Great work Mr Trump for saving the decent people of the world, now please start eradicating the Wokes and lefties

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1 minute ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

It would not never have happened if Iran was not a a terrorist organisation, plotting terrorism around the world and on Australian soil, also its intent to manufacture nuclear weapons etc, this evil had to be stopped.

Great work Mr Trump for saving the decent people of the world, now please start eradicating the Wokes and lefties

Nobody is saying the Iranian regime is good or not a promoter of terrorism.

That's not the point.

What Trump is doing is not the way to deal with them and if you actually followed the news. you would know it is BACKFIRING badly.

23 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Nobody is saying the Iranian regime is good or not a promoter of terrorism.

That's not the point

Oh, so what you are saying is I'm off topic. 🤔

Yeah, Naah, I was replying directly to your comment

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You don't realize the USA is not trying to win anything. Just knock their military capabilities back a few decades. With any luck, get a better govt installed, for the people to live out of the Islamic stone age.

USA has already won big time, as sure oil exports with skyrocket.

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Nobody is saying the Iranian regime is good or not a promoter of terrorism.

That's not the point.

What Trump is doing is not the way to deal with them and if you actually followed the news. you would know it is BACKFIRING badly.

If you’re trying to pretend you’re not supporting Iran against Trump you’re not doing a very good job

Amazing how lefties support anyone against their own country and people

Sad actually

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11 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

@Jingthing

You don't realize the USA is not trying to win anything. Just knock their military capabilities back a few decades. With any luck, get a better govt installed, for the people to live out of the Islamic stone age.

USA has already won big time, as sure oil exports with skyrocket.

Quite the opposite. As oil prices skyrocket, the pressure on Trump to end Israel's war will be immense. He will have no choice but to declare his usual "self-styled" victory.

Will Iran accept this? I doubt it, they will push for him to meet their terms, and the world will pressure him to capitulate.

7 minutes ago, EastBayRay said:

If you’re trying to pretend you’re not supporting Iran against Trump you’re not doing a very good job

Amazing how lefties support anyone against their own country and people

Sad actually

I am amazed that so many people only see the world in black and white. Like, if you think "this" is bad, then you surely think "that" is good. In this forum, we especially see it quite a lot from the right wing people. Why can't you understand that two things can be bad at the same time, be it Trump and Iran or Israel and Hamas?

In this thread, the OP clearly starts with a paragraph that says he does not like Iran winning:

"It certainly doesn't please me to realize this dark reality."

Yet, because he believes that Iran is winning, you immediately conclude that he must be against the USA.

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Nobody is saying the Iranian regime is good or not a promoter of terrorism.

That's not the point.

Once again, you nailed one of the key points.

This fiasco (some might say fandango) is NOT about ideology.

31 minutes ago, EastBayRay said:

If you’re trying to pretend you’re not supporting Iran against Trump you’re not doing a very good job

Amazing how lefties support anyone against their own country and people

Sad actually

The same argument was used against those who were opposed to the Iraq War. And of course it was used against those who opposed the Vietnam War too.

36 minutes ago, EastBayRay said:

If you’re trying to pretend you’re not supporting Iran against Trump you’re not doing a very good job

Amazing how lefties support anyone against their own country and people

Sad actually

Spot on, and they want USA to fail miserably at everything, just so they can blame Trump.

That's a lot a hate.

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1 minute ago, KhunLA said:

just so they can blame Trump.

And then to say "I told you so! I was right about Trump all along!!"

When a person's ego becomes more important than national policy, that's pretty scary.

30 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Quite the opposite. As oil prices skyrocket, the pressure on Trump to end Israel's war will be immense. He will have no choice but to declare his usual "self-styled" victory.

Will Iran accept this? I doubt it, they will push for him to meet their terms, and the world will pressure him to capitulate.


86 a barrel is FAR from skyrocketing. 😂

5 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Spot on, and they want USA to fail miserably at everything, just so they can blame Trump.

That's a lot a hate.


Its in the hope that we'll become as miserable as them.

1 minute ago, Slowhand225 said:


86 a barrel is FAR from skyrocketing. 😂

Yes we know you are slow. Price as of 12 March 9:21 Thai time

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3 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

Yes we know you are slow. Price as of 12 March 9:21 Thai time

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wow you got me. You should be so proud.
Its was 86 when I looked.

Until it gets over 100 and stays, its not that big of a deal. Does it suck ? Sure but, its not the end of the world by any stretch.

2 minutes ago, Slowhand225 said:


wow you got me. You should be so proud.
Its was 86 when I looked.

Until it gets over 100 and stays, its not that big of a deal. Does it suck ? Sure but, its not the end of the world by any stretch.

How about 200?

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Nobody is saying the Iranian regime is good or not a promoter of terrorism.

That's not the point.

What Trump is doing is not the way to deal with them and if you actually followed the news. you would know it is BACKFIRING badly.

The question is: What IS the way to deal with them? Troops on the ground [with huge casualties]? An nth UNSC resolution? Diplomatic negotiations (with whom? cf Ukraine/Russia)

People seem to forget there were hundreds of thousands of Iranian citizens out on the streets in January calling for the fall of the mullahs. And being shot by the IRGC.

People also don't like Netanyahu (with fairly good reason) but are apt to ignore the existential threat that the mullahs & their weapons represent for Israel.

Action in January - of any useful kind - was probably not available because the chess pieces hadn't been assembled. Now that action is taken and not just by Israel & Usofa (eg Kurds & Azeris getting ready to move), people cry Oh boohoo boohoo stop the slaughter!

So far the action has severely damaged the Iranian regime's military capabilities. Their missiles & drones are still a problem but diminishing daily.

What else was anyone to do, usefully?

20 minutes ago, Slowhand225 said:
20 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

Yes we know you are slow. Price as of 12 March 9:21 Thai time

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wow you got me. You should be so proud.
Its was 86 when I looked.

So maybe,not sure though, that now you understand the term Skyrocketing.

See how fast it goes? I presume it will be over your 100$ target within today.

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1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

When a person's ego becomes more important than national policy, that's pretty scary.

Which is exactly the issue, or better one of the issues, with trump.

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5 hours ago, Jingthing said:

It certainly doesn't please me to realize this dark reality.

This is a war that Trump (snookered by Israel) should have never started in the first place.

However, this war more than anything else clearly signals to me that the American empire is declining rapidly. Maybe call it a suicide.

This topic is being started to discuss and track the events related to Iran winning this war against the USA.

I call it a war against the USA rather than a war against the USA and Israel because it would be an entirely different thing or even a big nothing if Trump hadn't gone for it bigly.

I guarantee Iran will want, 1. a treaty that ends all possibility of future attacks by the US and Israel, 2. a complete lifting of sanctions, 3. an acknowledgement that their nuclear program can continue unabated with a 20% enrichment cap like all the other signatories of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Agreement, and 4) reparation for the damage done during the US attacks. Possibly 5) that Israel nuclear program is capped that same as Iran's with the IAEA monitoring and the destruction of all of their nuclear weapons.

However - Reality! That ain't gonna happen anytime soon, so this war will slog on for a long time. Did you hedge with oil stocks?

Now the more rapacious AN members will no doubt be cheering for Israel (and/or the US) dropping nukes on Iran. That will almost guarantee that Iran will finish the enrichment of the 60% Uranium Hexafloride in underground processing facilities to produce fissile Uranium and finish their bombs that they had chosen up to this point not to create. The elder Khamenei had a fatwa (religious order) NOT to build a bomb, but in their stupidity Trump decided to murder him along with his son's daughter and wife. Now his son is the Supreme Leader, and I doubt that fatwa will hold. Drop nukes on Iran and yeah, a few million Iranians will be genocided, but it will then takes less than two weeks for Iran to create nukes (if the assassination of Ali Khamenei has already become the catayst for them to finish producing bombs already) - then Israel will be physically erased from the map.

Personally, I hope that sanity reins. But who knows. We live in a world ruled by insane megalomaniacs. These people don't listen to we "common people." They only do what is in their own ****ed-up interests. And the global village suffers.

I try not to look at politics as it is like watching sausage being made but...... I would say Netanyahu & Trump is a match made in heaven. Netanyahu realizes his time is ending & the US is not going to keep Israel as a welfare recipient much longer. Bibi See's in Trump his last chance at achieving his goals because Trump is that stupid.

Sadly the world now see's more clearly just what Israel & Trump are & they are distancing themselves appropriately from these war mongers.

Ask yourself if a country came to yours & killed your leader then also as a side bar killed 150+ school kids what would you be willing to do?

The story that has raged for 20+ years that Iran is close to having a nuke is old & tired. Unlike Israel & the US they never believed in having one as it was against their belief to wipe out mankind...but lets face it they would have been better off with one like N Korea & others it is a talking stick of sorts protecting them from this kind of unprovoked attacks.

I hope one day Netanyahu & Trump stand trial for the war crimes they have commited.

But what I hate most is how embarrassed I am to me a American these days. I hate rooting for the so called enemy against my own country. But I do

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